oldtimeram Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Well after all the comings and goings what do folk think? Are we in a stronger position to challenge for a play off place? I think not, but then again I tend to be a glass half empty sort of guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Igorwasking Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Yes - we now have a squad capable of playing 4231 - so up to Gary now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think what we have are better players to play how Rowett wants us to play which is the main thing. Round pegs in round holes! Also a bit of a fresher look to the squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretsquirrel Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Think we are probably mid table hard workers-Still need to get players out then next phase of rebuilding .As someone said it will take 3 windows to turn around the staleness.Just one thought though how will certain players react now GR has sort of shown his hand and they know they would have gone if a deal could have been done? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimeram Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 Good points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1967Ram Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I don't know TBH. I'm hoping we will be stronger and more athletic and that this will suit how Rowett wants to play. I also hope that we are going to be flexible as regards formations. Maybe 4231 will be our preferred formation but we need to be positive and change our formation when needed IMO if we are going to be successful. I'm hoping the new players will 'hit the ground running' and some of our others will get their mojo back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamsFan10 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I'm not sure, still think we're looking at 10-6th places, maybe sneaking playoffs. Think the defence has improved a lot but the midfield and attack seem to have got worse. Having said that, we're yet to see what Lawrence is going to be like (maybe we should bloody start him). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroyDyer Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 More efficient for how GR wants to play. Not better in terms of football imo. The Derby way, whatever that was, is dead. Will be hard to beat, compact, hard working, but probably ugly. Top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, TroyDyer said: Will be hard to beat, compact, hard working, but probably ugly. Won't catch me complaining as that's the kinda women I go for* *I do not beat women......they beat me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramma Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandalf's shin pads Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I think that old chestnut 'not worse just different' probably applies here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sexydadbod Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 More equipped than last season? Without a doubt but we are still missing that little bit of something on the right hand side, especially if Russell continues to have brain farts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Talking to a mate, I broke it down like this: If we eventually go Carson Wisdom Keogh Davies Forsyth Huddlestone Johnson Russell Vydra Lawrence Winnall Compared to Carson Christie Keogh Pearce Forsyth Butterfield Johnson Ince Vydra Russell Nugent Then Wisdom and Huddlestone are improvements, Davies hasn't been better or worse, Winnall should be an upgrade and time will tell on Lawrence V Ince. Butterfield, Bryson, Blackman and Camara won't be missed and Hughes would have been an expensive benchwarmer which Kieftenbeld can do for £7.5m and £25k per week less. Martin is back, Vydra is better under Rowett and Russell is better on the right so on paper we've improved. Might not be the dream team we all hoped for up front after Ince and Hughes left, but creativity levels have not changed as much as some think, the more negative formation just doesn't allow as much expression. It's 6 in and as many out so that will freshen us up and hopefully reduce the number of square pegs in round holes. Nothing yet to tell me otherwise so will trust in Rowett's vision to get us out of here. If there is one complaint though, and its through no fault of our own this window it is how strong Boro, Wolves, Fulham, Villa and others look by comparison. On top of which Hull, Birmingham, Leeds and others have mixed it up and could do well. I think maybe we just just need to be thankful we're not Brentford losing 3 key players in 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITSD Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I look at the team and I think they're hardworking, pragmatic etc. and they might do OK. It doesn't excite me at all however, and I see no long-term vision with this team either. Definitely worse off than a couple of months ago in my view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bristolram Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 No idea, don't think we're any better, lost a bit of flair but probably more consistent players to suit GR's system, gutted to see bryson go. Just find the whole swapping of players between play off rivals bizarre. Would've been a great window if we got another winger, but guess that depended on outgoings. Think this window really showed how bad we've over paid and over bought in the last few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomBustler1884 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Carson Mitchell Wisdom Baird Keogh Pearce Davies Shackell Forsyth Olsson Huddlestone Thorne Kieftenbeld Johnson Lawrence Anya Russell Weimann Vydra Nugent Martin Winnall Then Lowe, Hanson, Bennett, Bent. I would argue we needed to move out two of Anya/Russell/Weimann and replace with 1 starter. Then could have afforded to lose Shackell, Olsson and a striker, but easier said than done. I don't think Butterfield and Bryson suit this formation and looking at the list above, we now have 2 players suited to each position. Could we have better players for each, particularly out wide, yes, but it will take time. Ince would have fitted in to this, Hughes potentially not, and Christie was too much of a liability defensively. We have all gone on about giving Rowett time to complete squad turnover and shape a team rather than a collection of individuals. I think he is doing that. We might not be playoff contenders this year, but we don't have a divine right to be. Regardless, it will be interesting to see if he can apply his ethos on to this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lrm14 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 We've lost a lot of flair but I think we've made leaps and bounds in terms of building a team. It's refreshing to see is moving in a clear direction for once. I'm surprisingly optimistic, although I'm not really expectant. Time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cook1988 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 NOOOOO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 8 minutes ago, TomBustler1884 said: Carson Mitchell Wisdom Baird Keogh Pearce Davies Shackell Forsyth Olsson Huddlestone Thorne Kieftenbeld Johnson Lawrence Anya Russell Weimann Vydra Nugent Martin Winnall If he can get them playing right - That is still one HELL of a squad... There's not we could do to improves that back 5 in this league - Whichever combination of players you put in Lawrence and Vydra both have a touch of class - Russell and Weimann are very capable on their day too Vydra, Martin, Nugent - All very capable goalscorers at this level That's a top 6 squad for me - But then we've had one of those for 3/4 seasons now - Big question is - Can we get the style of play which works for them all and allows us to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 I have always said we have a top six squad and I still believe that but central midfield was a big issue and how we handle that will be key, I think we could score a lot of goals from the forwards and wide players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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