alram
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15 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:
Here's the words I apparently put in your mouth...
Here's the quote I was referring to...
No need to respond. I'll not be seeing your posts moving forwards.
"to let him go" as in if we were to let him go
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2 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:
You're criticising the club for not signing players outside of the window and for not 'fighting' to secure their signatures when A) they may not want to be here and B) have not been confirmed as having left. Despite this, you seem surprised that folk are calling you out. Why?
no im not
again people putting words in my mouth
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2 hours ago, Foreveram said:
You’re concerned that we haven’t bought anyone in the transfer window that isn’t open yet🤷♂️
i never said i was concerned by lack of signings, i said i was concerned by the seemingly departure of our better players
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56 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:
I really can’t be bothered arguing the point any more. You think everything looks rubbish, I think there’s reason to be optimistic, let’s agree to disagree and we can compare notes and have an “I told you so” moment if and when one of us is proved correct.
i wont ever tell you so if it proves bad news for derby, that is childish i only want us to do well and i am just sharing my concerns
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1 hour ago, Caerphilly Ram said:
1) As yet we are rumoured to be losing our top goalscorer from last season upon the expiry of his contract. Nothing definite has happened yet. You make out like we’ve lost all of the players in the squad, Davies, Stearman, Chester have all been released and are replaceable. Dobbin, Roberts, Springett and White returned to their parent clubs….and are replaceable.
2) We do have the budget to replace him, we signed him last year and paid his wages, if he leaves we will sign other strikers and pay their wages. We’ve heard from the club over the last season that we were well within the agreed terms of the business plan and have performed better than expected against budget. We’ve also heard we are able to pay fees again….There’s only one person here ignoring things and it’s not me.
3) What evidence can you offer that there isn’t a “fight” to keep McGoldrick? The club will offer what works best for the club in terms of wages, contract length, playing guarantees etc. If he, a grown man with his own wants and needs, makes a decision to leave then that is up to him.
So yes, at a point when the club is on a sound financial footing, we have a head of recruitment in place who has spotted gems in the past, a manager with the backing of the chairman with what resources we do have, and essentially a clean(ish) slate for recruitment this summer BEFORE the transfer window has even opened, I do wonder why some people are so pessimistic. If we get to 2:59pm on the first day of the season and the squad hasn’t been strengthened maybe I’ll have some concerns. Until then I think people need to find some perspective, losing a 35 year old striker on the back of 1 very good season is very unlikely to be the scenario to ruin this club. We’ve survived worse as a fan base.
your 1 ) point, have you seen how thin our squad has been this season? you just named 8 more players that need to be replaced on top of what we already need. now knight is likely going too, make it 9.
of course every player is replaceable, but i think a few need to wake up that we are not in a position financially to be losing our better players
just nothing is filling me with confidence that all, a lot of red flags at the minute. as you say it is early on in the summer and you are right we have survived worse. i am just saying it as i see it and not burrying my head in the sand which a lot of people seem to be doing, 1 goes its okay, 2 its okay, 3 its okay... etc etc etc. warne has a big job on and he will be under pressure to deliver. i dont want to linger in this awful league, none of the signs are pointing to a positive season so far
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1 hour ago, Caerphilly Ram said:
We’re not giving up our best players, his contract is expiring and we are in negotiations with him. If he chooses to go elsewhere that’s up to him, the club will offer the terms it feels appropriate to offer and if he moves on so be it. None of us are privy to the discussions between player and club, nor do we know his motivations. If and when David McGoldrick makes a decision on his future I’m sure we’ll get a bit more of a picture, the rest is just speculation and boredom. If he goes and we haven’t replaced him by the time the season starts then maybe I’ll worry, until then I’ll be patient and wait to see what unfolds.
As to your other point, what worrying signs are there to have come from a summer in which the transfer window is yet to open and we’ve been linked with a bunch of players? We’ve also been told the club can spend fees again. I really don’t get how pessimistic some people can be when in reality nothing has happened yet. Other than our position in the football leagues the club is allegedly the healthiest it has been in a long time, there’s some good people in charge making sensible decisions with a clear idea of keeping the club sustainable in the long term, try looking at the positives as well as the prospect of losing a 35 year old striker for reasons you can’t control.
we are losing our best players and you wonder why people are pessimistic ? really?
i think people are just ignoring the red flags personally, 35 years old or not he is our best player and has carried us this season. we dont have the budget to replace him
to let him go without a fight is massive mistake in my opinion
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13 minutes ago, The Last Post said:
And so are their teams, He's 35 if he signs then fare play, If he moves on...so be it 🤷♀️
youll have to excuse me which one of these is getting sold to a championship team with no budget to replace them?
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9 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:
No need to panic anyway. The guy is 35 and I seriously doubt Warne wanted to go in to next season with us completely reliant on him to score the bulk of our goals.
His body will give up at some point, if he wants a final fling with the club he supports then fine. We can direct his wages, which would be at the top end of what we are willing or able to pay, elsewhere.
It's one player, we'll get over it.
you are right on the face of it
my concern comes from :
a) we were completely reliant on him to score the bulk of our goals
b) our lack of freedom in the transfer market to actually replace him adequately
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1 hour ago, Caerphilly Ram said:
You seem very keen to paint this in a wholly negative light, ignoring all the facts out there that back up McGoldrick may want to play for Notts. He started his career there, perhaps he sees it as poetic to end his career there. We can’t hold him to ransom.
IF it happens I don’t find it embarrassing, he had a one year contract, we’re allegedly in discussions over a new deal, if he chooses not to sign it and move on THAT IS HIS CHOICE. How would you feel if the club was to pay over the odds to convince a 35 year old to stay here?
The only thing that’s genuinely embarrassing in all of this is the inability of adults to control their emotions about the whole thing.its just all a bit tin pot isnt it?
make our best player feel wanted so he wants to stay. it is not a geographically thing, its not a footballing thing. we arent going to be "paying over the odds" because notts arent coming in with more money than us are they ?
for me there are worrying signs coming from this summer so far, we shouldnt be giving up on our best players when we are still under a business plan
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19 hours ago, Gabby'sThighs said:
I was expecting Knight - plus Sibley & Bird - to have a big impact in L1, and it rarely happened. Solid footballers but they disappointed overall, especially considering the quality of some of the opposition. I know Sibley and Knight often played as fullbacks but they only managed six league goals between the three of them!
Given the Knight contract situation, and the fact the squad needs 8-10 players, moving him on is the only option. Hopefully they can get £2m for Knight and the same again for Bielik, which would fund a load of free transfers.
people were talking about some of our players being able to play for mid table Premier League sides earlier in the aeason
they Are league one players no more, the fee will be reflected in that
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9 hours ago, Leeds Ram said:
Not sure why McGoldrick would drop a division to play in league 2 for Notts County. It would be more than strange given how he dominated the division last season.
Yeah but he’s a die hard Notts fan who’s desperate to play for them apparently
lets be honest here it’s an embarrassing situation and slightly worrying going forward that we are losing our best players to teams the division below
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1 minute ago, David said:
Oh come on what, have a word with yourself here, he didn’t have to say he was a fan of anyone, do you not see that?
We’ve signed players from Forest before and it’s never been discussed or been an issue, Kris Commons for example.
You choose to believe what you want, Santa Clause is real, tooth fairy’s exist and McGoldrick is a Forest fan if it helps you sleep better at night, the rest of us will believe what the man himself says that he’s a Notts County fan.
good for you, as i just said believe what you want to believe
this is exactly why he probably clarified he wasnt a forest fan because people will get overly emotional about it
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2 minutes ago, Scott129 said:
He turned down Championship offers to sign with us. So it's clearly not all about playing at the highest level.
maybe but he is already living locally, its not like he would sign for them so he could be closer to home
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Just now, David said:
Hardly going to say he’s a Notts County fan when he’s a Forest fan either, I mean no offence to your grandkids, I just think they have this one wrong and I choose to believe the man himself.
oh come on if he came in and said he was a forest fan and then underperformed everyone would just call him blind
you can think i have it wrong all you want, i know hes a forest fan you can believe what you want to believe
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2 minutes ago, Scott129 said:
Strongly disagree.
He's at the end of his career, he's probably done most of what he wanted to achieve (realistically), and I imagine he's made a fair bit of money whilst doing it.
To finish your career at the club you support is something that I think a lot of players would jump at. If anything, it probably speaks volumes about the type of character he is that it's not just about getting the biggest paycheck, or who's in the highest league.
hes playing for the nearest team to his house and he will want to play at the highest level possible, it would be embarrasing to lose our best player to a team in the division below, i dont particularly care about the circumstances
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1 minute ago, David said:
He says otherwise.
“I’m a Nottingham boy so I know the history and I know the rivalry they have with Nottingham Forest, but Derby County is a great club. I’m a Notts County fan myself but I know all about how much this is a big club and have watched many over the years such as Paulo Wanchope and Fabrizio Ravanelli and I know about all the great strikers that have been here already.”
hardly going to say hes a forest fan just as hes signed for derby is he
i dont care that he is a forest fan, makes no difference to me but he is one
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On 02/06/2023 at 09:57, TuffLuff said:
Had a think about this question over a few days and I think I’ve come to the conclusion that while I expect us to be challenging near the top, I’m not too bothered about promotion. I mean if it happens then great, I’d be ecstatic but a few things bother me.
1) I want us to be a sustainable club, I don’t want us to have a chairman who’s having to throw thousands, if not millions, into the club just to keep us afloat or chasing a near impossible dream. We are a community club and I don’t want us to have an idea that the finances of the club are an ownership problem rather than an overall problem we need to keep an eye on.
2) I want us to have an achievable plan in place to build something. We might have this already in place internally but I want us to have a plan to build something over x amount of seasons rather than just getting to the championship and then going from there.
3) I have great concerns for the football pyramid as a whole, I can’t see the point in being a championship team with more overheads, trying to get to the prem where the gap between the have and have nots gets ever bigger.
Yes I’d love promotions and getting back to being a big club again, but I also like local ownership and I want us to be steady and stable. We need to be careful what we wish for and think about what’s next and how it’s going to be achieved as much as just having expectations.
you can achieve all those things in the championship
we have no place in league one, the longer we stay in this division the less relevant and smaller we will become as the gimmick quickly fades away of being at this level
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22 hours ago, David said:
I’m pretty relaxed over it all, end of the day, he’s not a player we should be relying on to play week in week out going into next season. We was extremely lucky to get what we got out of him last season, you can’t expect that again out of his legs.
Of course I would love him to stay, play a role, however I wouldn’t be devastated if he chose to end his career at the club he supports and where it all started, that’s something which money can’t buy.
In the same position, I’d probably join Notts County if I was him.
hes a forest fan, my grandkids go to the same school as his kids and they are all forest supporters
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this is a real reality check for me how low we are in the food chain that people are even debating whether he would go to notts county over us
the fact is hes our best player and it would be embarrasing to lose him to notts county
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top 6 with a challenge on the top 2 as a bonus
if we dont get the top 6 this season it will be a disaster, warne has to deliver now
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I would love Clark Harris
I think we need another top striker considering mcgoldricks age, we have to play for the worst
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aren’t forest in the papa johns now?
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watch out tomsdub you will get abused all day for daring to suggest things don't look rosey such is the way of this place