Chris_Martin

You mean the marriott that scored one and was so close to getting another?
Or the marriott that came on and completely changed the play off v leeds with 2 goals?
 

I think Lampard probably would’ve still left, but how do you know we wouldn’t resign Mount and Tomori on loan again? Wasn’t a deal already lined up to sign Wilson permanently?

I remember seeing some pictures/videos at the time which suggested it was literally just Mel and Pearce on their own in a room.

that was sheff utd that scored that 'goal'
Villa finished 11th that season, almost 30 points clear of relegation

You mean the marriott that scored one and was so close to getting another?
Or the marriott that came on and completely changed the play off v leeds with 2 goals?
 

You mean the marriott that scored one and was so close to getting another?
Or the marriott that came on and completely changed the play off v leeds with 2 goals?
 

You mean the marriott that scored one and was so close to getting another?
Or the marriott that came on and completely changed the play off v leeds with 2 goals?
 

I'm pretty sure they scored a goal at Sheff Utd at the end of their first season that kept them up, that with goal line technology would have relegated them as it didn't go in.  Get the luck sometimes as well. 

I know Villa were better but it was a one-off game.  What if they lost the semi final on penalties? For them to be in the CL 5 seasons later, just makes you wonder. Where would we be now? Would Mel still be here? etc.

Anyone one else think of the 2019 POF every time they see Villa and where they are? Where would be be now if we'd won that game? I wonder if they even think about it at all.

He scored and had one cleared off the line in his 25-30 minutes on the pitch. Prior to that Mings was stood on the halfway line taking a s*** whilst reading the paper.  Villa were good on the day, but there job was made a lot easier with erratic defensive work caused by nothing up front and the ball constantly being recycled

Hi, no

2mins before kick off and the only perfect prediction.
 
I call shenanigans! Who gave you access to the final day script?

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Bird

A pretty good analysis, Jono, although Warne was obsessing about getting lots of crosses in before our midfield deficiencies became apparent. And in many ways our midfield deficiencies was largely because he kept playing a 2-man midfield, but without a ball-winner in there. Oh, and by-passing it whenever possible.

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Thompson

"Players lose you games, not tactics"

There seems to be an increasing narrative on here that Warne's last stint in the Championship was a success & somehow negates the 3 relegations he'd previously suffered at that level.
Below is the Championship table as at 17th September 2022 - 5 days before he left Rotherham for Derby. Rotherham were in 8th place & had won 3 out of 9 games - all at home. A decent start sure but reality is they were still only 4 points above the bottom 3 & very far from demonstrating they would have been able to survive that full season under Warne.
To show just how this table is misleading in predicting performance over a full season, Wigan were only one point behind Rotherham at that stage but were ultimately comfortably relegated (even if they hadn't been deducted 6 points). Same situation with Reading who sit in 3rd at this stage with 18 points but only accrued another 32 points on the pitch from the last 36 games. On the flip side, Coventry sit bottom here but ended up in the playoff final.
I would also ponder the question that if Rotherham had looked so strong at that point, why would he have considered dropping a division & not wait for an offer from a bigger fellow Championship club? That's what Steven Schumacher did this year swapping another small yo/yo club in Plymouth for a better resourced gig at Stoke.

is that not warne's football in a nutshell?

it makes me angry that we'd even have to think about this

What did they do that was 'horrible'. Well their defence looked fairly 'horrible' true. From that first early mess up where they nearly scored an own goal. But what else did they do that was 'horrible'?

The White House?

Glad I saved my tenner lads. Even talking to the wife couldn’t have been half as tedious as the game you have been describing.