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5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Dont blame him to be honest.

Been called into work for a complete waste of a day that even Stevie Wonder could see coming.

BJ has come back with a deal and that is what they should have been voting on, not more motions trying to sabotage Brexit.

The Speaker could have informed everyone what they would be voting on and saved alot of MPs wasting their Saturday!

Parliament need a reasonable amount of time to actually review the deal before voting on it. That's what the amendment was, it's not to sabotage brexit. Letwin was very clear on that.

This also removes the possibility that we can crash out with no deal.

If you want to point the finger at anyone for sabotaging brext try looking at May's government who spent two years messing about keeping parliament (with a slim majority after her disaster of an election) in the dark. We could have done all this 18 months ago but here we are.  

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2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Parliament need a reasonable amount of time to actually review the deal before voting on it. That's what the amendment was, it's not to sabotage brexit. Letwin was very clear on that.

This also removes the possibility that we can crash out with no deal.

If you want to point the finger at anyone for sabotaging brext try looking at May's government who spent two years messing about keeping parliament (with a slim majority after her disaster of an election) in the dark. We could have done all this 18 months ago but here we are.  

I stopped reading at 'crash out'.

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Just now, G STAR RAM said:

Why?

What does 'crash out' even mean?

Would you even be saying it if you hadnt heard people say it on the tv?

 

You know what I mean. Refusing to read beyond it is just juvenile.

No deal will have very real consequences both short and long term. You cant just ignore that fact. That's what it means.

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2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

You know what I mean. Refusing to read beyond it is just juvenile.

No deal will have very real consequences both short and long term. You cant just ignore that fact. That's what it means.

It's not really, just means I will be reading a view that isnt really yours but just you repeating what I hear Remain MPs saying on tv every day of the week.

Why cant we just get on with a 'clean break Brexit'.

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21 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Only as much of a muppet as the tory moaning to the BBC that today has ruined his birthday.

I take issue with your comparison of Tories to muppets.

There are a lot of differences ...

Muppets make you laugh.

As far as I can remember, the Muppet films all have a simple objective that is achieved by team work, using the differing skills and talents of others.

They advocate a world view of being kind to each other and tolerating differences. In their simple way they offer very basic role models for children.

 

Though right now Boris is probably sitting at the top of the stairs singing a little sad song to himself.?

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5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

It's not really, just means I will be reading a view that isnt really yours but just you repeating what I hear Remain MPs saying on tv every day of the week.

Why cant we just get on with a 'clean break Brexit'.

We could have had  a clean, orderly brexit had May's government not locked parliament out of the process for two years whilst negotiating a rubbish withdrawal agreement. I did say that in the comment you stopped reading half way through. 

We could have got all of this nonsense out of the way early in the process but May decided to erode her own majority and send plonkers like Raab to oversee the negotiations instead.

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7 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

We could have had  a clean, orderly brexit had May's government not locked parliament out of the process for two years whilst negotiating a rubbish withdrawal agreement. I did say that in the comment you stopped reading half way through. 

We could have got all of this nonsense out of the way early in the process but May decided to erode her own majority and send plonkers like Raab to oversee the negotiations instead.

Would not have mattered who was in charge of negotiations.

 

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1 minute ago, cstand said:

I see JRM and son needed a police escort tonight in London surrounded by a left wing loony hate mob.  I hope all of you on this forum who have contributed to this hatred are thoroughly ashamed.

Why should they be ashamed? Unless they are part of the loony hate mob?

Take responsibility for your own actions, not that of others.

I'm sure you didnt feel ashamed of yourself when Jo Cox was murdered?

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8 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Why should they be ashamed? Unless they are part of the loony hate mob?

Take responsibility for your own actions, not that of others.

I'm sure you didnt feel ashamed of yourself when Jo Cox was murdered?

There has been a hate campaign on this forum against JRM. There was not a hate campaign against Jo Cox.

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2 minutes ago, cstand said:

You brought up Jo  Cox not me

Hate campaign against JRM?

People on here express an opinion on him, as is their right. 

You express your opinion on Remainers, as is your right.

If you want people on here to feel ashamed when JRM gets attacked, then it's only right that you should feel ashamed when Remainer MPs get attacked.

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9 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Hate campaign against JRM?

People on here express an opinion on him, as is their right. 

You express your opinion on Remainers, as is your right.

If you want people on here to feel ashamed when JRM gets attacked, then it's only right that you should feel ashamed when Remainer MPs get attacked.

I never said he was attacked you have decided that

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4 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Yes, I apologise, you said he was surrounded by a mob.

Point still stands though.

My point is he was with his young son if want to criticise MPs fair enough but not when there are kids involved and I would be ashamed if a remain MP got the same treatment.

 

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