Stripperg-ram Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Come on. Lets square things up here a bit. Fairs fair. When he first came, there was barely anyone who said anything good about him. And that was probably because he was useless. (although we did have him playing in more positions than's in the karma sutra!) But props where props is due, he's been really good of late. Strong in the tackle, along with Pearce has made our back 4 much stronger, and yes 'he's not as good as Christie going forward', but he's currently making the full back position his own. So I just wanted to say, Well done Chris, it's not easy having a season of poor games and cameos and then to come back and play well and consistently. Fair dooz!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackNwhites Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Looks tired dunt he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Challenge and ball in for Russell deserved a goal, so so close. For an old man who's legs have gone still gets himself up and down that right side. Not knocking Christie but he can be massively frustrating at times trying to turn one too many defenders inside out or running straight into them, no frills Baird just gets the ball in the box. A player playing well after a run of games in his natural position, who would have thought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenBr Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 He is a much better defender than Christie and he actually puts some pretty good passes together every now and again. Baird might struggle with pacy opponents, but in my eyes he has earned his place in the starting 11 over "run into a blind alley and don't bother trying to tackle anyone" Christie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalsheep02 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I don't completely buy the 'not as good as Christie going forward'. Granted, you don't see Baird rampaging down the wing a la Cyrus but if Baird crosses the ball it is normally a good ball into a dangerous area. With Cyrus it is often 5 feet above everyone's heads. If it was a question of effectiveness going forward then I think Baird edges it. I was very worried when Cyrus went off at Wolves but Chris Baird has been magnificent, particularly once he got 3 /4 games under his belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donnyram Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Baird was excellent again last night - he uses his know how & experience in defending, is rarely panicked into mistakes, has shown he can make good judgement on when to get forward and often delivers threatening balls into the box. He's got the shirt at the moment and Cyrus may have to be patient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Well worth his place. Let's face it, he's been a model pro given how much he was messed around over "skippergate". Doesn't waste many balls into the box. I wonder whether he plays within himself sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Got this one totally wrong...I hang my head in shame... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 2 hours ago, Donnyram said: Baird was excellent again last night - he uses his know how & experience in defending, is rarely panicked into mistakes, has shown he can make good judgement on when to get forward and often delivers threatening balls into the box. He's got the shirt at the moment and Cyrus may have to be patient. Could there be a role for Christie further up the pitch? I like his energy and pace.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I don't think think he's ever been useless. It seems he played in a game where the whole team was poor and then crowd was getting on the team's back - he bit back, and with Derby fans being proper mardy creatures when they want to be, that was him done as far as many were concerned. He looks more comfortable than he used to, but I don't see this night-and-day difference between how he played when he first started and now. I think it's just taken a run in the side for fans to notice what he's good at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmic Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Was he really "useless" when he first arrived, or was it typical Derby fan mob mentality needing someone to take their frustrations out on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 I think I must have missed the part where he's been rubbish because for me he has just always been a not particularly exciting Steady Eddie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Completely irrelevant but Brede Haangeland rated him in the laziest 11 players, in training, that he has played with. Was excellent last night. Nicking the ball off Gray and putting in a near perfect cross was a moment of brilliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeedsCityRam Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 There won't be much debate that he's a better defender than Christie..mainly because he is positionally much more disciplined & savvy (better in the air too). Christie has the physical advantage over him in terms of strength & speed but defending is as much a mental/tactical art as a physical endeavour. What does constantly surprise me though is the quality of Baird's delivery in the final 3rd...its superb (rarely delayed & whipped in with pace) & has been over a number of games. Christie offers more dynamism & energy up the right flank but moves do tend to break down because he always looks to beat a man, which allows a defence to regroup. It also dilutes Ince's impact, who has to be mindful of cover when Christie gets forward. No coincidence in my eyes that Ince's recent fantastic form has been with a more defensively inclined RB. Be interesting to see who McClaren goes with once Christie returns from injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 56 minutes ago, cosmic said: Was he really "useless" when he first arrived, or was it typical Derby fan mob mentality needing someone to take their frustrations out on? No, he was just scapegoated after his first game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyram1983 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 Great game from Baird. Hardly ever seen him put a foot wrong. Lots of tackles, headers etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Completely irrelevant but Brede Haangeland rated him in the laziest 11 players, in training, that he has played with. Was excellent last night. Nicking the ball off Gray and putting in a near perfect cross was a moment of brilliance. Wilf Zaha has also come out and called him a liar for the things he has said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 There was a poll how successful signing he would be...Would be interesting to see the results now. I rated him as defensive midfielder for N.Ireland, didn't know how good he is as a RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 He looks to support Ince and knows how and when to pass, knows when to get close to him and when to hang back. He very rarely looks to overlap though, he's not got that in his legs. The total opposite of Christie, who more often than not simply gets in Ince's way whilst he pretends to be a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doodle Posted January 28, 2017 Share Posted January 28, 2017 54 minutes ago, Dimmu said: There was a poll how successful signing he would be...Would be interesting to see the results now. I rated him as defensive midfielder for N.Ireland, didn't know how good he is as a RB. Think b4 always rated him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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