MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 I hope we can sign Winnall up on a permanent. He has shown over the years that he scores goals wherever he goes. One of the best headers of a ball I've seen and yesterday proves he can create his own goals. He is the sort of player that whether you are playing Burton or Chelsea, put the ball in the right area he will score. Sign him up, spend the 11.5 million on him if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GB SPORTS Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 It was interesting yesterday. I always assumed that Winnall and Vydra were similar, but they seemed to compliment each other quite well. Maybe it's pace and skill when facing your defender something we haven't seen since Giles Barnes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Butterfield is a much better player. wednesday don't need winnall. They have better strikers in hooper and......the others. Jordan rhodes is a menace. Butterfield is the perfect foil for bannan. Very tidy player. Better than Ledley. Better than david jones. Wednesday definitely got the better deal. ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I hope we can sign Winnall up on a permanent. He has shown over the years that he scores goals wherever he goes. One of the best headers of a ball I've seen and yesterday proves he can create his own goals. He is the sort of player that whether you are playing Burton or Chelsea, put the ball in the right area he will score. Sign him up, spend the 11.5 million on him if needed. His goals per minutes on the pitch must be close to, if not the best in the championship. If he were to sign for £11.5 million, one would expect him to be starting most games, in my opinion. Not sure why, but theres no indication yet that GR is thinking along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 4 minutes ago, europia said: His goals per minutes on the pitch must be close to, if not the best in the championship. If he were to sign for £11.5 million, one would expect him to be starting most games, in my opinion. Not sure why, but theres no indication yet that GR is thinking along those lines. Of course he's not. One lucky strike and a header that the keeper should have saved? come on. he only lasted 6 months at wednesday. The best thing they could do would be to wrap up a permanent deal in early jan and get butterfield settled in properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 minute ago, RamNut said: Of course he's not. One lucky strike and a header that the keeper should have saved? come on. he only lasted 6 months at wednesday. The best thing they could do would be to wrap up a permanent deal in early jan and get butterfield settled in properly. Not sure if anyones mentioned it before, but sarcasm doesn't work that well in written form. Particularly on forums and social media. Just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
England Ram Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, europia said: Not sure if anyones mentioned it before, but sarcasm doesn't work that well in written form. Particularly on forums and social media. Just an observation. No, but another teams scouting department might take it the ‘right’ way;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, europia said: Not sure if anyones mentioned it before, but sarcasm doesn't work that well in written form. Particularly on forums and social media. Just an observation. totally agree. Have a like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted December 31, 2017 Author Share Posted December 31, 2017 Rowett has had Winall a couple of times, they both know each other, Winnall would have been playing if it wasn't for Nugent and Vydra playing so well. I expect Winnall would sign if a deal was in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G-Ram Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Winnall is a bully according to the Wednesday fans ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 About time that Derby County had a centre forward who took no prisoners and was afraid of no-one. We have been outmuscled for too many seasons.We need aggression to get automatic promotion.We need teams to fear us at all levels. If you want to try strong arm tactics then that we can provide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Presumably we are doing some sort of swap deal for Butters? but we have to keep Winnall, any other club he would be playing every match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 The only snags with your proposal Desert are, Winnall has been better for us than Butterfield has for them and more importantly the incoming manager might want Winnall as part of his squad and Butterfield nowhere near it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiddingsRam Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, europia said: Not sure if anyones mentioned it before, but sarcasm doesn't work that well in written form. Particularly on forums and social media. Just an observation. It's England we all love sarcasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
needles Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Does anyone know if there's a recall clause for Winnall, or a send back clause for Butterfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 Until the Ipswich game I considered Winnall to be the new Adam Le Fondre - undoubtedly a player who will get you goals but not a player with an all-round game good enough to be a regular starter. Like Le Fondre, always destined to be an impact player at Championship level despite many people looking at his goal ratio and asking why he isn't played more often. Rowett's analysis of his previous appearances for us seemed to align with this, until after the Ipswich game. His all-round performance was a step up from what we had seen from him (again, as noted by Rowett) and he showed that he MAY be able to play a bigger role than simply being an impact sub. Only time will tell - he may well still be another ALF. I have found it quite amusing when I've seen Sheff Weds fans claiming that if he was still there he'd be behind Jordan Rhodes - sometimes it appears that they're trying to convince themselves that Rhodes is the better player based purely on his transfer value. Rhodes is the archetypal 'massively overpriced, scores lots of goals but will be detrimental to your team's overall performance if you pin all your hopoes on him' striker. I wouldn't touch him with yours. 7 goals in 42 appearances for them. 500k for Winnall or £10m for Jordan Rhodes. Tough choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StringerBell Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 14 minutes ago, Coconut said: Rhodes is the archetypal 'massively overpriced, scores lots of goals but will be detrimental to your team's overall performance if you pin all your hopoes on him' striker. If that’s not an archetype I don’t know what is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve How Hard? Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, Coconut said: Only time will tell - he may well still be another ALF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 We can make an offer for Winnall in this window if we want. Could prove to be cheaper.There probably is a right to buy fee already set should all parties be in agreement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rambalin Posted December 31, 2017 Share Posted December 31, 2017 1 hour ago, needles said: Does anyone know if there's a recall clause for Winnall, or a send back clause for Butterfield? Recall clauses are no longer allowed from last season loans run from transfer window to transfer window or for full seasons. On a full season loan a player may return to his parent club only if all parties agree to terminate the loan deal in January has we found out with Chris Martin. Both Winnall and Butterfield are on season long loans so even if they wanted Winnall back Derby and the player would have to agree which is very unlikely.Has for Butterfield we are not likely to want to take him back even if Wednesday want to send him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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