Bob The Badger Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I know how well we've done with him coming off the bench, but I'd take Cloughies approach of putting the 11 best footballers on the pitch every time - presuming that is you don't have two keepers in your top 11, that would, quite frankly, be silly no matter how you slice it. I don't see any reason why Vydra can't play with Jerome, and if Rowett does leave him out, then how stupid is he going to look if we go out and he left the divisions top scorer on the bench? Yes we're in form now, even though it's a ridiculously small sample size of games, but we were in form 6 months ago without Jerome in the starting line up and Vydra lighting it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Bob The Badger said: I know how well we've done with him coming off the bench, but I'd take Cloughies approach of putting the 11 best footballers on the pitch every time - presuming that is you don't have two keepers in your top 11, that would, quite frankly, be silly no matter how you slice it. I don't see any reason why Vydra can't play with Jerome, and if Rowett does leave him out, then how stupid is he going to look if we go out and he left the divisions top scorer on the bench? Yes we're in form now, even though it's a ridiculously small sample size of games, but we were in form 6 months ago without Jerome in the starting line up and Vydra lighting it up. My thoughts exactly ,I thought the same before Barnsley we got away with then . Barnsley were unbelievably bad might not be so lucky next time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 talking to my Fulham mates down here...the only fella they really fear is Vydra...cos they know he can skin them at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
North East Ram Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 No question. He’s got to start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 He has to start, he is the top goal scorer in the division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archied Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Needs to find a way to start wieman ,Lawrence ,vyds and camjam ,, take it too them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yes I hope we abandon the starting XI that brought us 7 points from the last 3 games after that awful run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, sage said: Yes I hope we abandon the starting XI that brought us 7 points from the last 3 games after that awful run. Although I understand what you are saying, Fulham will be completely different to any of the 3 previous games. Their confidence may be fragile and I think we really need to press them high and get at them. Time for Rowett to show us whether he has much in his locker tactically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 24 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Although I understand what you are saying, Fulham will be completely different to any of the 3 previous games. Their confidence may be fragile and I think we really need to press them high and get at them. Time for Rowett to show us whether he has much in his locker tactically. tbf if Olsson is out and we have to play 4231, his hand will be forced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I only care about the result to be honest. I want us to still realistically be in the tie after the first leg unlike last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peachmyster Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Yep agreed vydra has start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 Doubt Vydra will start. Fulham will mark him out all game otherwise. Different formation then bring him on as of late games have ran. Think he’ll start the second leg though depending how the first went. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, sage said: Yes I hope we abandon the starting XI that brought us 7 points from the last 3 games after that awful run. I’m with you, I hope so too. Much rather the team who came from behind against Cardiff ( when Vydra came on ) and the one that tore Barnsley apart ( when Vydra came on) . Rather than the static 2 left backs which started those games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob The Badger Posted May 10, 2018 Author Share Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, sage said: Yes I hope we abandon the starting XI that brought us 7 points from the last 3 games after that awful run. Villa played us off the park and could have won 4-1. Cardiff collapsed and were one chance away from going 2 up and winning the game. Barnsley have gone down and were awful. It makes no sense to just look at results. You have to look at how they were achieved. To make my case I will present the Billy Davies team that went up to the Premiership, as it was then. How many games did we scrape by? if you're old enough think of the Cox and Smith teams who went up. Both were dominant, even explosive at times. The team that BD took up was always likely to struggle. The team has recently done well and I for one am delighted, but to say you stick with it just because of the results of 3 games doesn't strike me as being very savvy. Play your best players, and then if you fail you at least know the players weren't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bob The Badger said: Villa played us off the park and could have won 4-1. Cardiff collapsed and were one chance away from going 2 up and winning the game. Barnsley have gone down and were awful. It makes no sense to just look at results. You have to look at how they were achieved. To make my case I will present the Billy Davies team that went up to the Premiership, as it was then. How many games did we scrape by? if you're old enough think of the Cox and Smith teams who went up. Both were dominant, even explosive at times. The team that BD took up was always likely to struggle. The team has recently done well and I for one am delighted, but to say you stick with it just because of the results of 3 games doesn't strike me as being very savvy. Play your best players, and then if you fail you at least know the players weren't good enough. Unfortunately I am old enough to remember Cox and Smith. I don't think our back 4 and DCM are good enough and mobile enough to not get exposed against a good team. I think they would double up on Forsyth all game. When Olsson went off against Boro, they ran riot down our left for 10 minutes,scoring once and hitting the woodwork twice. Whilst I rate Vydra higher than Lawrence and Weimann, you have to pick the best team, not the best 11 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete2 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Bob The Badger said: I know how well we've done with him coming off the bench, but I'd take Cloughies approach of putting the 11 best footballers on the pitch every time - presuming that is you don't have two keepers in your top 11, that would, quite frankly, be silly no matter how you slice it. I don't see any reason why Vydra can't play with Jerome, and if Rowett does leave him out, then how stupid is he going to look if we go out and he left the divisions top scorer on the bench? Yes we're in form now, even though it's a ridiculously small sample size of games, but we were in form 6 months ago without Jerome in the starting line up and Vydra lighting it up. Will Olson be fit? If not I can’t see how we could not start with vyds who came on for him v Barnsley. What other options are there? Pearce who started v villa.? Surely not for the home leg . Anya won’t be fit either will he? Must be vyds with Weimann as wing back or whatever you want to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 2 hours ago, 1967Ram said: I only care about the result to be honest. I want us to still realistically be in the tie after the first leg unlike last time. Yes agreed, we need to take a two goal advantage into the 2nd leg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, europia said: Yes agreed, we need to take a two goal advantage into the 2nd leg. Definitely preferable to a 3 goal disadvantage ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Ram Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 16 hours ago, sage said: tbf if Olsson is out and we have to play 4231, his hand will be forced Why do you say that? He could play back three of Keogh Davies Pearce and use Forsyth in the Olsson role Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Hathersage Ram said: Why do you say that? He could play back three of Keogh Davies Pearce and use Forsyth in the Olsson role I could see us playing that away but it would be too defensive at home. Also Pearce's lack of pace is really exposed in a back 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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