Archie Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Blackburn 95 but that was hardly a surprise at the time. Agreed though, the prem is predictable at best and relies on its viewership getting excited about the same mundane details year on year. Sadly everyone swallows it and nothing changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Blackburn winning premier league in '95. Beat me to it Ramshankered, apologies for the echo. That will teach me to hit reply and then put the kettle on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 It does make you wonder if it's worth getting promoted. When was the last time there was a surprise in the top 4 of the prem?. Norwich finishing 3rd in 1992/3?Ipswich 5th in 2001 and narrowly missing out on a CL spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CumbrianRam Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 want to be in the Prem as stay in the Champ is just as boring, last season was great but do people want countless seasons of play-off failure?They are getting good money for these players, more than they are worth I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Agreed, Archie. I don't think anyone other than Norwich has broken into that group without spending big money. Blackburn certainly did. And Norwich was 21 years ago! The sad fact is that without a billionaire sugar daddy, nobody has a chance of real success. FFP wont change that either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmericanRam Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I realize we will probably never win the premier league.However,I am confident we will be in Europe somehow in the relatively near future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 If you get an owner that is willing to spend money then the world is really your oyster. I don't think you should feel too bad for Southampton though. After all, they could come in with a few weeks to go of the transfer window and do to us what Liverpool did to them. Then we could go to a lesser team and do what Southampton did to us, then the lesser team could go to an even lesser team and... well you get the idea. Money, in some peoples eyes, may have ruined football but where do you draw the line. You could argue that money has taken the power away from the so called 'big clubs' and has proven to give smaller clubs a chance. Otherwise, Wigan wouldn't have been superior to Leeds for the past decade. So, has money ruined the game? Only if you have poor owners. However, it gives 'small teams' a chance at success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 I don't think you have grasped what FFP is actually doing.First of all if you had an owner with money to burn the club will be fined if he spends a lot of it. Why would Southampton want our players?they would face relegation,same as all clubs going to lesser teams. Money hasn't taken power away from the big clubs and given the smaller clubs a chance at all,FFP has done the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
top 6 finish Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I am realistic in that we will probably never compete for a premiership title.However,I do think that in a few years time some of our players could have vast financial value. I can tell you a scenario where we could be competing for the title,and it might be closer than you think. Did you know that the top teams in Europe have been working on the idea of a Euro Super league for a while now.This idea has scared the Premier League and the other top leagues shitless,which is why FFP was brought in.If it happens and the top 4,5 or6 leave our league,think of the difference that would make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 I don't think you have grasped what FFP is actually doing.First of all if you had an owner with money to burn the club will be fined if he spends a lot of it. Why would Southampton want our players?they would face relegation,same as all clubs going to lesser teams. Money hasn't taken power away from the big clubs and given the smaller clubs a chance at all,FFP has done the opposite. I agree top6 - I am a bit surprised by the comments from Ambitious too. I have just posted a similar thread to our Baggie friend Butros along the same lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I can tell you a scenario where we could be competing for the title,and it might be closer than you think. Did you know that the top teams in Europe have been working on the idea of a Euro Super league for a while now.This idea has scared the Premier League and the other top leagues shitless,which is why FFP was brought in.If it happens and the top 4,5 or6 leave our league,think of the difference that would make. Bring it on as far as I'm concerned. Let's make the league competitive again. Who cares if we don't play the likes of Man Utd, when the odds of getting a result is so highly stacked against us? I'd rather see all teams feel they have a realistic chance of winning the league and I think any euro league would eventually wither and die when the "top" teams suddenly stop finishing in the top 4 every year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mafiabob Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Bring it on as far as I'm concerned. Let's make the league competitive again. Who cares if we don't play the likes of Man Utd, when the odds of getting a result is so highly stacked against us? I'd rather see all teams feel they have a realistic chance of winning the league and I think any euro league would eventually wither and die when the "top" teams suddenly stop finishing in the top 4 every year... Totally agree, would give football back to the fans as well, particularly lower end clubs. Would make football much cheaper and competitive and would be a good thing. The big clubs will probably realise what they would be missing if the super league happened. They would be in my opinion look elitist, they may have all the money, but in time us fans will eventually have the power. Just think, many more kids will want to go to see there local team. I would rather have a kid from Nottingham go and support Forest/County rather than Man Yoo/Citeh/Arse etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butros Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 I agree top6 - I am a bit surprised by the comments from Ambitious too. I have just posted a similar thread to our Baggie friend Butros along the same lines. I already knew exactly how FFP works and the pros and cons of it, but thanks for your input Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannable Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Totally agree, would give football back to the fans as well, particularly lower end clubs. Would make football much cheaper and competitive and would be a good thing. The big clubs will probably realise what they would be missing if the super league happened. They would be in my opinion look elitist, they may have all the money, but in time us fans will eventually have the power. Just think, many more kids will want to go to see there local team. I would rather have a kid from Nottingham go and support Forest/County rather than Man Yoo/Citeh/Arse etc. The 'die hards' would probably just found new clubs in their place anyway, like FC United of Manchester. I'm all for the European super league, rids us of the plastics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thierry Ennui Posted August 5, 2014 Share Posted August 5, 2014 Have a read of this fantastic article before you judge Southampton: http://neymarketing.wordpress.com/2014/08/04/dr-saintlove-or-how-i-learned-to-stop-worrying-and-trust-the-liebherrs/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Hmmm not doing too bad are they. 2nd in the league and a bank full of money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Still not quite over how mardy they were when we beat them in the playoffs in 2007. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 our fortunes have separated somewhat since then. That night and the Wembley win, never would have thought we would be the ones in the Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Bought low, sold high. Sold at the right time. Prolific academy. Have a footballing philosophy that doesn't depend on the specific first team coach. All that said, of course they'll fall away, but after a seriously transitional summer it looks as if they'll make the top 10 again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 21, 2014 Share Posted September 21, 2014 Smart owner. Continuing the philosophy and getting in one hell of a manager to fit right into it. Didn't expect such quick results but those that came in poaching their players underestimated how much of a team they were. Complimenting each other. Like us. Hope they do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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