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What if McClaren had never been sacked ?


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21 hours ago, Moist One said:

I believe that collapse which ended with us finishing 8th, having led the table 3 months earlier, showed McClaren who the poison in the dressing room was, and those poisonous players are what cost him his job, NOT Newcastle and all the peripherals. Yeah, he handled it a bit daftly by trying to be cool and bashful, but still, he didn't leave, he was sacked. Had he not been sacked, he would have invested in the side of the team that came up lacking when the going got tough, instead, those players had a reprieve, and then another, then another...

So who are the "poison" in the dressing room? Name names.

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On 19/09/2017 at 14:06, jimbobram said:

We saw what happened when Nigel got a bit of money to spend. He spent it all on Conor Sammon

Oh give it a rest mate

and what about all the others that he brought in for comparitivly bugger all,

martin on a free, barker for under 1m, shackell for what 700k rising to 1m bryson for what 700k??

so sammon was a bigger waste of cash than buttefield, johnson or anya ???

have a day off will u 

the truth is since clough and his much maligned brother simon derby county have been pathetic and lazy in the transfer market 

fact

 

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On 17/09/2017 at 18:07, Paul71 said:

Still don't get why people think Newcastle's interest was why he got sacked. 

He publically commited to Derby at the end of the season. 

The reason we didn't get promoted was a truly horrendous run of injuries to key players.

Got sacked as Mel assumed more control and think Mel had his sights on Clement.

Shouldn't have got sacked either time.

Exactly right, Paul.

It's because people can be stupid and stubborn, Paul...even people with the good taste and discernment, and otherwise sufficient good sense, to support Derby County.

For the umpteenth time, most managers offered a job like Newcastle would've left at Christmas. Steve, perhaps wrongly in hindsight, decided to stay until the end of the season, hoping to get us promoted. I personally suspect it was more likely than not that he would opt for Newcastle but I do accept that he hadn't made the final decision.

Newcastle were sufficiently keen on securing McClaren that they accepted those terms.

Our Board accepted that stance too. Brett Wilson has said, quite strongly, that the board were satisfied that McClaren would see out the season with Derby and decide then; Wilson maintained that McClaren had been publicly and privately consistent on his intention to stay but that he'd consider the 'lie of the land' then.

Wilson has also inferred that Mel Morris rejected the position the Board had agreed with McClaren and has said categorically that Mel was unhappy that McClaren was not as committed to his ambitions for Derby as he was.

Morris forced the issue and made his dissatisfaction known that McClaren had anything to consider at the end of the season

That was the source of the tension.

Frankly, I have always argued that expecting a paid employee to have the same passion and commitment to Derby as a Derby fan-owner is childish. It is the worst, most unrealistic attitude an owner can have and Mel's treatment of McClaren, Clement, Pearson and possibly Rush perfectly illustrates why.

We have seen between McClaren's stints how Mel and his acolytes talk to players and others with an apparent disregard for any consequent impact on unity and morale.

Then, injuries hit and Ibe was recalled fuelling the tension.

As for McClaren's 'apology' to the fans, he was forced to make the abject apology and, secondly, he expressed his regret at being "unable to finish the job he'd started a second time" and subtly pointed out the lack of ambiguity the second time around over his level of shared responsibility.

As you said Paul, it is incredible that so many choose to forget that McClaren did decide to stay at Derby before being sacked.

Those who suggest that it was to maximise his payout ignore how risky such a manoeuvre would have been had Mel called his bluff.

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I think we'd have got promoted. Whether we'd have stayed up is another matter but ti would have been interesting to say the least to see what Steve could have done in the transfer market. As it is, we might be seeing him back at Derby sooner than expected though not the way some of us might have hoped....

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/odds-slashed-steve-mcclaren-becoming-13656173

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2 hours ago, 86 points said:

As it is, we might be seeing him back at Derby sooner than expected though not the way some of us might have hoped....

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/odds-slashed-steve-mcclaren-becoming-13656173

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Only Aitor Karanka (2/1) and Nigel Pearson (11/4) are available at shorter prices than McClaren with SkyBet.

PLEASE have our other ex-manager, pleeeze!

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