Curtains Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Mandatory . The players can't adapt IMO to any other system This forum won't allow anything else. I am being facetious lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I am waiting for the press conference with the returning McLaren and him to re-enact the scene from Mike Bassett. "Derby County will play four, three f***ing three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 I don't think it's that the players can't adapt to a different formation, just not to another style of play. I for one think we should move to a more dynamic 4231 to allow more players on the counter but that's just me. Anyone could be in charge come Saturday haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 "if you don't attack then you'll get the sack, it's the Derby way" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Usually players come and go but here it's the managers come and go, need an overhaul of the squad and get rid of players who fail to adapt to different methods, how else is the new manager going to succeed with this group of failures?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Or just don't play 422----------1------1. And ask Bryson (a reliable passer but very short ranged and plays the way he's facing) to play on top of CB's. Don't play ball playing midfielders in wide areas when all your service to them is hoofing into empty pitch. Don't then play the wide players in the middle. Don't play like you've got a target man when you haven't. If you have 3 reliable possession players, maybe introduce them to the opponents half to create pressure? If you have a striker that plays with minimal touches and draws defenders out... maybe use the space beyond him rather than wish him luck and leave the team camped Don't ask your full back to hit crosses from deep when you have no aerial threat. No, you don't have to play 433. Just play a system that plays to players strengths and they can get used to so everything is done on instinct rather than a confused mess. The major message to the new manager would be don't try to get 20 lads to do what worked for the last 20 lads you used. Do what suits the current bunch. Pearson had it set in his mind what he wanted. He expected it everyone to adapt. How about meeting them halfway and slowly introduce your methods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 For me it's simple - I want to see as many of our best players on the pitch as possible, with as many of them as possible doing what they are good at. If the manager is trying to achieve that, then he'll have all the support I can give him. That's an incredibly low baseline IMO, and it's amazing that it even needs to be stated at all, but after what we've seen with Pearson... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyram1983 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 The players need their arse kicked. It can't be mclarens, wassalls, Clements and pearsons fault. Who are these players that are disruptive? They need putting in the reserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 47 minutes ago, curtains said: Mandatory . The players can't adapt IMO to any other system This forum won't allow anything else. I am being facetious lol. So request the new manager to play a system that didn't get us promoted for 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 25 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Usually players come and go but here it's the managers come and go, need an overhaul of the squad and get rid of players who fail to adapt to different methods, how else is the new manager going to succeed with this group of failures?? Is this not the idea of 'The Derby Way'? Rather than an overhaul of players after every new manager we employ somebody who shares similar footballing beliefs and so continuity ensues and we continue going forward? P.S. 90% of our current squad have only failed once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 33 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Usually players come and go but here it's the managers come and go, need an overhaul of the squad and get rid of players who fail to adapt to different methods, how else is the new manager going to succeed with this group of failures?? The only time we've actually really been a failure was in McClarens full season in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: The only time we've actually really been a failure was in McClarens full season in charge. When we were top in March and then lost half our first team to injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 35 minutes ago, Derbyram1983 said: The players need their arse kicked. It can't be mclarens, wassalls, Clements and pearsons fault. Who are these players that are disruptive? They need putting in the reserves Thought Pearson was the bloke to give them a kick up the arse. How did they disrupt McClaren, Clement and Wassall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 11 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: The only time we've actually really been a failure was in McClarens full season in charge. Really? Failed at play off final, failed when we capitulated and finished 8th, failed last season when humbled at home by hull in the semis............ i make that three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Really? Failed at play off final, failed when we capitulated and finished 8th, failed last season when humbled at home by hull in the semis............ i make that three Why did we fail? Was it because of the players? I suppose it was. How dare they get injured. Sack them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, Ilsonram12 said: Really? Failed at play off final, failed when we capitulated and finished 8th, failed last season when humbled at home by hull in the semis............ i make that three So unless we appoint Ranieri or Dyche we are appointing a failure then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 15 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: When we were top in March and then lost half our first team to injury? Yes I don't personally class that season as a failure but it's the only one that I could understand anyone stating as a failure in the last 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 Just now, G STAR RAM said: So unless we appoint Ranieri or Dyche we are appointing a failure then? Just a manager to sort the men from the boys/bottlers, think we all thought we had that with the disciplinarian Pearson but..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 We're not even the same team from Wembley so to say we're still bottlejobs is to pretend we're still playing with Bamford, Wisdom, Dawkins, Ward, Buxton, Grant, Hendrick, Martin etc. Carson, Pearce, Shackell, Olsson, Butterfield, Johnson, Anya, Vydra, Wilson, Blackman, Camara and all youth players have been in the team for a season or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ilsonram12 Posted October 8, 2016 Share Posted October 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, cannable said: Why did we fail? Was it because of the players? I suppose it was. How dare they get injured. Sack them all. Oh you mean when Martin and Thorne and eustace was injured, lost ibe and we brought in Ince and Bent and persisted with 4-3-3 and everyone was crying out for a plan B?? good old 4-3-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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