Derby County v Huddersfield Town

[needles]

30 minutes ago, MrsRam said:

Felt a bit sorry for Bryson coming on to boo's im sure he knew it wasn't for him. As for the 'you don't know what you're doing' I was a bit embarassed about that, no need. The substitutions were ok in the end. 

Subs were perfect. That chant made me cringe.

[wingfieldram]

On 05/03/2016 at 20:48, Animal is a Ram said:

We looked better when Bryson came on. No idea how Hendrick stayed on the pitch.

I also thought Ince was poor today. Didn't look bothered in the first half, improved in the second. Was unlucky not to score though.

Hanson did well today. Let's get Thorne fit by building him up, exactly what we did today.

Keogh was magnificent, save for the slice that nearly ended up in our net.

 

I thought Ince played really well today. Unlucky not to score, made some fantastic passes and worked hard. He looked very committed to me.  I was most encouraged. 

[Srg]

42 minutes ago, Anon said:

I thought he was excellent today. He worked hard, as usual, but his decision making was so much better. As people have commented elsewhere he worked very nicely with Olsson. I'd love it if those two could develop an understanding as one of my main frustrations this season has been Christie and Ince constantly playing like they've never met each other before.

Christie often plays like he's never met his own feet, in fairness. 

[top 6 finish]

Although I only live about 3 miles from the ground due to health reasons my Doctor says it would not me a good idea to go along.So I rely on input from you lot and Radio Gaga,sorry Derby.Unless its on "Sky",of course. Trouble is did all of you attend the same match? I have never read such diverse opinions as on this one. I realise that Huddersfield is a rich club that have spent millions and have strong ambitions and can be a right handful and are a difficult side for our little modest club to handle.So I am delighted with the result,just a pity I have no idea how well we played,not on here ,anyway.

[sage]

6 hours ago, RamNut said:

Ince on the left worked. A natural left footer Sage!

he obviously had a license to come central as had Johnson previously 

but.....he doesn't have the option to cut in from the right on his left foot which has become so predictable.

A better performance overall.

hanson did quite well. Jeff was crap. He seems to be turning into robbie savage. 

We blew hot and cold but did enough.

He did do quite well. One left foot shot and one with the right. Couple of good crosses. If he can track better and pass the ball more I'd be happier.

I would also say that Huddersfield didn't double up on him as most teams have done this year.

[DEL]

7 hours ago, McLovin said:

Furthermore, Hendrick was been winging it for weeks which is worrying as we continue to play him. No idea how he continues to play, bang average player league 1 standard at best

Dear oh dear. 

 

Same Hendrick who scored against Brentford and was man of the match? 

 

Stop bashing him! 

[DEL]

Anyway better than last game tbh. Ince MOTM, Martin is back to his best happy days. 

[ketteringram]

8 hours ago, top 6 finish said:

Although I only live about 3 miles from the ground due to health reasons my Doctor says it would not me a good idea to go along.So I rely on input from you lot and Radio Gaga,sorry Derby.Unless its on "Sky",of course. Trouble is did all of you attend the same match? I have never read such diverse opinions as on this one. I realise that Huddersfield is a rich club that have spent millions and have strong ambitions and can be a right handful and are a difficult side for our little modest club to handle.So I am delighted with the result,just a pity I have no idea how well we played,not on here ,anyway.

Well, to be honest , neither have I. And I was there from start to finish. 

[valleyram]

10 hours ago, eddie said:

Now he's approaching match-sharpness, yes. I'm convinced that if he and Hughes hadn't beein injured at Bolton in the first 20 minutes of the first game of the season, we would be up there with Boro and Burnley - and Clement would still be in a job - they bring that much to the team and compliment each other perfectly.

And along with Leicesters  success story proves you don't have to spend millions to be a success in any league , you need ability but you need the character to go along with it 

[BottrillRAM]

My ratings:

 

Carson - 9, solid match for him, didn't have a great deal to do but did it well when he needed to

Christie - 7, thought he played well for most of the game, just a couple of mistakes but nothing major

Keogh - 9, had a really good game yesterday, won most of his headers and had some good forward runs

Shackell - 8, had a good game but didn't do too much going forwards but solid nonetheless 

Olsson - 8, played well but occasionally stood off the man too much when defending, good going forwards

Hanson - 7, had a decent game but nothing special, gave away possesion quite abit with sloppy passing

Hendrick - 9, I thought he was our best player, good pressure and attacking runs and looked the bright spark in midfield

Butterfield - 7, didn't do too much yesterday, couple of good passes but an average performance from him 

Blackman - 8, looked lively when he got the ball and always looked a threat going forwards

Ince - 8, going forwards he was one of our best players but defensively he was poor and left Olsson with alot to do

Martin - 8, great hold up play and passing from him and got some decent shots away, didn't make many runs though (I know that's not his kind of game though) 

Russell - 8, played really well when he came on, looked a threat and he was really lively 

Bryson - 9, easily the hardest working player from yesterday, full if running when he was on and created alot of chances

Thorne - 7, looked calm on the ball and most of the time his passing was good but didn't see much of him

[unclej]

10 hours ago, eddie said:

Now he's approaching match-sharpness, yes. I'm convinced that if he and Hughes hadn't beein injured at Bolton in the first 20 minutes of the first game of the season, we would be up there with Boro and Burnley - and Clement would still be in a job - they bring that much to the team and compliment each other perfectly.

You're almost certain to be right, despite it being absolutely impossible to say. 

[eddie]

3 minutes ago, unclej said:

You're almost certain to be right, despite it being absolutely impossible to say. 

Red lorry, yellow lorry.

[sage]

18 minutes ago, BottrillRAM said:

My ratings:

 

Carson - 9, solid match for him, didn't have a great deal to do but did it well when he needed to

Christie - 7, thought he played well for most of the game, just a couple of mistakes but nothing major

Keogh - 9, had a really good game yesterday, won most of his headers and had some good forward runs

Shackell - 8, had a good game but didn't do too much going forwards but solid nonetheless 

Olsson - 8, played well but occasionally stood off the man too much when defending, good going forwards

Hanson - 7, had a decent game but nothing special, gave away possesion quite abit with sloppy passing

Hendrick - 9, I thought he was our best player, good pressure and attacking runs and looked the bright spark in midfield

Butterfield - 7, didn't do too much yesterday, couple of good passes but an average performance from him 

Blackman - 8, looked lively when he got the ball and always looked a threat going forwards

Ince - 8, going forwards he was one of our best players but defensively he was poor and left Olsson with alot to do

Martin - 8, great hold up play and passing from him and got some decent shots away, didn't make many runs though (I know that's not his kind of game though) 

Russell - 8, played really well when he came on, looked a threat and he was really lively 

Bryson - 9, easily the hardest working player from yesterday, full if running when he was on and created alot of chances

Thorne - 7, looked calm on the ball and most of the time his passing was good but didn't see much of him

Are you taking the pee? 

[Curtains]

20 minutes ago, BottrillRAM said:

My ratings:

 

Carson - 9, solid match for him, didn't have a great deal to do but did it well when he needed to

Christie - 7, thought he played well for most of the game, just a couple of mistakes but nothing major

Keogh - 9, had a really good game yesterday, won most of his headers and had some good forward runs

Shackell - 8, had a good game but didn't do too much going forwards but solid nonetheless 

Olsson - 8, played well but occasionally stood off the man too much when defending, good going forwards

Hanson - 7, had a decent game but nothing special, gave away possesion quite abit with sloppy passing

Hendrick - 9, I thought he was our best player, good pressure and attacking runs and looked the bright spark in midfield

Butterfield - 7, didn't do too much yesterday, couple of good passes but an average performance from him 

Blackman - 8, looked lively when he got the ball and always looked a threat going forwards

Ince - 8, going forwards he was one of our best players but defensively he was poor and left Olsson with alot to do

Martin - 8, great hold up play and passing from him and got some decent shots away, didn't make many runs though (I know that's not his kind of game though) 

Russell - 8, played really well when he came on, looked a threat and he was really lively 

Bryson - 9, easily the hardest working player from yesterday, full if running when he was on and created alot of chances

Thorne - 7, looked calm on the ball and most of the time his passing was good but didn't see much of him

Buxton superb    30 out of 10. 

[RiddingsRam]

24 minutes ago, BottrillRAM said:

My ratings:

 

Carson - 9, solid match for him, didn't have a great deal to do but did it well when he needed to

Christie - 7, thought he played well for most of the game, just a couple of mistakes but nothing major

Keogh - 9, had a really good game yesterday, won most of his headers and had some good forward runs

Shackell - 8, had a good game but didn't do too much going forwards but solid nonetheless 

Olsson - 8, played well but occasionally stood off the man too much when defending, good going forwards

Hanson - 7, had a decent game but nothing special, gave away possesion quite abit with sloppy passing

Hendrick - 9, I thought he was our best player, good pressure and attacking runs and looked the bright spark in midfield

Butterfield - 7, didn't do too much yesterday, couple of good passes but an average performance from him 

Blackman - 8, looked lively when he got the ball and always looked a threat going forwards

Ince - 8, going forwards he was one of our best players but defensively he was poor and left Olsson with alot to do

Martin - 8, great hold up play and passing from him and got some decent shots away, didn't make many runs though (I know that's not his kind of game though) 

Russell - 8, played really well when he came on, looked a threat and he was really lively 

Bryson - 9, easily the hardest working player from yesterday, full if running when he was on and created alot of chances

Thorne - 7, looked calm on the ball and most of the time his passing was good but didn't see much of him

I think you were watching the game with rose tinted glasses on there with some of them reviews ! 

Christie is poor ,  he's not good enough for this level consistently, yeah his cross was good and he's works hard but quality ? I'm afraid he's not good enough .

Hendrick 9 ? Come on ! He was the worst player on the pitch. I've never seen someone so physically big be so weak on the ball ! Not one of Jeff s best games I'm afraid . 

Apart from the above 2 mentioned I thought everyone else played well . Olsson looks like a solid buy and could be our left back for a long time at this level or even higher . Keogh and Martin were also very impressive yesterday . Nice too see us playing to Chrissy s strengths a bit more . 

[catram]

Good win played well ince mom he never looks happy when we score tho!

[sage]

My ratings and thoughts are

Carson 7 - Didn't make any mistakes but also didn't make any saves that any other keeper wouldn't.

Christie 5 - Started ok but then made a catalogue of errors, Must have lost the ball 10 times. Got handed a new one in the first 15 minutes of the second half.

Olsson 6 - Was ok occasionally good going forward, nut much too passive defensively. I like defenders to stay on their feet, but backed off and jockeyed far too much.

Keogh - 8 Immense again, Made a couple of minor errors that deny him a 9 but drives the team on and always looking to up the tempo.

Shackell 7 - Won every tackle and header but in the first half was often 5-10 yards deeper than Keogh playing wells onside when he could have easily stepped up. A sign of low confidence.

Hanson 6 - Did ok but doesn't read the oppositions attacking movements and needs to develop the ability to retain possession in tight areas if he wants to make a career in that position.

Hendrick 5 - Poor. Repeatedly lost possession try to take players on in the wrong areas. That's 3 poor games on the trot. His weak willed attempt to win a 50/50 on around 55 mins which would have given us a 2 on 1 was inexcusable. Improved in the last 20 as the game got stretched.

Butterfield 7 - Kept things ticking over and played the best two matches of the game to Ince and Christie. Didn't have his shooting boots on and he needs to start getting nearer to Martin more often.

Blackman  4 - Awful. He has had his chance in his old position and didn't take it. He literally did one good thing all game when he cut inside and shot a yard or two wide. Lost possession with his back to goal, didn't beat his man, no crosses and even stopped trying in the second half.      

Martin 8 - Led the line well, dominated his centre back and scored a great goal. It was a decent cross but there was a lot left to do. Would have got a 9 if he'd tested the keeper insyead of row Z with those two late shots.

Ince 7 - Better than he has been doing and better than I thought he'd play on the left, Still very frustrating with his lack of tracking back and refusal to play first time passes.

Subs

Bryson - 8 Full of energy has you expect and raised the game of Martin and Hendrick as he made the game become stretched with his runs behind.

Russell - 8 Along with Bryson made a massive impact on the game by using energy. Great finish for the goal, unlicky with another shot and superb cross that just eluded Martin. 

Thorne - 6 - Struggled to adapt to the pace of the game initially and doesn't look fit. Moved the ball well once he got into it. 

 

Overall

We looked a much bigger threat going forward, but defensively we looked poor for two 15 minute spells, A beteer team would have scored 1 or 2 of their chances. Our core of 2 centre backs and goalkeeper are solid and save us most of the time but it was carnage in front of them and down the sides of them. Defending isn't just for defenders.

It was something to build on and with Russell for Blackman and Bryson for Hendrick we should make the top 6. To have any success then we need to get Thorne fit. 

[JoetheRam]

From what I remember it was one of the worst experiences of a Derby win at Pride Park in my life.

We paid on the gate (only it wasn't the gate as you have to go to the ticket office now and queue up twice) to be told we could only go in the North stand or the West upper. As neither an old man, nor 8 year old, this was not a great choice.  Feeling tight, we opted to pay the £28 for the North, towards the scoreboard side.

We realised our mistake when there was seemingly the entire population of Derbyshire's primary school system sat around us, complete with names like Freddy darling and Joshy darling, and with the endless getting up and down for drinks and crisps, and the kicking of the chairs, and the screeching for Rammie, and the plum in their gob mothers saying stuff like "would you mind passing my £600 smartphone to little Tristram so he can play angry birds"... 

I'd had enough of this by half time and sought solace in a half time pie and a pint. Of course they'd ran out of pies by the time the drip serving my queue had counted everyone's change out as if he were working the cash-in desks at Caesars Palace, and they didn't have any Mars bars left. Putting my rage to one side, I had a rare moment of clarity and remembered how rubbish the beer is at football grounds. I settled for a pasty and a Twix.

£4.30 poorer, I made my way back to my seat, past the hordes of little monsters and posh mums, and reflected with my mates on what had been a rubbish first half, and how our life choices had lead us into this nightmarish scenario. Make no bones about it they battered us in the first 25 minutes - Ince hung Olson out to dry, offering no protection at all, Hanson had no ability whatsoever to stop anything through the centre and it was fortunate Keogh and Shackell were on their game. Yes we got a goal, and thank Christ(opher Martin) for that, but the general play was lathargic, ragged and despite all the shots from them, boring. Plus it got about 10 degrees colder, started raining, and the pasty was the 2nd worst thing ever put in my mouth. Miserable.

Second half was in fairness slightly better, Ince showed good quality when he got on the ball, although I felt he wasn't utilised enough and the substitutions did have a positive effect. At least the tactical genius sat next to me was having a good time picking out faults with Christie's positioning and claiming, to his uninterested 7 year old daughter that Steven Warnock was in the top 3 English left backs in the country. Even she was suspiscious of this man's ramblings.

Anyway, i'm making myself depressed recalling all of this through a fug of hazy half remembered images and snatches of conversations, so i'll sum it up.

Rubbish atmosphere, rubbish game, rubbish food, too many kids and women, poor quality football.

The best bit of this part of the day was the walk back into town, where I made innapropriate remarks to a stranger thinking it was my mate, got tripped up by a hugely apologetic guy with a beard who was quite the character, and recalled the overlooked striking talents of Danny Dichio. 

In the end I was left wondering what the hell happened to the Derby County and the football I used to enjoy as a kid. I'm still trying to formulate an answer.

[ram1964]

Hopefully onwards and upwards from this result against a team we should definatley be beating.Dont believe the leauge table is telling lies at the moment and all in all considering everything this season 5th is a flattering position.At the start of the season ,before serious money was spent i remember most members commenting on where they thought we world be at the end,and lots of you where and would have been happy with the play offs.Should that be the case ,personally dont see us winning promotion through the play offs against any of the clubs presently above us,however as we know from recent experience its not always the most deserving club that pinches 3rd spot.

COYR and get a decent manager

[Lokidoki]

10 hours ago, needles said:

As for the 'you don't know what you're doing' I was a bit embarassed about that, no need.

 

10 hours ago, needles said:

Subs were perfect. That chant made me cringe.

For those that weren't at the match or don't read threads.

 

14 hours ago, Ninos said:

The crowd was very irked with DW for not replacing Hendrick (and taking JB off) JH lost the ball so much and in key positions which is disturbingly becoming quite common. 

My seat is close to the technical area and DW looked quite concerned when the crowd got irked. Cast your mind back to the game  - when in the first 70 minutes did you see Hendrick run box to box? It didn't happen.

When Bryson came on the energy appeared and the team suddenly came to life. We have seen many matches in the past, when the styles of Bryson and Hendrick made it hard to accommodate them both in the same team. in this case it was no issue as Hendrick was only noticeable when he gave the ball away. (And BTW I am a great fan of Hendrick when he plays "strong" and on form)

In my previous threads I've said that we need to give Wassall the time but I still have to question the decision to replace Butterfield when it was obvious that the issue was with Hendrick and this was the reason why the crowd got irked. Or at least some 15,000 of them.