Day Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Either we're expecting to play him, a lot, or we should have told Brendan where he could shove that clause. If it exists of course...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gypsy Ram Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Chaos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 If this is true, I'd rather have not signed him, unless of course it's been accounted for and he's been told "that money's written off, you get your place as and when you deserve it" Selection should be on merit. Don't care how good he is, he should win his place on performance. Clough would never have accepted a clause like that - for all his failings as a manager, Clough valued work ethic and character in a player and in the squad. It's not like we're struggling for wingers and we're looking at signing another one - it's been well said we need more solid defence. Plus he looked like he was none to happy to be here on that interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 I still doubt there's any truth in that, but if there is then you have to think of it as just add-ons to a loan. With many transfers you might get a fee when the player plays a certain amount of games, but Liverpool want to make sure their player plays games, so they have done the opposite- a fee for if the player doesn't play a certain amount of games. The idea that we would intentionally play him to make sure we don't pay extra is much like the idea that you would drop a player when they've played 49 games, because at 50 games you owe his old club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsmini Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You didnt mention that piece was penned by Alan Nixon in his new column for the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Plus, if we go up and he hasn't played much, do we really care about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 You didnt mention that piece was penned by Alan Nixon in his new column for the sun Good spot - therefore complete and utter bullshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted August 31, 2014 Share Posted August 31, 2014 Im guessing he will feature quite a bit regardless but if that was what was agreed in the first place then i dont see what the problem is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 He will make that many appearances easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovis aries Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 The problem is if it is right then as an earlier poster said we should have told Rodgers to go forth and multipy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 If the clause is there, it's a calculated risk and I don't have the slightest problem with it. Nowadays loans are very different from what they used to be, and most have complex clauses. If Ibe's as good as we hope, there won't be an issue. If he's not, both I and the club will be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trekkie_ram Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Does 0 starts and 30 one minute sub appearance = zero fine? If he's as good as his reputation, then he'll play anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archram Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I thought in his interview he looked more scared than unhappy! He's only young, dealing with a sudden change in his living and playing situations, being interviewed by somebody he's just met. Just seemed to me that he was concentrating on not putting his foot in it which would upset his new colleagues and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daz_The_Ram Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 Tabloid newspapers are generally filled with complete and utter tosh.This snippet is no different. Today's news is tomorrow's fish and chips wrapper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 I thought in his interview he looked more scared than unhappy! He's only young, dealing with a sudden change in his living and playing situations, being interviewed by somebody he's just met. Just seemed to me that he was concentrating on not putting his foot in it which would upset his new colleagues and fans. Very shy lad apparently. Just came over as a bit awkward in being interviewed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 This was asked in the live chat with Steve Nicholson, apparently it's news to everyone concerned, so I call bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwram1973 Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 They could have waived a loan fee for him on the understanding that he will play that amount of games. Surely to loan a player like him would of cost around the half mill mark anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEL Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 LOL anyone can make things up on newspapers it's not that hard to do tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted September 1, 2014 Share Posted September 1, 2014 It may be just a question of how it's presented. There may well be a loan 'fee' for us to take Ibe. for the year...that would be perfectly normal. Liverpool may be willing to waive this fee.if he plays enough games. Seems reasonable. The Sun could turn this on it's head and call it a fine for not playing. It's like the reverse of what Insurance companies do...when insuring cars.... They present you with a 'No claims Bonus'...when it could equally be called a 'Claims Penalty' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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