TommyPowell Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What facts? That fact that GR says one thing and does another? ? the fact quoted by your esteemed self regards to playing time i just wish this forum had the facility to ignore but still i like a good debate particularly one i have no danger of losing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, TommyPowel said: the fact quoted by your esteemed self regards to playing time i just wish this forum had the facility to ignore but still i like a good debate particularly one i have no danger of losing Lol. I don't imagine any of the squad believes what comes out of Rowetts mouth. I imagine Martin, Bryson, Butterfield, Nugent (?), Vydra, et al know which way the land lies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. I don't imagine any of the squad believes what comes out of Rowetts mouth. I imagine Martin, Bryson, Butterfield, Nugent (?), Vydra, et al know which way the land lies... by land lies should i read if they dont perform they dont play isnt that how all good manages manage even the dear departed NC and his father before him who also was a manager able to talk the talk when needed i think thats now 3 nil in my favour think i mioght send you out on loan to the trees board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admira Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 I voted no to all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 1 hour ago, TommyPowel said: the fact quoted by your esteemed self regards to playing time i just wish this forum had the facility to ignore but still i like a good debate particularly one i have no danger of losing This forum does have an ignore user feature, look in your user panel thingy bob. Youre welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boycie said: This forum does have an ignore user feature, look in your user panel thingy bob. Youre welcome. I don't hold out much hope, he can't find a full stop on a keyboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 30 minutes ago, reveldevil said: I don't hold out much hope, he can't find a full stop on a keyboard. No shift key either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Probably the stupidest poll ever. We can’t let players go who have lucrative contracts and have less talent than said contracts deserves. We would have sold them if anyone other than Derby would be stupid enough to buy them. The best case scenario is we loan them out for a decent % of their wage, thus losing less. I may rate a few of them (1 highly) but Gary doesn’t. If we are stuck with him for another season, as seems certain. All those players will be treading water until their contracts end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Bryson was my only keeper and that was borderline . Not sure GR would accomodate any of them so they may as well all go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPowell Posted May 2, 2018 Share Posted May 2, 2018 Sorry i mistakenly thought this was a football forum.I didnt realize it was some sort of A-level typing course.There was silly me thinking i wasnt doing too bad for a 77 year old Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 On 01/05/2018 at 15:20, Ambitious said: Based on how we currently play: Blackman, Bryson & Bennett. Martin doesn't/can't play that number 9 role, he doesn't run the channels and we very rarely (if ever) play the ball into the feet of the striker which is the only way you would get the best out of him. He's without question one of the most talented players I've ever seen at Derby, but he's also one of the most one dimensional players I've ever seen. period. Butterfield should probably join Clement at Reading and he'd be firing them in again. I never understood the abuse of Blackman, he's definitely no worse than Weimann. This. Well apart from period at the end of a sentence. No English person should ever do that. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Ram Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 21 hours ago, VulcanRam said: £2.5m? Bench warmer at Reading, hardly played for Derby this season, on loan previously. Maybe stretch to £3m if we can? I think we would be happy and fortunate to get upwards of £2m based on his performances and goals over the last 2 years or so, and yes there may be all sorts of reasons, but in the end I would be happy to accept £2m and more importantly remove him from our wages. Also I think we at Derby need him to leave the building, he HAS been a fantastic player for us (Under MAC) but for his and our progression he needs to go (on a permanent deal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Hathersage Ram said: I think we would be happy and fortunate to get upwards of £2m based on his performances and goals over the last 2 years or so, and yes there may be all sorts of reasons, but in the end I would be happy to accept £2m and more importantly remove him from our wages. Also I think we at Derby need him to leave the building, he HAS been a fantastic player for us (Under MAC) but for his and our progression he needs to go (on a permanent deal) When it comes to the point that we have to ship out, at a bargain basement price, a good player like Martin. It tells you all you need to know about Derby and nothing about the player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. I don't imagine any of the squad believes what comes out of Rowetts mouth. I imagine Martin, Bryson, Butterfield, Nugent (?), Vydra, et al know which way the land lies... Yeah, that's not true. Surely if this was the case they would have downed tools like we have seen under previous management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mr Giggles said: Yeah, that's not true. Surely if this was the case they would have downed tools like we have seen under previous management. What like after Christmas? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Gnarly Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: What like after Christmas? ? Not going to entertain this, we get in far too many arguments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCG Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 19 hours ago, Boycie said: This forum does have an ignore user feature, look in your user panel thingy bob. Youre welcome. Unfortunately, it's much-needed if you want to stay optimistic and not suicidal like some contributors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRainy Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 The only definite yes for me is Martin. He’s still the best striker on our books, and did what Vydra is being so highly praised for three seasons running, plus having more to his game. To say he doesn’t ‘fit the system’ is an indictment of the manager, not the player; anyone who cannot make use of his obvious talent should not be coaching Derby. Bryson, I was in two minds over, as he may be past his best, but I’d try to get another season out of him. Butterfield may have untapped potential, but he doesn’t want to be here, so goodbye. Bennett, I’ve never thought was good enough for this level. Blackman was a flop the first time around and I don’t see what would be different now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 4 hours ago, Lambchop said: The only definite yes for me is Martin. He’s still the best striker on our books, and did what Vydra is being so highly praised for three seasons running, plus having more to his game. To say he doesn’t ‘fit the system’ is an indictment of the manager, not the player; anyone who cannot make use of his obvious talent should not be coaching Derby. Bryson, I was in two minds over, as he may be past his best, but I’d try to get another season out of him. One has played a big part in his current team all but sealing automatic promotion. The other has failed to nail down in a place that could end up being relegated. At some point in time people are going to have to realise that there is a reason Martin has not being playing regularly in the last 2 seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hathersage Ram Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 7 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: When it comes to the point that we have to ship out, at a bargain basement price, a good player like Martin. It tells you all you need to know about Derby and nothing about the player. Actually it tells you more about your grasp on economics and his position of strength. He has a long contract on very high wages. Very few clubs in the championship would consider a high transfer fee and high wages. Based on his recent record. As can be seen by the long list wanting to buy (not) or loan (not many) him. I believe in reality. Not your personal pie in the sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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