Mossack Fonseca

[Bingy]

Maybe this leak will finally shed some light on the real owners of ABC Corporation.

Maybe we can get some closure on the whole damn thing.

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[GboroRam]

43 minutes ago, Bingy said:

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If I understood it, I'd try to help. 

[Anon]

Mossack Fonseca is the Panamanian firm that specialises in tax evasion services and had some of their confidential records leaked. Lots of high profile people and corporations are in for a metaphorical rogering.

[Gypsy Ram]

I will not be surprised if some really "loved" celebrities, business leaders and politicians come out of this stinking ... Some interesting names from the USA already emerging. 

[Bingy]

I would love to search for ABC Corporation and see what comes up

 

[Shang]

I find the coverage of some of this insane. In 2.4 TERABYTES of data Putins name isn't mentioned once (but admittedly a lot of his inner circle are) and the Guardian leads with an anti-Putin messsage. Britain and it's overseas territories are severely implicated in this more than Putin is. David Cameron's dad featured in it and it took them 6-7 hours after the story broke to release that fact.

[Boycie]

Bet our Daveos burning paperwork in Grimsby atm 

[Inglorius]

5 hours ago, Gypsy Ram said:

I will not be surprised if some really "loved" celebrities, business leaders and politicians come out of this stinking ... Some interesting names from the USA already emerging. 

Jimmy Carr already got nailed for that didn't he a few years ago 

[jono]

32 minutes ago, Shang said:

I find the coverage of some of this insane. In 2.4 TERABYTES of data Putins name isn't mentioned once (but admittedly a lot of his inner circle are) and the Guardian leads with an anti-Putin messsage. Britain and it's overseas territories are severely implicated in this more than Putin is. David Cameron's dad featured in it and it took them 6-7 hours after the story broke to release that fact.

Terabytes of data . Ha ha ha don't make me laugh. What a limp way to describe a trove of documents in the written word. Typical of athose with a warped political agenda trying to sound in the know. 

Machiavelli had it right when he said power corrupts and it is plainly obvious that lots of powerful people on every side of politics and commerce are going to be very embarrassed. I suggest that it has rather more global import that Putin is mentioned, however sparsely, than David Cameron's Dad.

Add to that the Guardian is hardly a friend of old DC so will doubtless be rubbing their hands with glee at any government red faces it can spot. One suspects you adhere to a certain type of belief that includes thinking a Zionist plot was behind 9/11and Vlad and his polonium dispensing chums are just a badly misunderstood bunch of nice fellows. Go and read Hitlers logic behind Anschluss and then study old Vlads justifications for the Ukraine. Some remarkable similarities.

Corruption is universal and doesn't depend on your political affiliation. To suggest it does is as laughable as it is narrow minded. 

[bigbadbob]

4 hours ago, Bingy said:

I would love to search for ABC Corporation and see what comes up

 

Go ahead then, knock yourself out. Let us know what you find out

[Inglorius]

More importantly can someone give me the names of some of these off shore banks I've got a few quid I want to stash away from the prying eyes of the taxman

[Mafiabob]

2 hours ago, Boycie said:

Bet our Daveos burning paperwork in Grimsby atm 

Only just discovered fire up them parts 

[Boycie]

1 hour ago, Mafiabob said:

Only just discovered fire up them parts 

Poor sods think there's a new pope on his street!

[Ramarena]

Looks like Lionel Messi is involved in this.

[Stive Pesley]

How can Cameron remain as PM given the revelations that his entire privilege and fortune was stashed by his father in an off-shore tax haven?

Meanwhile he keeps a straight face telling us that this govt will clamp down on tax avoidance

Then when asked if he still has money invested in off-shore tax havens he refuses to answer and says it is "a private matter"!!

How are we not on the streets protesting against this ****??

 

[Shang]

18 hours ago, jono said:

Terabytes of data . Ha ha ha don't make me laugh. What a limp way to describe a trove of documents in the written word. Typical of athose with a warped political agenda trying to sound in the know. 

Machiavelli had it right when he said power corrupts and it is plainly obvious that lots of powerful people on every side of politics and commerce are going to be very embarrassed. I suggest that it has rather more global import that Putin is mentioned, however sparsely, than David Cameron's Dad.

Add to that the Guardian is hardly a friend of old DC so will doubtless be rubbing their hands with glee at any government red faces it can spot. One suspects you adhere to a certain type of belief that includes thinking a Zionist plot was behind 9/11and Vlad and his polonium dispensing chums are just a badly misunderstood bunch of nice fellows. Go and read Hitlers logic behind Anschluss and then study old Vlads justifications for the Ukraine. Some remarkable similarities.

Corruption is universal and doesn't depend on your political affiliation. To suggest it does is as laughable as it is narrow minded. 

Your suspicions about me are wrong, way to reel off a load of bullshit for a like. I question all politicians, but everyone needs to be held to the same standards. I know corruption is universal, the issue I have is the timescale for the media to finally come out regarding Cameron's tax evasion. This revelation wouldn't have been new since they had the information for a year.

I'm not a lover of Putin, but they selectively decided to focus the narrative on players away from home as their initial headline attack and for what purpose? 11 million documents and not ONE mention of Putin but mentions of Lords in our government and our Prime Ministers dad? What is more important to the British public?

The media needs to be held to account when it doesn't inform the public and we increasingly seeing media as a mouthpiece for sitting governments and / or scared to lose favour with them.

[PistoldPete2]

12 minutes ago, StivePesley said:

How can Cameron remain as PM given the revelations that his entire privilege and fortune was stashed by his father in an off-shore tax haven?

Meanwhile he keeps a straight face telling us that this govt will clamp down on tax avoidance

Then when asked if he still has money invested in off-shore tax havens he refuses to answer and says it is "a private matter"!!

How are we not on the streets protesting against this ****??

 

i cant really get very excited about other peoples tax affairs TBH, especially if its David Cameron's  deceased father.

 

 

 

 

[jono]

1 hour ago, Shang said:

Your suspicions about me are wrong, way to reel off a load of bullshit for a like. I question all politicians, but everyone needs to be held to the same standards. I know corruption is universal, the issue I have is the timescale for the media to finally come out regarding Cameron's tax evasion. This revelation wouldn't have been new since they had the information for a year.

I'm not a lover of Putin, but they selectively decided to focus the narrative on players away from home as their initial headline attack and for what purpose? 11 million documents and not ONE mention of Putin but mentions of Lords in our government and our Prime Ministers dad? What is more important to the British public?

The media needs to be held to account when it doesn't inform the public and we increasingly seeing media as a mouthpiece for sitting governments and / or scared to lose favour with them.

You flatter to deceive. The British Media or at least the better part of it has a good track record for digging out dodgy practice. The expenses scandal is a prime example. The FACT is we now know about some of the high rankers in our own camp and we will doubtless discover more as time goes by, so your moans seem to hang on the fact that the story writers felt Putin made a better headline than DC's dead father. Never the less his name was mentioned and it was reported. The guardian is no mouth piece for the sitting government, in fact it is an implacable foe. It has a problem at the moment because Corbyn has proved so inept that it isn't quite sure where to hang it's hat. ... Oh and I don't write posts for likes, I write what I believe and have learned over a lifetime. If you had stretched your intellect a little you might understand that strongly help views tend to engender as many dislikes as likes but truth and honest pragmatism will always hold sway. I don't think I am wrong in my assessment of your agenda, you bristle with aggression directed towards what you consider to be the establishment and that seems to cover everything from Conservative Governments and socialist news papers. All of which leads me to believe that accuracy and moderation don't suit your particular stance. 

[Wolfie]

21 hours ago, Boycie said:

Bet our Daveos burning paperwork in Grimsby atm 

No need. Changing the last 2 letters of your name renders you invisble to HMRC.

[Shang]

36 minutes ago, jono said:

You flatter to deceive. The British Media or at least the better part of it has a good track record for digging out dodgy practice. The expenses scandal is a prime example. The FACT is we now know about some of the high rankers in our own camp and we will doubtless discover more as time goes by, so your moans seem to hang on the fact that the story writers felt Putin made a better headline than DC's dead father. Never the less his name was mentioned and it was reported. The guardian is no mouth piece for the sitting government, in fact it is an implacable foe. It has a problem at the moment because Corbyn has proved so inept that it isn't quite sure where to hang it's hat. ... Oh and I don't write posts for likes, I write what I believe and have learned over a lifetime. If you had stretched your intellect a little you might understand that strongly help views tend to engender as many dislikes as likes but truth and honest pragmatism will always hold sway. I don't think I am wrong in my assessment of your agenda, you bristle with aggression directed towards what you consider to be the establishment and that seems to cover everything from Conservative Governments and socialist news papers. All of which leads me to believe that accuracy and moderation don't suit your particular stance. 

You can stop making assumptions about me and my personal character based on a few hundred words on a topic on an internet forum.

No one should be moderate on this issue. I AM angry. Even if you disregard David Cameron's dead father, 3 peers in our government have been implicated, and this is happening under our noses in British Overseas Territories. Countless of people have died and committed suicide because of this governments deficit reduction regime, but still allow this tax avoidance to happen in territories that we can hold accountable. How can I not get angry about that?

The fact is a story should not be manipulated to imply a fact without hard evidence, but it happened in this case, in an effort to sell newspapers and to avoid conflict with the government we have been selectively misinformed. A free and independent press should be aspired towards for the betterment of all society yet we're increasingly losing the teeth of previously critical journalists due to the focus on money and access journalism. Yes there has been good critical work in the past, but my complaint is that it didn't happened THIS time.