Shuff264 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 The pots have been decided on, draw is on friday but apparently theres going to be a pre-draw, whatever the feck that is... "BakqDGoCAAACPUU" alt="BakqDGoCAAACPUU"> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Isn't the pre-draw just a practice before the actual thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Brazil, Ivory Coast and Mexico... first plane home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Isn't the pre-draw just a practice before the actual thing? They keep re-drawing until England gets a really crap one - then they release the video as if it was live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 Isn't the pre-draw just a practice before the actual thing? Something to do with there being 9 teams in pot four, couldnt they have just put someone else in pot 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Apparently no more than 2 nations from the same continent can be in the same group.. There are no South Americans in pot 3 or 4 and no Europeans in pot 2 or 3.. So all should be fairly easy and straight forward as it's impossible to have more than 2 from each continent anyway.. I'd love England to get a hard draw.. A group containing Germany, Chile and USA would be lovely.. If we're going to guess.. I'm going for.. Belgium, Cameroon, Honduras, England.. And we'll top the group with 2 wins and 1 draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddie Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Re pot 4, one team will be selected at random from there and added to Pot 2. That then brings about the complication whereby it would be technically feasible to end up with 3 European teams in one pot - therefore they have to ensure that when the European team is pulled from Pot 2, it can only be placed in with Brazil, Argentina, Colombia or Uruguay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC_17 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 what i hope for: switzerland algeria costa rica Reality: spain chile mexico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inter politics Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Not sure if anybody reads or follows South American football expert, Tim Vickery but apparently climate-wise, group G is one to avoid - all the matches are based in the very humid north east part of the country and the current schedule has games being played between 1 and 4pm. Group H involves some travelling but is mostly based in the more mild south-east part. Let's hope England don't get group G...I imagine many other European countries will be hoping for the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 They'll disappear up their corporate arses one day trying to artificially manipulate the draw to suit advertisers, TV, sponsors and whoever bribed Septic sausageter the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted December 3, 2013 Author Share Posted December 3, 2013 I think they add a team to pot 2 but then take some out and make a pot x or summit England are in an unseeded pot of European countries but could still be moved ahead of Friday's draw for the 2014 Fifa World Cup. Roy Hodgson's side are included in Pot 4, along with eight other European teams, for the draw in Brazil. Beforehand, one of those teams will be drawn into Pot 2, and will face one of the four South American seeds. Brazil start in Sao Paulo Hosts Brazil will be allocated position A1 in Friday's draw and will play the opening match in Sao Paulo on 12 June. No more than two European teams, or one from South America, can be drawn in the same group for next year's competition. If England are moved to Pot 2, which contains seven African and South American teams, they would be guaranteed to face either Brazil, Argentina, Colombia or Uruguay, who will form a temporary "Pot X". The three South American teams in "Pot X" not drawn against the European team in Pot 2 will go back into the main draw. Should England remain in Pot 4, they could face any of the top eight seeds from Pot 1. As hosts, Brazil will be automatically placed into Group A and the rest of the teams in each pot will be drawn into one of the eight four-team groups, bearing in mind the geographic stipulations. "It's not easy to understand it the first time, I agree with you," said Fifa general secretary Jerome Valcke at a news conference in Costa do Sauipe where Friday's draw will take place. "It took me some time to be sure I had the right explanation." Hodgson has said that England's base is more important than who they will face in the World Cup. Pot 1 (top eight seeds): Brazil, Spain, Argentina, Belgium, Colombia, Germany, Switzerland, Uruguay Pot 2: Ivory Coast, Ghana, Algeria, Nigeria, Cameroon, Chile, Ecuador Pot 3: Japan, Iran, South Korea, Australia, United States, Mexico, Costa Rica, Honduras Pot 4: Bosnia-Hercegovina, Croatia, England, Greece, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal, Russia, France Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 All fairly straightforward then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ariotofmyown Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Apparently no more than 2 nations from the same continent can be in the same group.. There are no South Americans in pot 3 or 4 and no Europeans in pot 2 or 3.. So all should be fairly easy and straight forward as it's impossible to have more than 2 from each continent anyway.. I'd love England to get a hard draw.. A group containing Germany, Chile and USA would be lovely.. If we're going to guess.. I'm going for.. Belgium, Cameroon, Honduras, England.. And we'll top the group with 2 wins and 1 draw Off the top of my head, the last 2-3 tournaments we've had easy groups and played really poorly to scrape through, then got knocked out as soon as we play someone good. One outcome of this is we've played about 4-5 top teams in competition in the last 8 years. I know our team was different but in Korea/Japan we were in the 'group of death' and romped it. Think I'd like this again. Having to give it everything against 2-3 top teams seems much more fun than struggling to do anything vs more mediocre opposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'd want Switzerland, Algeria and Iran or Australia in a perfect world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maydrakin Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 For the first seeded non-European team, they will receive 2 teams from pot 4 and not get a pot 2 team. This will give a fair spread of teams across each group. That means we could draw Italy and Brazil in our group... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 This is a farce. They should seed the top 8 so they avoid each other, then the rest should be straight out of the hat. So what if England draw Germany or Cameroon draw Ghana in the group stages, surely that makes the group games more exciting. You're always going to get games people won't be interested in, that's the nature of the game, but why such a convoluted process when it should be as simple as Group A, pull a seeded team out, and then three randoms, Group B, pull a seeded team out, and then three randoms... and so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froggg Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Apparently no more than 2 nations from the same continent can be in the same group.. There are no South Americans in pot 3 or 4 and no Europeans in pot 2 or 3.. So all should be fairly easy and straight forward as it's impossible to have more than 2 from each continent anyway.. I'd love England to get a hard draw.. A group containing Germany, Chile and USA would be lovely.. If we're going to guess.. I'm going for.. Belgium, Cameroon, Honduras, England.. And we'll top the group with 2 wins and 1 draw Belgium would whoop us Bris, and are my outside bet for the tournament.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 I'd rather a tough group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuff264 Posted December 4, 2013 Author Share Posted December 4, 2013 If they left it purely to chance, a la fa cup, I think it would be far more entertaining creating some groups with all the best teams and then some made up of lesser teams but giving them a chance to progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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