Animal is a Ram Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Quote Derby forward Simon Dawkins is back in training with the Rams after missing Jamaica's World Cup qualifier against Haiti due to a "family issue". The 27-year-old was an unused substitute in Jamaica's defeat by Panama last Friday. One report claimed Dawkins had returned from international duty early because he was "disappointed" at not featuring against Panama but this has been dismissed. "I heard that report about him being unhappy, but he is OK," said Clement. "I have spoken to Simon and he said to me he asked permission to leave (the Jamaican squad) after the first game to attend to a family issue, which was in Jamaica and he was granted permission to do that." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 35 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: can people honestly say they would have him ahead of Johnson, Hendrick, Bryson, Butterfield and a fit Hughes? No... But having on the basis we only have 3 wingers and there have already been times when 1 was injured I would have had him on the bench quite a few times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I think paul had a arm around his shoulders you been through a lot lately I want take some preasure on you and just lost your mum and when your ready to play again the door is open to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 29 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: I think paul had a arm around his shoulders you been through a lot lately I want take some preasure on you and just lost your mum and when your ready to play again the door is open to you. I get your point b4 and I honestly think we all agree with you. But the problem is the world doesnt let you have months off work after you've lost family. As sad as it is Dawkins needs to pull himself together, maybe even play in memory of his mother, as the team is steaming ahead while he's been gone. It's not like a space can be held in the squad for him, as much as we would all like it to be, there is simply too many players chomping to take the place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Thing is, Jamaican families are on another level to what us boring Brits have, it's probably a big loss to the family as well as him personally hence needing time off in Jamaica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 49 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: I get your point b4 and I honestly think we all agree with you. But the problem is the world doesnt let you have months off work after you've lost family. As sad as it is Dawkins needs to pull himself together, maybe even play in memory of his mother, as the team is steaming ahead while he's been gone. It's not like a space can be held in the squad for him, as much as we would all like it to be, there is simply too many players chomping to take the place Different people deal with problems in different ways. Some people deal with it in a bad way. His mental health is more important he needs to sort that before anything. If that is the problem anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Seeing as his bereavement hasn't stopped him playing for his country, I'd imagine his lack of games is down to football reasons alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 It is easy for you to say but one of my family members had 6 weeks out as it was having a big affect menitly for about 6 weeks out of work. I hope no one you know who is greatly ill and nrothing you can do about it. It can really unhinge you mind sending you to crazy house. Hey dawkins if you ever need someone to talk too I am here okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 3 minutes ago, B4ev6is said: It is easy for you to say but one of my family members had 6 weeks out as it was having a big affect menitly for about 6 weeks out of work. I hope no one you know who is greatly ill and nrothing you can do about it. It can really unhinge you mind sending you to crazy house. Hey dawkins if you ever need someone to talk too I am here okay. Don't think Simon Dawkins read this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robster1 Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 9 hours ago, cheron85 said: 41 minutes ago, Derby_EnglandLoyal said: Don't think Simon Dawkins read this forum. o... But having on the basis we only have 3 wingers and there have already been times when 1 was injured I would have had him on the bench quite a few times... But if he does read it, he is probably scared.....very scared,..... at the number of psychiatrists that live in Derby. All the best Dawkins, would be good to see you back (just in case he is reading). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 8 hours ago, RicME85 said: Thing is, Jamaican families are on another level to what us boring Brits have, it's probably a big loss to the family as well as him personally hence needing time off in Jamaica Bit racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 Well basically, he ain't doing it on the training pitch. The reasons behind that are the reasons. But ultimately he's not "fit" enough for the team at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordy Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 13 hours ago, Grimbeard said: Bit racist? If you consider comparing two different cultures as racism, then yes, you're right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 1 hour ago, Jordy said: 1 hour ago, Jordy said: If you consider comparing two different cultures as racism, then yes, you're right. If you consider comparing two different cultures as racism, then yes, you're right. No, not at all, there are quite obviously differences between different races and cultures. My comment was slightly tongue-in-cheek. But consider, if someone had said something along the lines of " Us English care more about our children than the blacks do, so therefore white players may need more time off if their child is ill." How would a statement like that have gone down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 2 hours ago, Grimbeard said: No, not at all, there are quite obviously differences between different races and cultures. My comment was slightly tongue-in-cheek. But consider, if someone had said something along the lines of " Us English care more about our children than the blacks do, so therefore white players may need more time off if their child is ill." How would a statement like that have gone down? about as well as Eranio's comment did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robster1 Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 21 hours ago, Grimbeard said: Bit racist? No mate, different cultures. different ways to act and respond to things. I think the point was that we Brits are not as family oriented as people from the Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbadbob Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 20 hours ago, robster1 said: No mate, different cultures. different ways to act and respond to things. I think the point was that we Brits are not as family oriented as people from the Caribbean. Bit racist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicME85 Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Far from a racist comment ffs, people just far too quick to be incensed by things these days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LesterRam Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 Obviously racist, you cant say im less family orientated than people from the caribbean,that's obviously not even true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted November 22, 2015 Share Posted November 22, 2015 57 minutes ago, RicME85 said: Far from a racist comment ffs, people just far too quick to be incensed by things these days Objection!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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