Mostyn6 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just to point out too, Wassall did better than McClaren, with NONE of his own players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 8 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: I know that, but, as Clement did, and McClaren before him, and Clough before that, should Wassall be given the chance to advise selling/releasing certain players and recruiting others? I think he should, but the way you worded the first option sounds like "would you want to appoint Wassall as manager of the club and have full control" and not appointing him as head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Didn't want Clement sacked either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The wording of this doesn't sit right with me. He has done pretty well a couple of performances aside given the situation he stepped in to. I don't think he is the man to lead us in to next season mind you. One day he might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 3 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Just to point out too, Wassall did better than McClaren, with NONE of his own players. Don't want him in the Managers seat but would like him to have his original job back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 No from me, but with recognition for what he has done and understanding a) it's a very harsh judgment and b) there is a credible case for letting him build a team. But, my instinct tells me that Wassall isn't the man to stiffen our backbone and harden our soft-centred nature. It's OK when we're not under pressure but in the big pressure situations like Saturday we failed. We have the ability to challenge but not the winning mentality. That's my feelings in the context of this poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, curtains said: Don't want him in the Managers seat but would like him to have his original job back. This. Force for good for the academy, if nothing else he deserves to be back there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 The answer to your poll is yes and I just posted to that effect in another thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, EnigmaRam said: The answer to your poll is yes and I just posted to that effect in another thread Why. What has he achieved. Tell me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cam the Ram Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Just now, Mostyn6 said: But McClaren was a very experienced manager. The players still failed horribly. It's time to refresh the squad. Obviously whoever is in charge will need to shake things up a little, but I don't agree with some of the posters on here who are basically suggesting to sell nearly the whole team. People in the transfer suggestion thread are pretty much wanting the whole defence sold and replaced, after one of our best seasons defensively in recent memory. And then we've got people wanting to sell Ince, who in an average/below average season for him personally, has contributed to more goals than most players in this league with 12 goals and 8 assists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 we are no better off than when he took over have performances improved - not really think alot of last night was down to individual pride and correcting the mistakes made on saturday i wanted rodgers but he looks like he is off to the scottish pub league so if going to be whos available big decision to come from uncle Mel - just hope who ever comes in get full control Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDeadlySaul Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 6 minutes ago, Saturn5 said: we are no better off than when he took over have performances improved - not really think alot of last night was down to individual pride and correcting the mistakes made on saturday i wanted rodgers but he looks like he is off to the scottish pub league so if going to be whos available big decision to come from uncle Mel - just hope who ever comes in get full control We were on a downwards fall when Clement was sacked and we played some of the most boring football all season. I don't understand how you can say that performances haven't improved, the football has been its best all season and results like the 4-0 v Hull would have never happened under Clement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Are we not allowed to have the opinion that he did absolutely fine with what he inherited but at the same time be reluctant that he's the man long term? That would fall somewhere in the middle of that, there's not really an option in there for what I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halifaxram Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 All depends on where, and how, the football club sits in your particular firmament. I suspect that some/many rely on success to contribute to their own sense of self-worth, hence the lashing out at anyone they perceive to have let them down. For myself, the club sit somewhere in a niche, alongside family and friends, and consequent upon that is that you laugh together in the good times, and cry together in the bad, without recriminations. This can be tarnished a little if you identify a lack of effort and commitment, which happened on Saturday and was rectified last night. On this premise, I want to like, and believe in our squad/staff, and if I do, then the sense of "we're all in it together", overrides the yearning for success all costs. Therefore I would be totally comfortable with Darren being retained, but my preference would be that he was assistant to an experienced guy for a year or two, and retained an interest in the academy, which he appears to do very well. In my view it would be a great shame if we lost people who are committed, and love the club, and replaced them with mercenaries who may only be around for a short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 we beat Hull away Under Clement - its very easy to look at what Clement did badly as it is with Wassall but the fact remains we were 5th when Clement left and we are 5th at the end of the season only further away from the top two than we had been Last night we excellent but Saturday Woeful as was Ipswich, Sheff Wed, MK Dons, QPR, and the last 10 v Rotherham But if you only want to judge everything on only the positives then please carry on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casio Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 I think Wassall has done a good job this season. A manager who had so much doubt and negativity directed towards him when he was appointed by Mel and has managed to get the players playing entertaining football again for the most part of his reign this season (which is all I personally wanted, Clement's football had become infuriating to watch, especially when the results weren't coming). Was very happy for him last night as again, he took a lot of flack (understandably) and has handling himself with dignity IMO throughout. I have however, voted to get a new boss in. I feel that if our expectations were to challenge for the play-offs, we would have no reason not to appoint DW full time. Because of our recent seasons performances however, as a club our expectations are much higher than this and I feel that is too much for DW with the limited experience he has. He's done a good job and deserves credit for what he achieved this season, given a good majority of fans thought his appointment was a disaster and we would tumble out of the play-offs like the previous season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted May 18, 2016 Author Share Posted May 18, 2016 16 minutes ago, Saturn5 said: we are no better off than when he took over have performances improved - not really think alot of last night was down to individual pride and correcting the mistakes made on saturday i wanted rodgers but he looks like he is off to the scottish pub league so if going to be whos available big decision to come from uncle Mel - just hope who ever comes in get full control hang on, so you're happy to judge Wassall on managing someone else's players, harshly, without crediting him for sustaining a play-off place and halting the slide, BUT you want the next manager to be allowed full control? Hypocritical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kernow Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 4 minutes ago, nottingram said: Are we not allowed to have the opinion that he did absolutely fine with what he inherited but at the same time be reluctant that he's the man long term? That would fall somewhere in the middle of that, there's not really an option in there for what I think Would be exactly my thoughts too. I voted no in the poll but I think the wording is harsh. I appreciate what he did/has done, but I think we need somebody different to take us forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 Has Mel asked you to start a poll.,-OR are you bored Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturn5 Posted May 18, 2016 Share Posted May 18, 2016 1 minute ago, Mostyn6 said: hang on, so you're happy to judge Wassall on managing someone else's players, harshly, without crediting him for sustaining a play-off place and halting the slide, BUT you want the next manager to be allowed full control? Hypocritical Full control refers to anyone coming in having control of signing so we dont end up with players like Pearce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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