i-Ram Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Bit late posting this, but I see that young Ed Miliband recently spoilt a good photo opportunity, by putting 2p into a homeless persons cup. Come on my socialist friends, tell me how you believe this idiot of a politician is doing anything but harm the election appeal of the Labour Party. Time to ditch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Arguably David Camerons biggest strength this time around is how **** everyone else is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 It's not just Miliband for me i, I detest Harriet Harman and Ed Balls an' all. His mrs hasn't quite made the detest list but she's certainly in the not keen one. Miliband brings me out in turrets, for me, everything he says and does appears scripted by latter day Alister Campbell's, he could do with trying to look like he hasn't been told exactly what to say, bloody spin doctor's, I **** 'em. At least try to look like a leader and not a fookin' puppet. Harman, nodding away like some smug sycophant on PMQ's and Balls, well, he knows all the answers now he's in opposition, didn't hear too much from him when his party was leading us to almost financial Armageddon. If Labour win the election it'll be despite these three, not because of them. *Not saying I'm right, just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 The constant reference to a cost of living crisis really sausages me off, speak for yourselves you numptys, not constantly repeat a phrase your spin doctors tell you to utter at every opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duracell Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 If the Green party were given the same amount of press coverage as UKIP - bearing in mind the Greens have had an MP in parliament for longer than UKIP - then maybe there'd be more a left-sided option. Ridiculous really that the Greens have been so ignored, not just by the right-wing Murdoch press, but from the BBC who should know better. Labour aren't on the left anymore, they're just leftie Tories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Blame the witch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Blame the witch. Ding Dong ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisse Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Miliband gave 2p for a homeless guy ? If I had only 2p to give I would keep it myself. Luckily that hasn't been the case so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Well, I can see his problem. I only had 4p in my pocket today in change and a capsule halogen lamp. If I had past a poor beggar, I'd have given him my last pennies and a duff lamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 It's getting to the stage where we have to accept that he's a robot. What other explanation can there be for his behaviour? I've never seen him act in a normal way, he's just a complete freak. I was stunned that he beat his brother in the first place, and I'm stunned that he's still in the job. He lectured about choosing substance over style but he has neither. Simply unelectable as a prime minister Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Q. Which of the following were born into wealth and privilege, were privately educated and never had to worry about paying a bill in their lives.... Ed Milliband David Cameron Boris Johnson Nick Clegg Nigel Farage George Osbourne A. All of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 3, 2014 Share Posted November 3, 2014 Between them, those feckers will be running the country for the next few years! Personally, i don't care about the media friendliness of politicians. The hype and constant pressure for soundbites is pathetic. The right wing press will ridicule any Labour leader, the Mirror will do the same to every Tory, unfortunately it affects the way people vote. It should always be on policies, not personalities, but in today's world you need to be confident and appear sincere. It doesn't matter if you are really sincere or not, just that you come over on TV sincere. (Blair is a great example of this although further back Thatcher had it nailed perfectly). Milliband just hasn't got the personal likeability to win an election outright. He may come very close if the left leaning vote stays loyal to Labour and the right wingers split between Tory and Ukip though. I fully expect an unofficial pact between the Tories and Ukip not to campaign against each other in marginal constituencies where Labour have a chance of nicking a seat or two. Farage was a Tory until he quit to form Ukip. I get the feeling he will be a contender for the Tory leadership at some point once the party has shifted far enough to the right. Cameron will be spit roasted between Boris and Nige at some point....probably not for the first time if the Bullingdon boy rumours are true.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I'd like Ed much more if he turned down these photo ops. He just keeps giving fleet-street and other parties more material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralRam Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It should have been his brother leading the Labour party and I might have been tempted to vote for them. But even though they are a bunch of tossers, the Tories seem to be the party with any real direction so are the only option to vote for imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 In ancient Athens political leaders were chosen by drawing lots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 It's getting to the stage where we have to accept that he's a robot. What other explanation can there be for his behaviour? I've never seen him act in a normal way, he's just a complete freak. I was stunned that he beat his brother in the first place, and I'm stunned that he's still in the job. He lectured about choosing substance over style but he has neither. Simply unelectable as a prime minister Wasn't Ed elected ahead of his brother by the Unions, who saw him as much more of a soft touch than David, who always stuck me as not that bad a chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Wasn't Ed elected ahead of his brother by the Unions, who saw him as much more of a soft touch than David, who always stuck me as not that bad a chap. Exactly. Luckily, the muppets failed to realise that they wouldn't win with Ed in charge. As for David, I'll go as far as to say that I don't mind him. That's saying a lot for a labour politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Exactly. Luckily, the muppets failed to realise that they wouldn't win with Ed in charge. As for David, I'll go as far as to say that I don't mind him. That's saying a lot for a labour politician. I think you miss the point of having an alternative to the Tories. David Milliband was seen as closer to Tony Blair's political stance, thus making him a virtual Tory. The Unions backed Ed because he was slightly more likely of the two to support working people. It makes me laugh how many Tories say David would be better than Ed....of course he would! Better for the Tory policies that New Labour followed so closely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RLACML Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 I think you miss the point of having an alternative to the Tories. David Milliband was seen as closer to Tony Blair's political stance, thus making him a virtual Tory. The Unions backed Ed because he was slightly more likely of the two to support working people. It makes me laugh how many Tories say David would be better than Ed....of course he would! Better for the Tory policies that New Labour followed so closely. I think you overestimate how many people will think of it that way. So many people hate the Tories, without really knowing why. They aren't looking for alternative policies as such, just an alternative. I think having a competent alternative is much more important that having a completely different alternative. Obviously, not everyone is like this (as you've showed) but I refuse to accept that the majority of people are politically aware. People hate the Tories because they're Tories, not always because of their policies. Labour's biggest problem is that they don't have workable alternatives to the current policies. Boris Johnson pointed this out when discussing Russell Brand in a newspaper column a few weeks ago (I'll try find it when I'm home). At least with David, they would probably get into power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted November 4, 2014 Share Posted November 4, 2014 Going to be a fun election next year.... Hung parliament again.... Let the horse trading begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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