Curtains Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, SchtivePesley said: As always - a balanced answer and bonus points for not mentioning Corbyn, Labour or Remoaners. Other posters take note - it is possible Remoaners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Curtains said: So what’s your car then. Do keep up. I don't own a car, I haven't since 2012 and have no intention of doing so ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, SchtivePesley said: Do keep up. I don't own a car, I haven't since 2012 and have no intention of doing so ever again. Why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: Why Because I don't need one. I have a bicycle, legs, a bus timetable, the trainline app and the number of a taxi firm for emergencies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: Why Why not? See...I can join in the Curtains "max 5 words analysis to be complied with at all times" rule...... Oh poo.........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Because I don't need one. I have a bicycle, legs, a bus timetable, the trainline app and the number of a taxi firm for emergencies Keeping the economy ticking over mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 6 hours ago, Angry Ram said: Oi Oi, the accounts department are awake everyone.. Welcome back to the thread. ? Ey up Angry.... Actuary not accountant mate......and I'm going to make it my mission to prove Brexit using only algebra and probability theory..... @Millenniumram will check my workings ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Why not? See...I can join in the Curtains "max 5 words analysis to be complied with at all times" rule...... Oh poo.........? Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 12 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Why not? See...I can join in the Curtains "max 5 words analysis to be complied with at all times" rule...... Oh poo.........? How’s Southampton these days. Remoaners or leavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: Lol Only joshing mate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Only joshing mate ? One word is often enough. Might have to go to Europe on a cruise soon mate from your neck of the woods and stop over near Rose Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Curtains said: How’s Southampton these days. Remoaners or leavers. Our council area Test Valley was spot on the national average. 48.1% remain 51.9% leave.... Southampton was more leave, Winchester (we are midway between) was remain by 17%.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Our council area Test Valley was spot on the national average. 48.1% remain 51.9% leave.... Southampton was more leave, Winchester (we are midway between) was remain by 17%.) How about the result in the election for Southampton and Winchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 3 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Given that most of the time during these negotiations we had May's team around the table who proved to be completely incompetent I wouldn't imagine we are anywhere close to the kind of overall deal we need. What you are overlooking is that we already trade with the EU, we already have a deal in place. Surely its tweaks to the arrangements that are already in place rather than rip up and start again? 3 hours ago, GboroRam said: I can't see any improved deal than EU membership. But the great thing is, it's not my problem any more. It's Boris'. If he gets a good deal, great. If he doesn't - what will you say? It was a mistake to leave the EU. What is your timescale though? 3 hours ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Good point, GboroRam. The onus is now on the leavers to prove that they have what it takes to deliver. To any leavers on this forum, if it goes as badly as a lot of people suspect it may, will you admit you were wrong? I will gladly hold my hands up if everything goes swimmingly from here. What are we admitting to being wrong about? Is there a right and wrong answer to this vote? End of the day I will be answerable to my kids and nobody else. My vote was based on wanting a better future for them. 2 hours ago, A Ram for All Seasons said: Foreigners Yawn. Grow up. 59 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Genuine question - do you think our economy will automatically boom when we leave the EU, if the EU itself is struggling with growth? My gut feeling is that our economic destinies will be fatefully intertwined regardless of whether we are a member of the EU or not Opening ourselves up to other markets might not be such a bad idea after all then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Opening ourselves up to other markets might not be such a bad idea after all then? Maybe - but as Leave voters have been discounting any arguments against what might happen post-Brexit as rubbish - it's hard to know whatI think any more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 It also depends what opening up actually means. If for example it means food standards go down the pan in exchange for cheaper, less regulated crap from all over the world then I would hardly say it's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Maybe - but as Leave voters have been discounting any arguments against what might happen post-Brexit as rubbish - it's hard to know whatI think any more Just the Leave voters again I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 34 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: It was a mistake to leave the EU. What is your timescale though? It's your show. When can we expect to see the benefits coming through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Just the Leave voters again I see... No not at all - the opposite. I'm just trying to draw parallels between Remain voters saying "if we leave the EU then x,y & z bad things might happen" and being shot down because we can't base our decisions on what might happen and Leave voters saying "if we leave the EU then x,y & z good things might happen" Can't you see that this argument can't work both ways? It's much like your Diane Abbot guff - if you want Labour voters to admit that what she said was racist against white people because it's the same as what the likes of Farage/Yaxley-Lennon/Boris have said - then you're admitting that those guys are racist too. Your argument is paradoxical. They are either both racist or none of them are racist. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted December 17, 2019 Share Posted December 17, 2019 Any thoughts on this? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-bds-law-israel-boycott-divestment-sanctions-palestine-a9248801.html Planning to pass a law to ban councils from "imposing their own direct or indirect boycotts, disinvestment or sanctions campaigns against foreign countries" - which means councils can't enter into any contracts with people or companies that operate their own BDS rules Now I don't care which side of the Israel/Palestine argument you are on - the principle here is surely a violation of people's right to protest/freedom of expression? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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