cheron85 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 11 hours ago, Lokidoki said: Most people would give their right ear to earn a part of what footballers earn. Irrelevant - All wages (in the private sector) are about supply and demand - If someone is willing to pay it they'll pay it 11 hours ago, Lokidoki said: Repeat failings and histrionics would get you the sack in your day job and that's more of a reason to criticise. And that is why CM gets singled out. Depends what job you do There's no suggestion that in training or off the field Martin has anything other than a solid and dependable professional for us - The fact that he 'acts up' on the pitch is part of the job - And a fairly acceptable part of his specific job (Assuming ability) I'd get sacked from being a footballer if I acted the way I do at work - I'm constantly questioning the way we work and the thoughts that go into it - Because I'm supposed to - You can't apply the same measures to every single job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 3 hours ago, ollycutts1982 said: 2 less if you want to be picky. So Gray scored 41 goals in one season huh! Impressive..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Wolfie said: Or 2 fewer if you want to be really picky Someone clearly wasn't smoking behind the bikesheds instead of going to English classes at school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 50 minutes ago, 86 points said: So Gray scored 41 goals in one season huh! Impressive..... Goals not seasons wally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 14 hours ago, Simsy said: Gray scored in 2 seasons what Martin did in 3 4 hours ago, ollycutts1982 said: 2 less if you want to be picky. 37 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: Goals not seasons wally. Well make it clear then Doris * How did you know my name is Wally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Andre Gray costs £20m and plays in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 6 minutes ago, 86 points said: Well make it clear then Doris * How did you know my name is Wally I work as a clairvoyant on a weekend, and Doris is my weekend name not my Tuesday name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 17 hours ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Not really clutching at straws though is it... the players in that list haven't played in the championship 3 seasons in a row. 43 in 3 seasons is only 14.3 goals a season which really isn't that great. Rate Martin highly by all means but his goal scoring record won't be winning any golden boots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 5 hours ago, 86 points said: Someone clearly wasn't smoking behind the bikesheds instead of going to English classes at school I've regretted it ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 48 minutes ago, Simsy said: Not really clutching at straws though is it... the players in that list haven't played in the championship 3 seasons in a row. 43 in 3 seasons is only 14.3 goals a season which really isn't that great. Rate Martin highly by all means but his goal scoring record won't be winning any golden boots. To be honest,I was just supporting a Derby player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 57 minutes ago, Simsy said: Not really clutching at straws though is it... the players in that list haven't played in the championship 3 seasons in a row. 43 in 3 seasons is only 14.3 goals a season which really isn't that great. Rate Martin highly by all means but his goal scoring record won't be winning any golden boots. But the same Ross McCormack that previously many of our fans were obsessed with signing has, and he's got less goals than Martin. Andre Gray was playing in a promoted side, so naturally would get a lot of goals, considering he was playing in a top side. Murphy was in the championship for the past 3 seasons, and Chris Wood's stats are padded out by a phenomenal season by himself last year. Martin has consistently got goals in this league, and this stat doesn't include his highest scoring season for us in the Wembley year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokidoki Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 9 hours ago, cheron85 said: You can't apply the same measures to every single job Yes and on this I'm blind-sided because I don't know what you do. But I refer to the fact that I have had 45 years in work from working in a factory to being an MD in my own business. I'm retired now so more mellow but I've worked in businesses that if you questioned what they do and how they do it - you'd be out on your ear; note these were not suitable for me as I challenge everything. Diving maybe acceptable to some (evidently not to the FA this year and me neither) but pitch tantrums don't - you are representing your club, employer and fans. To me it's gross misconduct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Sheriff Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 hour ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: To be honest,I was just supporting a Derby player. You were looking for a reaction! I fully support Martin in a stadium. But In a rams forum discussion i just state he's really not as great as what people make out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 1 minute ago, Simsy said: You were looking for a reaction! I fully support Martin in a stadium. But In a rams forum discussion i just state he's really not as great as what people make out. Neither is he as bad as others make out. As about the last 10 years worth of strikers have proven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 7 minutes ago, Simsy said: You were looking for a reaction! I fully support Martin in a stadium. But In a rams forum discussion i just state he's really not as great as what people make out. And others including myself state otherwise and the stats speak for themselves..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninos Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 2 hours ago, Simsy said: Not really clutching at straws though is it... the players in that list haven't played in the championship 3 seasons in a row. 43 in 3 seasons is only 14.3 goals a season which really isn't that great. Rate Martin highly by all means but his goal scoring record won't be winning any golden boots. Exactly, and add all those penalties scored then subtract all the misses. For me all that counts is your last game and that was disappointing with the glaring Sunderland miss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ninos said: Exactly, and add all those penalties scored then subtract all the misses. For me all that counts is your last game and that was disappointing with the glaring Sunderland miss. Martin was one of the few bright lights in that game ninos.....what about nugents miss? What are your thoughts on your messiah rowett then?...I take it you judge him on his last match too?......personally I've judged him on the last ten games and it's not been impressive up to now. Mind you,I'm willing to give him time as I don't have an irrational vendetta against the fella. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comrade 86 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 3 hours ago, Simsy said: Not really clutching at straws though is it... the players in that list haven't played in the championship 3 seasons in a row. 43 in 3 seasons is only 14.3 goals a season which really isn't that great. Rate Martin highly by all means but his goal scoring record won't be winning any golden boots. Only played half a season's worth of games at Fulham so it's nearer 17.2 goals a year which is top rank for the division. Let's face it, that Neymar bloke's not fit to lace our Chrissy's boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 Martin has scored 26 goals [league and cup] in the last two seasons, not as bad as some think, but not as brilliant either as some think. He has to prove something this season, as every season so far he has scored fewer goals season on season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 He'll finish Wolves top scorer imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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