kevinhectoring

whether or not he meant to hit him, whether or not he did hit him, the fact is JC did something that would lead to a sending off by many of the best refs in the land. (Guy next to me was looking straight at him and the moment it happened said ‘red’.) Such a shame, works really hard, scores a goal Haarland would be proud of ... then that
As for Hourihane’s hand ball, by the time they’re his age most footballers have learned not to do anything that idiotic 
On the other ‘big decision’, the first penalty, what the ref did was pretty textbook: think, speak to the lino, who was close and had a clear view, then follow his advice. Not sure whether it was a pen and in retrospect the lino may not have had the best angle. But no one should be surprised by the ref’s thought process or the lino’s view
(yes apart from those there was a bunch of bad decisions)
the only thing the club should appeal is Stearman’s yellow (if that’s possible)

Well, there's certainly been a Crimea.
Theft of a match day thread.

it's amazing that players aren't told not to fall into his traps. His stock ruse is to show the oppo the ball then, when they go for it, to step between the two of them and get shoved in the back. He's got excellent balance and very quick feet so it's the easiest thing, and the ref has no choice. I think we've seen it 50 times 

it's amazing that players aren't told not to fall into his traps. His stock ruse is to show the oppo the ball then, when they go for it, to step between the two of them and get shoved in the back. He's got excellent balance and very quick feet so it's the easiest thing, and the ref has no choice. I think we've seen it 50 times 

Cashin could easily have been sent off last week.  

He’s becoming a fabulous footballer but he’s virtually a schoolboy and needs to focus on his improvement - don’t burden him with leadership roles 

It’s not a burden to the right person. Bellingham is captaining Dortmund at 19 and still constantly improving. 

No a crap ref got him the red.

Wildsmith         6.5
Chester            6.5
Stearman           6
Roberts              6.5
Cashin                7
Mendez-Laing    6
Knight                 6
Bird                   5.5
Sibley                5.5
Hourihane          5
Barkhuizen        7
Dobbin               7
Collins                7.5 - 2 
Osula                6

I’ve said it before but why the hell are ours so pathetic?
There is about four of them, often too scared to go on the pitch to, you know, retrieve the ball.
We are losing a game and we allow their players or GK to wander down to the corner flag to get a ball as there isn’t a single ballboy in sight.
Get 10 of them around the pitch, inside the advertising boards and get the ball into our players ASAP.
All the little things makes a difference.

But if PW has to wait 'til January to sort it out, what was the point of bringing him in?  LR would likely have us playing to his pattern and being well set for the Play-offs by January.  I thought PW was brought in to hurry the promotion challenge, not slow it down.  In the fantasy world of us being in the Championship next year it's hard to see compelling reasons to want PW to push us higher given his record, and style of play.
Re last questions - The EFL Trophy is a standalone competition for disciplinary purposes.  Suspensions do include the League Cup and FA Cup (though that's not relevant in this case).

And rightly so after only spending 4 out of 130 odd seasons in this division.

I am sure Ipswich, Sunderland and the likes of Portsmouth thought they were too good for League 1 but are/were stuck there for quite a while. We have no divine right to go up.

He’s becoming a fabulous footballer but he’s virtually a schoolboy and needs to focus on his improvement - don’t burden him with leadership roles 

On the subject of linesmen, and the massive offside missed just before their first goal : The lino below the east stand had the sun in his face and was running the line trying to shield his eyes with one hand. He looked like a sailor on lookout in a gender fluid farce. The PV right wing was about 4 yards offside. 
Why would linesmen not be issued with baseball caps so that they have a chance of doing their job when this happens? And if they don’t have one, why wouldn’t they just ask someone - anyone - for one ?

We did sort of play the game PV wanted us to though.
 
Warne probably knows it already:  Rotherham fans were elated every time he got them out of this division. Most derby fans simply expect it 

Hourihane thinks his job is to take free kicks and corners and to show the odd moment of brilliance if someone gets the ball to him in space. Otherwise he slows up play (we were transitioning better and more quickly today especially in the first half, until the ball got to him) and saunters around. We started with 10.5 and ended with 9.5 players. Doesn’t work 

On the subject of linesmen, and the massive offside missed just before their first goal : The lino below the east stand had the sun in his face and was running the line trying to shield his eyes with one hand. He looked like a sailor on lookout in a gender fluid farce. The PV right wing was about 4 yards offside. 
Why would linesmen not be issued with baseball caps so that they have a chance of doing their job when this happens? And if they don’t have one, why wouldn’t they just ask someone - anyone - for one ?

6 swings and everyone a miss, The draft from the swings floored Hunter ?

The fact that a PV defender who was 5 yards away rushed to the ‘victim’s’ defence and shoved Collins backwards supports your view. Would he do that if JC were slapping the ground in frustration ?

On the subject of linesmen, and the massive offside missed just before their first goal : The lino below the east stand had the sun in his face and was running the line trying to shield his eyes with one hand. He looked like a sailor on lookout in a gender fluid farce. The PV right wing was about 4 yards offside. 
Why would linesmen not be issued with baseball caps so that they have a chance of doing their job when this happens? And if they don’t have one, why wouldn’t they just ask someone - anyone - for one ?

On the subject of linesmen, and the massive offside missed just before their first goal : The lino below the east stand had the sun in his face and was running the line trying to shield his eyes with one hand. He looked like a sailor on lookout in a gender fluid farce. The PV right wing was about 4 yards offside. 
Why would linesmen not be issued with baseball caps so that they have a chance of doing their job when this happens? And if they don’t have one, why wouldn’t they just ask someone - anyone - for one ?

On the subject of linesmen, and the massive offside missed just before their first goal : The lino below the east stand had the sun in his face and was running the line trying to shield his eyes with one hand. He looked like a sailor on lookout in a gender fluid farce. The PV right wing was about 4 yards offside. 
Why would linesmen not be issued with baseball caps so that they have a chance of doing their job when this happens? And if they don’t have one, why wouldn’t they just ask someone - anyone - for one ?

Hourihane thinks his job is to take free kicks and corners and to show the odd moment of brilliance if someone gets the ball to him in space. Otherwise he slows up play (we were transitioning better and more quickly today especially in the first half, until the ball got to him) and saunters around. We started with 10.5 and ended with 9.5 players. Doesn’t work 

Hourihane thinks his job is to take free kicks and corners and to show the odd moment of brilliance if someone gets the ball to him in space. Otherwise he slows up play (we were transitioning better and more quickly today especially in the first half, until the ball got to him) and saunters around. We started with 10.5 and ended with 9.5 players. Doesn’t work