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59 minutes ago, CodnorRam said:

We signed anyone yet?

I'd be surprised if we do.

Wash and Waggy are allegedly back soon so makes no sense to add unless we think Gayle or Joao will drastically improve us. 

Personally i'd happily bring another in but thats because i don't rate Wash or Waggy.

9 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Maybe but he wanted to leave and so he did

@MadAmster I think Rowett has shown that counter attack football is his way. 
 
I don’t blame him for signing Huddleston, Davies etc. Mel had a reputation for sacking quickly so why would GR plan for the future? 
 
Anyway we digress, I think ultimately some fans will never warm to Warne even if he got us to the prem. He’s shown during his career to be a good Lg1 manager, but whether he’s a good fit for Derby is up for debate (which has been done over and over again).

2-1 Derby (CBT 1st goal scorer). 

I think if we do go up Warne must be praised as its mission accomplished.

However Warneball is up there with the worst football I've seen at Derby. Although i will acknowledge that maybe myself and others are so down on PW as we probably expect to go up. Maybe if he had us 17th in the Championship next season playing Warneball me and others wouldn't be quite as critical. 

Although maybe that last sentence is rubbish because half the forum couldn't stand Rowett (I could) and he had us top 6. 

I do think sadly promotion or no promotion Warne's time here will never be looked upon too fondly. He seemed to have fans against him from the start and now i'd say at least 1/3 of the fan base either despise his football or want hm gone. Sad for everyone really.

After 30 odd games it’s in no coincidence or luck we’re in the running for promotion. You don’t get there by fluking wins. 
 
But we do seem to win in spite of ourselves as opposed to blowing teams away or crushing them with our sheer class. 
 
Think ultimately our season will hinge on the results against the teams in the top 8. Win more than we lose = good chance of autos. Win a couple, lose a couple = play offs, lose them all = 7th place again?

Think we’ll churn out the same level of performance, think results depend on whether the opposition can match us in the dirty part of the game or not.

13 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

Judging by the reaction to this result, I think I’ll be all alone in the away end on Tuesday.

It’s disappointing to drop two points, but as we have seen that’s the norm for sides in our position. Why some people think we should be above it is beyond me.

Some people just fail to take any kind of perspective from the game. Look at the outpouring of anger after a draw. Can you imagine the reaction if we were getting hammered at home by Orient like Pompey were a few short weeks ago? Or getting whipped by Wycombe and conceding five like Peterborough today? I dread to think what it would be like if that was us.

Every game is a potential trip hazard at this stage and teams will do their very best to disrupt us which it sounds like Shrewsbury did very well, similar to Cheltenham before them.

Every team in the run in will look to do the same. Exeter on Tuesday will look to do a job on us too and it will be another tricky game to negotiate. We will do well to win.

Every team in the mix will have games where they contrive to take a poor result from a winnable game. This time it was us. We have 15 games to play and there will be highs and lows, twists and turns, good performances and bad, good results and bad, but we have to stick by the team.

Fair assessment but not sure about good performances to come. We’ve not had more than 5 all season.

Thought we’d draw today and thought posh would lose. Bolton dropping points is a bonus, but Barnsley joining the autos race is a little annoying. 
 
Didn’t watch the match so can only go off comments from you guys and twitter. But it is concerning that home games are no longer the banker they were in previous seasons. Seems even when we win at home it’s bloody hard work. 
 
If we do go up whilst we’ll all be cockahoot. I wouldn’t describe this season as enjoyable.

Can't decide between 1-1 or 2-1 Derby.

Will be tight either way and i have a sneaking suspicion Wycombe might do a job on Posh.

I imagine all forums are the same.

I'd actually say the reason why ours can be so infuriating at times is because of the bigger fan base. Passionate fans who want to see Derby back fighting at the top. Also the fact that this forum is run to a very high standard and doesn't look like its ran on a potato.

Not sure what the blue card is trying to achieve other than cure the lack of respect in the game which would be nice but not at the cost of the fans enjoyment.

20 minutes ago, Topram said:

Shame ..any update on NML

Back on the grass tomorrow apparently so depends how much Warne wants to risk him for Saturday.

Everyone making the lame joke about Rotherham when there’s anal right there to be used.

2 hours ago, Tamworthram said:

Surely that all depends on the circumstances of him not scoring another goal. Him missing chances and the club relying on him solely are different issues. It’s not his fault that we don’t have enough striker opinions but equally it’s not the clubs fault if good chances were arriving at his feet or head and he kept missing them.

I think you’re confusing the team not scoring enough goals (which may not be Collin’s fault if he’s chipping in his “share” but the team are over relying on him) and him not scoring enough goals or another goal (which may be down to him if they were good goal scoring opportunities and for which he could be criticised).

Im not saying he’s free from criticism but I do think he’s been unfairly critiqued at times this season. 
 
Last year he underperformed and I had no hope that he would come good. However, this season he’s pulling his weight at the very least. 
 
I guess it’s a forum and everyone’s entitled to post on who and what they like. But I was just surprised to see his ability under the microscope when we’ve got players who have contributed far less and seem to go under the radar.

4 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

Depends on what you mean by “drops a stinker”. I have said only this morning that we need to recognise all the hard work he puts in but hard work alone shouldn’t be enough to exclude any player from fair and reasonable criticism. If he continues to work hard but misses a load of sitters or gets himself needlessly sent off in a critical game them I don’t see why we shouldn’t discuss his performance before the season he is out. 
 

Fair and reasonable criticism doesn’t mean we aren’t getting behind him. Same with any player. 

Fair enough I take your point,  but ultimately if he doesn’t score another goal this season, is that his fault? Or the clubs for relying on him solely?

I think discussions around his season and his future and maybe a review of his time here will be a lot more fruitful. I was just surprised to see this topic growing in posts when it’s irrelevant whether people like him or not now.

Sheffield Star reckons Joao is a freebie, so he would be my top pick on an initial 6 month deal. 
 
Do I think Warne will pursue the free agent option? No

Doesn’t matter now if he drops a stinker for the rest of the season and we drop out the play offs. Providing he gives 100% we have no right to moan at him. Not Collo’s fault our hopes and dreams hang pretty much on his shoulders alone.

Got to get behind him and then come the end of the season, win, lose or draw we can discuss his performance this season and whether or not he deserves a new contract.

FWIW I think Collo is an average to good league 1 striker. Do I think we could’ve attracted better or had better alternatives? Yes. But that’s history now. Let’s back him and hope CBT and Adams can improve us enough to get us over the line.

44 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

They tend to, so why would an owner put any incoming money in a pot to spend rather than reducing the losses he is funding?

Is that Portsmouth and Bolton have done this year? Impressive if they have with the signings they've made.

1 hour ago, Sparkle said:

If we are losing money every week then why do you think any money received will be going on more spending rather than reducing the losses ?

All clubs lose money, good luck running a club that’s self sufficient.

1 minute ago, StaffsRam said:

Or they may have thought that there'd be more competition for him in the summer. Probably clear to them yesterday that no one else was in for him so they saw a chance to get their man, signed, sealed and delivered now rather than face the cr*pshoot in the summer.

The deal works for all parties. The issue is when was the transfer completed?

I believe it was in the evening and then we asked for the announcement to be held off on the proviso we brought in a striker to soften the blow. If i'm wrong and the monies didn't transfer until past 11 then out of spite i'd have cancelled the deal and let them face a battle for his signature. However i have no evidence but i reckon i'm not far off with my theory.

26 minutes ago, ram59 said:

Like everyone else I'm disappointed that we couldn't get a striker over the line, but all this talk about the worst ever transfer window needs to be put into context.

Since the start of the window we have signed Nyambe, who we all feared would be on his bike. We did sign a striker in TJJ, who's fitness would have been assessed by the club or we could have let him go back to Arsenal spend the money on Smith only for him to possibly pick up an injury. Statistically, CBT seems to be an exciting signing which could go a long way to preventing burnout in players like NML. Likewise, Adams will hopefully give the midfield a boost.

Crucially we feared losing Cashin and/or. Bird for the run in, which hasn't happened. The extra money from Bird will go into the summer transfer pot.

Hopefully, we will soon see Washington and Waggy back and Brown benefiting from some adult game time when he returns.

I think that we were one, admittedly important, signing away from a good transfer window, but it could have been so much worse.

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26 minutes ago, ram59 said:

Like everyone else I'm disappointed that we couldn't get a striker over the line, but all this talk about the worst ever transfer window needs to be put into context.

Since the start of the window we have signed Nyambe, who we all feared would be on his bike. We did sign a striker in TJJ, who's fitness would have been assessed by the club or we could have let him go back to Arsenal spend the money on Smith only for him to possibly pick up an injury. Statistically, CBT seems to be an exciting signing which could go a long way to preventing burnout in players like NML. Likewise, Adams will hopefully give the midfield a boost.

Crucially we feared losing Cashin and/or. Bird for the run in, which hasn't happened. The extra money from Bird will go into the summer transfer pot.

Hopefully, we will soon see Washington and Waggy back and Brown benefiting from some adult game time when he returns.

I think that we were one, admittedly important, signing away from a good transfer window, but it could have been so much worse.

Okay the Bird money going in to the summer pot. But the league next season will be stronger. 

All 3 relegated teams will be up there, 5 of the current top 8 will be up there, Wrexham with their wonga and then the likes of Wigan and Reading if they get their acts together. IMO any funds would've been better spent yesterday at least partly to see if we can go up and avoid the royal rumble of next season. 

Song for Collins and our striker availbility.
 

There’s only one. James Collins. One. James Collins.

2 minutes ago, simmoram1995 said:

Bet we sign Dwight Gale on a free now 🤦‍♂️

Better than nowt. 
 
Which is a sentence that says it all.

3 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

Why is it an excuse?

Transfer plans sometimes come together and sometimes fall apart. There are failed transfers in every single window. Why get so worked up about this particular one?

If we have a business plan that we have to follow rigidly and stick to, then it’s an obvious factor in why other clubs can complete deals more smoothly and why it is more problematic for us.

The power is with the EFL and the conditions they have put in place and the clubs who will try to take advantage of such a situation.

Because we’re in a 4 horse race this season and next season it’ll be a 10 horse race.

Theres being positive and then theres being blind. 
  
So if Collins gets injured you think the predicament we’re in is acceptable?

Just now, Jourdan said:

Are Burton and Carlisle working under EFL business plans?

Did their outgoings (i.e. Moxon to Portsmouth) get completed today?

Why do you think Championship clubs like Bristol City and Wednesday are going to act in anything other than their own interests?

It doesn’t matter if you have a day or a month, it won’t stop clubs from trying to get deals that benefit them.

There’s no excuses chief. 
 
A club with our budget and expectations set by the manager himself shouldn’t be going in to the run in with 1 striker. If Collins gets injured on sat are we just supposed to shrug our shoulders and ruffle Pearce’s hair. “Don’t worry lad our seasons over, but you did have restrictions to adhered to”.