wixman1884 Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 3 minutes ago, eddie said: Gone to get what? I think he's going to leave to get some groceries and we're supposed to be putting our requests in here. To DARREN: 2 bags - Wotsits 2ltr bottle - Fanta 2 egg custard tarts Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 1 hour ago, wixman1884 said: I think he's going to leave to get some groceries and we're supposed to be putting our requests in here. To DARREN: 2 bags - Wotsits 2ltr bottle - Fanta 2 egg custard tarts Thank you. The egg custards have to be from Birds. There aren't any others that get near them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 30 minutes ago, richinspain said: The egg custards have to be from Birds. There aren't any others that get near them Those little lemon curd tarts too. Can we have some of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, eddie said: Those little lemon curd tarts too. Can we have some of those? I was going to ask for an elephants foot but decided not to bother as Darren needs both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 23 minutes ago, eddie said: Those little lemon curd tarts too. Can we have some of those? And a pork pie ☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuespachRam Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 2 hours ago, eddie said: Gone to get what? more money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 I started a thread about how I miss the Rams and complaining about the moaners. I now realise that there is something I miss almost as much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 28, 2016 Share Posted January 28, 2016 And it's not Darren Bent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 18 hours ago, Mostyn6 said: but the mistakes were not organisational, they were technical and mental. Those kind of mistakes are more likely when... wait for it... a player has less time to get themselves organised... A player with all the time in the world rarely makes mistakes... A player with very little time makes loads... Case and point would be the Burnley game where 1st half the defence looked okay(ish)... where 2nd half they pushed up and pressed higher at which point our defence had much less time and... well... you saw what happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 45 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Those kind of mistakes are more likely when... wait for it... a player has less time to get themselves organised... A player with all the time in the world rarely makes mistakes... A player with very little time makes loads... Case and point would be the Burnley game where 1st half the defence looked okay(ish)... where 2nd half they pushed up and pressed higher at which point our defence had much less time and... well... you saw what happened... Keogh's own goal was in the first half, when under NO pressure, and Martin was on the pitch, not Bent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 30 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: Keogh's own goal was in the first half, when under NO pressure, and Martin was on the pitch, not Bent. Interesting definition of no pressure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 3 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Interesting definition of no pressure... that is standard defending ffs! Why are you just arguing with me. This debate is whether Bent deserves the blame for Derby defending badly last season! You pipe up with logical conclusions which I rubbish. Which is it? You mentioned the second half, I point out the poor defending in the first half.... you then say this is no pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 25 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said: that is standard defending ffs! Why are you just arguing with me. This debate is whether Bent deserves the blame for Derby defending badly last season! You pipe up with logical conclusions which I rubbish. Which is it? You mentioned the second half, I point out the poor defending in the first half.... you then say this is no pressure So here's the relevance for you... You see just there... When Grey is leaning into Keogh? That's called putting a defender under pressure... It's the type of thing which can cause defenders to make mistakes... Not always... But it does happen... That happened only once really in the first half of the game... As Burnley seemed to mostly sit back... Which meant our defence had more time... And didn't make many mistakes... Second half however... Burnley changed tactics... Something which I don't have to work out for myself... Their manager actually said it after the game... He said they decided to put more pressure on our defence and press higher up the pitch to try and force us into mistakes... Which happened... ALMOST like when defenders have less time they're more prone to mistakes? Ya think that might happen? Maybe? AND FINALLY... Having a CF who can hold up the ball... Allows an outlet for pressure which is better than if you have a CF who can't hold up the ball... Is it always perfect? No... Is it slightly better? Yes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 but we dont have a CF who can hold the ball up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, RicME85 said: but we dont have a CF who can hold the ball up Have you ever watched Martin play? It's kind of one of his key attributes... https://www.whoscored.com/Players/23438/Show/Chris-Martin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevor1946 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Buy buy buy its better than sell sell sell.i think.-Bent coming or going.i don't know.He doesn't know.does clement know. and this at a time of transparency,coming or going .The plot thickens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 6 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Have you ever watched Martin play? It's kind of one of his key attributes... https://www.whoscored.com/Players/23438/Show/Chris-Martin Yes I have but thanks to 'whoscored' listing 'holding onto ball' my opinion has changed. So many people up CM's arse. I don't buy the 'he holds the ball up' malarkey, he has a terrible first touch that is too heavy to hold the ball up and for the last 12 months his falling over hasnt done anything to buy ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 37 minutes ago, cheron85 said: So here's the relevance for you... You see just there... When Grey is leaning into Keogh? That's called putting a defender under pressure... It's the type of thing which can cause defenders to make mistakes... Not always... But it does happen... That happened only once really in the first half of the game... As Burnley seemed to mostly sit back... Which meant our defence had more time... And didn't make many mistakes... Second half however... Burnley changed tactics... Something which I don't have to work out for myself... Their manager actually said it after the game... He said they decided to put more pressure on our defence and press higher up the pitch to try and force us into mistakes... Which happened... ALMOST like when defenders have less time they're more prone to mistakes? Ya think that might happen? Maybe? AND FINALLY... Having a CF who can hold up the ball... Allows an outlet for pressure which is better than if you have a CF who can't hold up the ball... Is it always perfect? No... Is it slightly better? Yes... Yes, but that happens REGARDLESS of whether Bent is playing or whether Martin is playing. So it is not relevant to this debate about whether having Bent in the team is detrimental, as the pressure in question is nothing to do with which forward is playing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 OH but it is @Mostyn6 because Martin holds the ball up and therefore the ball never makes its way back to our defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toddy Posted January 29, 2016 Share Posted January 29, 2016 Don't know what you lot are complaining about it was a decent header! does it matter it was in the wrong end? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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