Chris_Martin

we're in league one.

well, yes. it's been going on for so long, and we all know the players are capable of better as the majority of the squad have been competant championship players. It therefore has to be the coaching, or lack of.
whats warne actually done ? can you list some things he's definetely improved? 
 

well, yes. it's been going on for so long, and we all know the players are capable of better as the majority of the squad have been competant championship players. It therefore has to be the coaching, or lack of.
whats warne actually done ? can you list some things he's definetely improved? 
 

Fine, lets say Elder is better than Roberts. My original point was the transfers were overall better last summer than they were this summer. Wouldn't you agree?

Had Rosenoir taken us up which I am 100% convinced he would have done either last season or this season, I would trust him 100% to find players of Championship ability.
On the miracle/fluke Warne Ball gets us up, do you trust him to be able to attract any decent players to this club? 

No, I think it’s important to be realistic with where we are, what restrictions we have been under, how long down the line into the rebuild we are, and what we can realistically deliver with this squad week in, week out.
We’re in a position where trade offs are always likely. The irony is if we played entertaining football and were integrating the youngsters but were 10th, in its own way it would be derided. Warne and Clowes can’t really win.
I think it’s a case of recency bias that you want to suggest this brand of football is worse than what came before. It really isn’t. The fact you want to call Rooney’s football ‘compelling’ tells me that you are very entrenched here.

He shouldn’t be on the ball that much. He should be playing at the base of a midfield 3, freeing Hourihane and Bird from defensive duty’s. Don’t care what anyone says, Hourihane and Bird are the best two midfielders in the league if played the correct way. 

Bolton have been really bad though. Even with 10 men they've been there for the taking at times.

And how would you stop players switching off in games? Maybe through coaching perhaps? by the coach? You know the job they're paid to do. 
It's not even true our players switch off anyway. Considering we got the majority of our players from the Championship, you're saying they just instantly lost they ability to stay switched on as soon as they got here? 

Sibley as detarated massively under Warne check his goal record at Pride Park under the Bobble hat comedian 😆 .
We've had numerous very lucky wins and we have been in a false position for a long time.
 
I think with a better manager and this squad  we would be top of the league and also playing good football.!!!
It's utter garbage tripe under Warne it's the worst I've seen in over 55 years following the Rams.
He's lost the dressing room that's why bird is going , why would you leave Pride Park for Bristol? I tell you why because he sees no future under the bobble hat comedian. 
 
We loose Collins and replace him with a 5ft 8 midget when we wanted a bloody No 9 ,the balls goes up it comes straight back .
His decision making is pathetic tales Corey off last when he's playing well and we had some control in midfield suddenly it all goes wrong. One shot on target 87mins need we say anymore.
He can't motivate them  full stop,  he's a clown  and don't get me on the 5000 Meerkat he wanted at Barnsley.
 
Out now and we will win promotion stay and we don't. 
 
You choose !!!

is that not the entire season summarised? 

We've lost back to back league games for the 3rd TIME UNDER WARNE.
We are 2nd in the table despite having to deal with a lack of attacking COACHING.
Yes, we would all like to see more flair, more attacking football, but we just don't have the MANAGER for it atm, our financial restrictions have limited US TO HAVING THE BEST SQUAD IN THE DIVISION and more importantly, IMO, who we were able to keep hold of.
I really wish we had played a 5 at the back last night with the lack of a left back being available, Sibley at LWB and Wilson at RWB would have given us more attacking options IMO, but he chose to play a 4 with Cashin at LB, a 4 that the vast majority are screaming for despite the personnel not being available. (Do you not think part of the problem is the constant changing of formations?)
No matter how poor the football is perceived to be by some, we ONLY lost to stupid, amateurish individual errors again, just like at the beginning of the season. (How did warne actually plan on scoring and winning this game other than getting a set piece or some good fortune from a cross ?  We created next to nothing and didn't even deserve to win it)
Is it Warnes fault that Wildsmith had another brainfart? We could see from the South stand that when the ball went forward he would never get there in time as he wasn't on his toes in anticipation, so he should have got close and stood his grd to make the player have to beat him. (It's warnes fault we're not controlling games at all, therefore letting our opponents run into our box)
Was it Warnes fault that the numerous mistakes from individuals cost us the 2nd goal, fgs, I came from us trying to pass it around at the back instead of launching it forwards (what most people complain about as Warne ball.... so it feels like all those moaners got what they deserved by trying to pass it around with league 1 players!). (Cashin, Nyambe, Bradley, Nelson, Vickers, Forsyth, Elder, Bird, Hourihane, Fornah, Adams, NML, Knight, Didzy, Smith, etc, have all come from playing championship football. They are not league 1 players)
I for 1 will be there on Saturday and give him my full support, despite not agreeing with some of his decisions,  after all, what do I know compared to the man that has us 2nd in the table? 
And for all those that say any other manager would have us 1st, prove it, Where's the evidence? Who's to say we wouldn't have lost more games? Or is it just your opinion, a bit like mine, so worthless other than being an opinion of a fan that has watched thousands of games but never had access to the inner workings of a club out of administration and the coaching badges to allow me to be on the training ground. (For you and anyone else saying warne isn't holding us back, prove it, wheres the evidence?)
 

We've lost back to back league games for the 3rd TIME UNDER WARNE.
We are 2nd in the table despite having to deal with a lack of attacking COACHING.
Yes, we would all like to see more flair, more attacking football, but we just don't have the MANAGER for it atm, our financial restrictions have limited US TO HAVING THE BEST SQUAD IN THE DIVISION and more importantly, IMO, who we were able to keep hold of.
I really wish we had played a 5 at the back last night with the lack of a left back being available, Sibley at LWB and Wilson at RWB would have given us more attacking options IMO, but he chose to play a 4 with Cashin at LB, a 4 that the vast majority are screaming for despite the personnel not being available. (Do you not think part of the problem is the constant changing of formations?)
No matter how poor the football is perceived to be by some, we ONLY lost to stupid, amateurish individual errors again, just like at the beginning of the season. (How did warne actually plan on scoring and winning this game other than getting a set piece or some good fortune from a cross ?  We created next to nothing and didn't even deserve to win it)
Is it Warnes fault that Wildsmith had another brainfart? We could see from the South stand that when the ball went forward he would never get there in time as he wasn't on his toes in anticipation, so he should have got close and stood his grd to make the player have to beat him. (It's warnes fault we're not controlling games at all, therefore letting our opponents run into our box)
Was it Warnes fault that the numerous mistakes from individuals cost us the 2nd goal, fgs, I came from us trying to pass it around at the back instead of launching it forwards (what most people complain about as Warne ball.... so it feels like all those moaners got what they deserved by trying to pass it around with league 1 players!). (Cashin, Nyambe, Bradley, Nelson, Vickers, Forsyth, Elder, Bird, Hourihane, Fornah, Adams, NML, Knight, Didzy, Smith, etc, have all come from playing championship football. They are not league 1 players)
I for 1 will be there on Saturday and give him my full support, despite not agreeing with some of his decisions,  after all, what do I know compared to the man that has us 2nd in the table? 
And for all those that say any other manager would have us 1st, prove it, Where's the evidence? Who's to say we wouldn't have lost more games? Or is it just your opinion, a bit like mine, so worthless other than being an opinion of a fan that has watched thousands of games but never had access to the inner workings of a club out of administration and the coaching badges to allow me to be on the training ground. (For you and anyone else saying warne isn't holding us back, prove it, wheres the evidence?)
 

We have a squad way above average (possibly the best?) in a division that is dreadful.
I honestly believe we're second in the league in spite of Paul Warne, not because of him. 
Someone like Nathan Jones, whether you like him or not, would have us top of this division as we'd see games out.
And we wouldn't have the best Centre Half at the club playing left back

I've been saying all season, we are picking up points in spite of warne, not because of him

Explain why the team has got gradually worse since Warne has been here then. Shouldn't it be the opposite? He's been here 51 games now, which is long enough to demonstrate some sort of progression. 

I've switched opinions after this game. Something needs to change:
It's too late in the season to change the players. The manager wont change the tactics, so it's time to change the manager.
 
We're walking into another season in League 1 and I think everyone can see it. If there's people out there who think that's acceptable then I'm not going to argue with them, but just state my opinion: I can't see us gong anywhere like this. We're second by virtue of Barnsley and Boltons inadequacies, not our own strength.

Yes, we were terrible tonight. 
We were absolutely dire for 60 minutes. 
Nobody is asking for total football, but we're getting the worst brand of football I've seen at Derby. It's crap. There is no entertainment. We aren't bringing through youth, we are building towards a style and getting better, we're all over the place. 
Being second is not a compliment to Warne, and more a criticism to every other side. We're not a good team.