Day Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Just going to leave this here. Aston Villa Squad Goalkeepers: Steer, Bunn, Johnstone Defenders: Baker, Richards, Elphick, Chester, Hutton, Amavi, De Laet, Bree Midfielders: Lansbury, Bacuna, Tshibola, Westwood, Green, Gardner, Jedinak, Adomah, Lyden, Grealish Forwards: Ayew, Agbonlahor, Kozak, Kodija, McCormack Total Players: 26 Derby Squad Goalkeepers: Carson, Mitchell, Roos Defenders: Christie, Forsyth, Shackell, Keogh, Baird, Pearce, Lowe, Hanson, Olsson Midfielders: Bryson, Anya, Ince, Johnson, De Sart, Butterfield, Hughes, Thorne Forwards: Russell, Bent, Camara, Blackman, Vydra, Nugent Total Players: 26 (Squads taken from the official sites of both clubs, players which are out on loan are not included) Transfers (Using Transfermarkt.com for fees, this may not be accurate as many are undisclosed, as fans we're not privy to this kind of information.) 15/16 - Derby spent £28.95m, received £0m. Net Spend £28.95m. 16/17 Aston Villa spent £52.36m, received £29.07m. Net spend of £23.29m *Carson, Bree and Adomah's fee's were all listed as ? with no fee given so are not included in the above numbers. Parachute Payments In season one, 2016-17, Villa would get £40 million In season two, 2017-18, Villa would get £33 million In season three, 2018-19, Villa would get £14 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 On a slight side note, if a club goes straight back up to the prem doesn't the remaining 2 para payments get split up between the league clubs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 It is interesting in macro/round pound economic terms and illustrates what faces champ teams. Our turnover (20 odd million) is roughly equivelant to our wage bill, On top of that there is another 10 million in costs needed to keep the club running, buy the odd player and invest in infrastructure. Luckily for us Uncle Mel seems happy to spend 10 million a year on his hobby. One thing for sure an average 30 million a year "free" cash makes a huge difference to the arithmetic. I suggest that DCFC is a well run club that pays competitive wages, isn't servicing a big debt, is commercially aware and has excellent support. In a sense we could be considered a model exemplar of a club at our level. The. Marry that to the fact that club generated income can barely cover the wage bill tells me something is very wrong in the game as a whole. Just scratching my head about the weirdness of it all. You have to feel that owning a championship club is like playing slot machines. Keep putting the money in and pray the wheels all line up one day and you end up with a PL Jackpot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 26/25 now Hanson as gone out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, jono said: It is interesting in macro/round pound economic terms and illustrates what faces champ teams. Our turnover (20 odd million) is roughly equivelant to our wage bill, On top of that there is another 10 million in costs needed to keep the club running, buy the odd player and invest in infrastructure. Luckily for us Uncle Mel seems happy to spend 10 million a year on his hobby. One thing for sure an average 30 million a year "free" cash makes a huge difference to the arithmetic. I suggest that DCFC is a well run club that pays competitive wages, isn't servicing a big debt, is commercially aware and has excellent support. In a sense we could be considered a model exemplar of a club at our level. The. Marry that to the fact that club generated income can barely cover the wage bill tells me something is very wrong in the game as a whole. Just scratching my head about the weirdness of it all. You have to feel that owning a championship club is like playing slot machines. Keep putting the money in and pray the wheels all line up one day and you end up with a PL Jackpot. Oooooh hark at you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, David said: 26/25 now Hanson as gone out on loan. 27/25 - Villa have signed Bjarnason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Not helping are they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Probably saw your post and it forced them to take action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 My unspoken point still kinda stands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 we have two who are long-term dead too. but still, it's what most teams have to go through when they go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 It's the wages each team pays out I'd be interested to see. Within the space of about a week they'll have brought in 3 centre mids (Lansbury, Hourihane and Bjarnason) who are on 40k, 30k and 30k (according to reports), yet their most common formations utilise just two central midfielders. And then they've still got Jedinak, Westwood, Gardner and Tshibola who you'd assume are on rather large wages too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted January 25, 2017 Author Share Posted January 25, 2017 Their wage bill will be up there with Newcastle which is expected from what were established Premier League sides. Can't expect them to suddenly slash it inline with the rest of the Championship. Find it more interesting that some Derby fans are wanting more signings this window whilst complaining at the size of Villa's squad which was the same size as ours when I posted this earlier. Short memories with what we did last summer, other club fans knocking us yet very few of our own raising concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Ramarena said: Oooooh hark at you! I can't help myself. I was born like that. I blame my parents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 I get the obvious points about our spending last summer, but we wouldn't have spent reportedly 10 million if Bryson and Hughes hadn't both gone down with long term injuries on the first day of the season. I think if that had happened with a manager more experienced than Clement and a more canny recruitment team, we wouldn't have splashed that much cash, but you should bare in mind we were in a tricky situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, Leicester Ram said: I get the obvious points about our spending last summer, but we wouldn't have spent reportedly 10 million if Bryson and Hughes hadn't both gone down with long term injuries on the first day of the season. I think if that had happened with a manager more experienced than Clement and a more canny recruitment team, we wouldn't have splashed that much cash, but you should bare in mind we were in a tricky situation. Didn't we also get a significant insurance windfall after they got injured that'd have an effect on the net figure ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 18 minutes ago, brady1993 said: Didn't we also get a significant insurance windfall after they got injured that'd have an effect on the net figure ? Good point Brady I hadn't thought about that. I hate to think what the premiums are though ! .. You are insuring the wages (or part of them I guess ) so a 20k week player is a million if it's a season long cruciate .. Odds of that happening according to a risk assessor / underwriter who needs a profit. big money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicester Ram Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 1 hour ago, brady1993 said: Didn't we also get a significant insurance windfall after they got injured that'd have an effect on the net figure ? From what I understand, that just covered Bryson and Hughes' wages, not the transfer fees and wages of Butterfield and Johnson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Can't believe we sold Hendrick for £0. Bloody Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Leicester Ram said: I get the obvious points about our spending last summer, but we wouldn't have spent reportedly 10 million if Bryson and Hughes hadn't both gone down with long term injuries on the first day of the season. I think if that had happened with a manager more experienced than Clement and a more canny recruitment team, we wouldn't have splashed that much cash, but you should bare in mind we were in a tricky situation. We were after Butters before they got injured Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted January 25, 2017 Share Posted January 25, 2017 Despite all that expenditure last year, we were still within FFP when the accounts were submitted recently and this season we're in surplus, transfer fee wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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