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Bit late posting this, but I see that young Ed Miliband recently spoilt a good photo opportunity, by putting 2p into a homeless persons cup. Come on my socialist friends, tell me how you believe this idiot of a politician is doing anything but harm the election appeal of the Labour Party. Time to ditch?

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It's not just Miliband for me i, I detest Harriet Harman and Ed Balls an' all. His mrs hasn't quite made the detest list but she's certainly in the not keen one.

 

Miliband brings me out in turrets, for me, everything he says and does appears scripted by latter day Alister Campbell's, he could do with trying to look like he hasn't been told exactly what to say, bloody spin doctor's, I  ****   'em. At least try to look like a leader and not a fookin' puppet.

 

Harman, nodding away like some smug sycophant on PMQ's and Balls, well, he knows all the answers now he's in opposition, didn't hear too much from him when his party was leading us to almost financial Armageddon.

 

If Labour win the election it'll be despite these three, not because of them.

 

*Not saying I'm right, just my opinion. :)  

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If the Green party were given the same amount of press coverage as UKIP - bearing in mind the Greens have had an MP in parliament for longer than UKIP - then maybe there'd be more a left-sided option.

 

Ridiculous really that the Greens have been so ignored, not just by the right-wing Murdoch press, but from the BBC who should know better.

 

Labour aren't on the left anymore, they're just leftie Tories.

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It's getting to the stage where we have to accept that he's a robot. What other explanation can there be for his behaviour? I've never seen him act in a normal way, he's just a complete freak. I was stunned that he beat his brother in the first place, and I'm stunned that he's still in the job. 

 

He lectured about choosing substance over style but he has neither. Simply unelectable as a prime minister

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Between them, those feckers will be running the country for the next few years!

 

Personally, i don't care about the media friendliness of politicians. The hype and constant pressure for soundbites is pathetic. The right wing press will ridicule any Labour leader, the Mirror will do the same to every Tory, unfortunately it affects the way people vote. 

It should always be on policies, not personalities, but in today's world you need to be confident and appear sincere. It doesn't matter if you are really sincere or not, just that you come over on TV sincere. (Blair is a great example of this although further back Thatcher had it nailed perfectly).

 

Milliband just hasn't got the personal likeability to win an election outright. He may come very close if the left leaning vote stays loyal to Labour and the right wingers split between Tory and Ukip though.

 

I fully expect an unofficial pact between the Tories and Ukip not to campaign against each other in marginal constituencies where Labour have a chance of nicking a seat or two.

 

Farage was a Tory until he quit to form Ukip. I get the feeling he will be a contender for the Tory leadership at some point once the party has shifted far enough to the right.

 

Cameron will be spit roasted between Boris and Nige at some point....probably not for the first time if the Bullingdon boy rumours are true....

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It's getting to the stage where we have to accept that he's a robot. What other explanation can there be for his behaviour? I've never seen him act in a normal way, he's just a complete freak. I was stunned that he beat his brother in the first place, and I'm stunned that he's still in the job. 

 

He lectured about choosing substance over style but he has neither. Simply unelectable as a prime minister

 

Wasn't Ed elected ahead of his brother by the Unions, who saw him as much more of a soft touch than David, who always stuck me as not that bad a chap.

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Wasn't Ed elected ahead of his brother by the Unions, who saw him as much more of a soft touch than David, who always stuck me as not that bad a chap.

Exactly. Luckily, the muppets failed to realise that they wouldn't win with Ed in charge. As for David, I'll go as far as to say that I don't mind him. That's saying a lot for a labour politician.

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Exactly. Luckily, the muppets failed to realise that they wouldn't win with Ed in charge. As for David, I'll go as far as to say that I don't mind him. That's saying a lot for a labour politician.

I think you miss the point of having an alternative to the Tories.

 

David Milliband was seen as closer to Tony Blair's political stance, thus making him a virtual Tory.

 

The Unions backed Ed because he was slightly more likely of the two to support working people.

 

It makes me laugh how many Tories say David would be better than Ed....of course he would! Better for the Tory policies that New Labour followed so closely.

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I think you miss the point of having an alternative to the Tories.

 

David Milliband was seen as closer to Tony Blair's political stance, thus making him a virtual Tory.

 

The Unions backed Ed because he was slightly more likely of the two to support working people.

 

It makes me laugh how many Tories say David would be better than Ed....of course he would! Better for the Tory policies that New Labour followed so closely.

I think you overestimate how many people will think of it that way. So many people hate the Tories, without really knowing why. They aren't looking for alternative policies as such, just an alternative. I think having a competent alternative is much more important that having a completely different alternative. Obviously, not everyone is like this (as you've showed) but I refuse to accept that the majority of people are politically aware. People hate the Tories because they're Tories, not always because of their policies.

Labour's biggest problem is that they don't have workable alternatives to the current policies. Boris Johnson pointed this out when discussing Russell Brand in a newspaper column a few weeks ago (I'll try find it when I'm home). At least with David, they would probably get into power.

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