Kernow Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 The worst part is the reason that he didn't sign. Incredibly harsh if all parties had signed the documents but because it was a different part of the paper, it doesn't count. Didn't Messi sign his first Barcelona contract on a bit of napkin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 No big deal. We move on. He wasn't the new Messi now was he, and we have Georgey boy in that spot don't we? Think winnall and Lawrence are more interesting anyhoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Dunno how the club can be blamed if the player signed the wrong form, it is the player and his agents fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon the ram 2009 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 12 minutes ago, CumbrianRam said: Dunno how the club can be blamed if the player signed the wrong form, it is the player and his agents fault We're talking about footballers with pens, surely the club would have someone to dot the I's and cross the t's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rample Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 So how come the deal is off and he's returned to Brum. Expected he'd just spend a few months in the under 23s. Not too much different to signing a player in June and having a preseason, though if we do go back in I can see Birmingham upping the fee to offset wages. Not going to go down well as he'll be 6 months from his contract expiring and we'll be expecting to pay less. We'll probably decide to leave it until he's on a free or conveniently forget. Have to feel for the player a bit, but can see him becoming a popular excuse now. "If we had a Kieftenbeld type player..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Oh well, time for Thorne to stay fit or Jamie Hanson/Max Bird to step up which is what they have spoken about before, when the squad is smaller the youngsters have a better opportunity of getting their chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 49 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: OMG Really? Bored of this mud slinging now. Why should someones head roll? If as it is stated that the guy signed the wrong part of the document then he only has himself to blame. He was not at Derby at the time and it was last minute. Mistakes happen. I am sure we are not the only team to fall foul at the last minute. As far as I am concerned the FA should cut some slack in situations like this. Did the guy sign? yes the fact it was the wrong part of the document should just be semantics. If he hadn't signed at all or after the deadline then ok. As for a shortage in midfield, we can still loan someone short term who is out of contract, might not be ideal but would eleviate some of the pain. Loan window closes with the transfer window these days, so we can't loan in any replacements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 So when it happened to fester he can still play for them after Jan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Question: theoretically, could the player buy out the rest of his contract and join the club on a free transfer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DenmarkRam Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Where is the laughing monkey? ??? Sorry maybe to early ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG400 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 15 minutes ago, Rample said: So how come the deal is off and he's returned to Brum. Expected he'd just spend a few months in the under 23s. Not too much different to signing a player in June and having a preseason, though if we do go back in I can see Birmingham upping the fee to offset wages. Not going to go down well as he'll be 6 months from his contract expiring and we'll be expecting to pay less. We'll probably decide to leave it until he's on a free or conveniently forget. Have to feel for the player a bit, but can see him becoming a popular excuse now. "If we had a Kieftenbeld type player..." I suspect much like a loan deal we have agreed to buy in jan and already agreed a price , whether we need him or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Interesting point....... could pay out his contract for the same fee we agreed with Birmingham & be "released by mutual consent", become a free agent & get a signing on fee from us to compensate him for buying out his contract ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 4 minutes ago, Donnyram said: Interesting point....... could pay out his contract for the same fee we agreed with Birmingham & be "released by mutual consent", become a free agent & get a signing on fee from us to compensate him for buying out his contract ? I was wondering if this was a loop hole that could be exploited? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperDerbySuperRams Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 5 minutes ago, Donnyram said: Interesting point....... could pay out his contract for the same fee we agreed with Birmingham & be "released by mutual consent", become a free agent & get a signing on fee from us to compensate him for buying out his contract ? Has to have been a free agent inside the transfer window to be eligible to sign as a free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 Ah 3 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Has to have been a free agent inside the transfer window to be eligible to sign as a free agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
desirelines Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 2 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Has to have been a free agent inside the transfer window to be eligible to sign as a free agent Nooooooooo! I was holding onto that faint dream of a resolution. Oh well. Back to Johnson and Huddlestone as a central two. Not awful, but not ideal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 3 minutes ago, SuperDerbySuperRams said: Has to have been a free agent inside the transfer window to be eligible to sign as a free agent Okay, thought there might have been some rules to prevent that situation! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 1 hour ago, Sparkle said: He really didn't actually sign! Someone should have put a big red X on the faxed document It's like one of those legal documents you draft, so only Coco the clown could c*** it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leon the ram 2009 Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 35 minutes ago, Zag zig said: Someone should have put a big red X on the faxed document It's like one of those legal documents you draft, so only Coco the clown could c*** it up. Or a footballer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted September 7, 2017 Share Posted September 7, 2017 He was s**** anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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