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Quite. While we may not be obliged to sell in the same way that we have over the last couple of years, (i.e. prize assets being picked off by the vultures for peanuts just so we can keep the lights on) but we do have to sell if he won't extend or he will be end up being worth nothing and just walks away. I like him and wish we could keep hold of him but I think it's been the widely accepted belief that if we don't go up then he'll be off and that is looking increasingly likely as our form has nose-dived.
Expecting any more than low millions is just fantasy I'm afraid and might depend on multiple parties being interested to even get that. Sadly we will probably have to get what we can while he is still worth something as an asset rather than a free agent. We'll badly miss his energy in this team as it stands though.

If I am Jason Knight, not David the Derby fan, I’m not signing a new contract with Derby unless we go up this season.
Year left on my deal, the club won’t want to lose me for nothing so will accept a reasonable offer which would be under £5m given the League and contract situation.
It’s a short career, will be plenty of takers out there and a better contract than Derby can offer in the current situation and playing at a higher level.
Would be incredible to see him sign a new contract without promotion, I just don’t see it happening though, no guarantee we’ll go up next season either.
Ok he says he loves it here and playing under Warne, these are standard lines you would expect to hear out of any player at your club so I don’t read too much into them. Heard it so many times before it doesn’t mean much.

Hopefully we have tied him up for another year but I can't see that he will want to stay if (as seems likely) we continue drift out of promotion contention. If that's the case then we just have to do what we can to get a fair fee. We may not be in massive steaming pile of financial do-do's these days but we are not going to be able to turn down any half-decent offer due to his contract situation. We absolutely cannot allow him to just walk away for nowt. I'd really really like him to stay but we need to get something in the bank for developing him as a player, even if we are not allowed to spend it yet.

Hopefully we have tied him up for another year but I can't see that he will want to stay if (as seems likely) we continue drift out of promotion contention. If that's the case then we just have to do what we can to get a fair fee. We may not be in massive steaming pile of financial do-do's these days but we are not going to be able to turn down any half-decent offer due to his contract situation. We absolutely cannot allow him to just walk away for nowt. I'd really really like him to stay but we need to get something in the bank for developing him as a player, even if we are not allowed to spend it yet.

Same for me really. Whatever you make of events surrounding Max's first win, and whoever you support, it was undeniably exciting because it was close. Last weekend Max starts in 15th and strolled (see what I did there) back into 2nd without ever really needing to do much more than point the car down the track and he was ultimately only thwarted by another unbelievably quick Red Bull. Even after the safety car they just drove off into the distance. The gulf is absolutely vast at the moment and it's just not that entertaining for anyone who isn't a Verstappen devotee.

Is this different from another team dominating ? No, clearly not, but whoever our favourite drivers and teams are I'm assuming that we can probably all agree that we'd like to actually see some properly competitive racing occasionally. Unfortunately we've just swapped one period of complete dominance for another. I don't even mind if it isn't Lewis and Mercedes, I'd just like to see a real battle at the front not this current procession. God knows what Ferrari are up to...

Same for me really. Whatever you make of events surrounding Max's first win, and whoever you support, it was undeniably exciting because it was close. Last weekend Max starts in 15th and strolled (see what I did there) back into 2nd without ever really needing to do much more than point the car down the track and he was ultimately only thwarted by another unbelievably quick Red Bull. Even after the safety car they just drove off into the distance. The gulf is absolutely vast at the moment and it's just not that entertaining for anyone who isn't a Verstappen devotee.

Is this different from another team dominating ? No, clearly not, but whoever our favourite drivers and teams are I'm assuming that we can probably all agree that we'd like to actually see some properly competitive racing occasionally. Unfortunately we've just swapped one period of complete dominance for another. I don't even mind if it isn't Lewis and Mercedes, I'd just like to see a real battle at the front not this current procession. God knows what Ferrari are up to...

Perhaps understandably there's a lot being made of squad size and fatigue but lets be honest here, we were making absolutely basic errors pretty much from kickoff. We didn't run out of steam and fade as we have had a tendency to do recently. Regardless of how much fatigue may play a part in our run-in, that was simply woeful from the off.

The stadium size decision is a really tricky one. On the one hand you don't want to expand too modestly in case you need to do it again but on the other hand if things are not going so well then you absolutely don't want to have your fans rattling around a half empty stadium.
Pitching a capacity at the PL is all well and good but as a team that has not been near the top flight for a while, it's a bit of a gamble for them and you can suddenly find yourself entertaining 400 away fans on a Tuesday night back in the Championship plus the inevitable midweek dip in home fans, even if they have paid for STs.
If Forest went with a 50k option then you can't help but feel that is really too big and they'd regret it as it would kill home atmosphere. Some folk might argue for much bigger capacity on the grounds of ambition and certainly you'll get some new fans as we did when we moved and hugely upgraded facilities, particularly for female fans, but I'd rather have a ground that was generally pretty full than always well below capacity.
In recent decades their crowds have been similar to ours with 30k being a very decent crowd. Not having a pop here but I just don't see them finding anywhere near 20k on top of that even in the PL. For what its worth I think all those years ago we got it about right and that was a decent effort based on projections of numbers from the switch from the  much lower capacity BBG. If we ever get back to the top flight it will probably feel a bit restricted but making the stadium over half as big again would seem a bit excessive.
Leeds has a pop of around 780,000 and Elland Road is what, about 38k ? I think they have talked of expanding that but even so, Nottingham's population is under 300k. Surely a stadium much bigger than 40k runs the risk of being a bit of a white elephant.

The other reason that I'd definitely want to keep playoffs is that particularly in the Championship with teams with big wads of parachute payments, is the bigger danger is that the automatic slots get locked out by teams with lots of resources, looking 'bounce back' to the top flight. Having a top 6 at least gives a better chance of someone with more modest resources just having a good season. Once you are in the playoffs then its a bit of a lottery even if there are still favourites and dark horses. A full season and limited automatic-only places tends to favour teams with more resources and bigger squads.

The other reason that I'd definitely want to keep playoffs is that particularly in the Championship with teams with big wads of parachute payments, is the bigger danger is that the automatic slots get locked out by teams with lots of resources, looking 'bounce back' to the top flight. Having a top 6 at least gives a better chance of someone with more modest resources just having a good season. Once you are in the playoffs then its a bit of a lottery even if there are still favourites and dark horses. A full season and limited automatic-only places tends to favour teams with more resources and bigger squads.

Well quite. One bad set of results and suddenly we're only 4 points ahead but will have played a game more. We're in very patchy form. There's a lot to do still.

If every barely perceptible brush of laces like that was a foul all over the pitch at any time and in any circumstances, the game would never generate any momentum at all , it'd just be foul... foul... foul.. every time you challenge for a ball. Every defender and midfielder would be on a yellow in minutes or they simply don't risk a tackle of any sort and let the player walz through, fundamentally changing how the game is played.
That was a dive, pure and simple and the ref has bought it.

If every barely perceptible brush of laces like that was a foul all over the pitch at any time and in any circumstances, the game would never generate any momentum at all , it'd just be foul... foul... foul.. every time you challenge for a ball. Every defender and midfielder would be on a yellow in minutes or they simply don't risk a tackle of any sort and let the player walz through, fundamentally changing how the game is played.
That was a dive, pure and simple and the ref has bought it.

If every barely perceptible brush of laces like that was a foul all over the pitch at any time and in any circumstances, the game would never generate any momentum at all , it'd just be foul... foul... foul.. every time you challenge for a ball. Every defender and midfielder would be on a yellow in minutes or they simply don't risk a tackle of any sort and let the player walz through, fundamentally changing how the game is played.
That was a dive, pure and simple and the ref has bought it.

He's generally not been at all critical of players in any defeats until very recently. One of the things that has been great about the squad and manager this year is how tight they've been as a group. Hopefully nobody sulks after getting called out on workrate.

Exactly, same here. I've been looking forward to this for weeks but in the end, if it hadn't been for Alonso and the AM I've probably have wandered off and done some chores.
Don't get me wrong, I love F1 but without even vaguely competitive racing at the top, its just a noisy spectacle and currently not a very interesting one at that. It's just deja vu... RB fastest by a country mile, Perez not in the same league as Verstappen, Ferraris going pop (which at least saved them the bother of making a catastrophic tactical decision to destroy Leclerc's chances) and Mercedes just nowhere near being competitive (again).

I'll no doubt tune in to every race as usual but I think the sheer amount of time taken browsing my phone is usually an indicator with how engaged with it all I am.

Just hope that someone can come up with some meaningful upgrades or magic a decent car out of somewhere, There's only so much entertainment to be had watching the 'Battle for 10th'.

I'm sure a team will improve a lot as the seasons goes on. Probably Red Bull

Exactly, same here. I've been looking forward to this for weeks but in the end, if it hadn't been for Alonso and the AM I've probably have wandered off and done some chores.
Don't get me wrong, I love F1 but without even vaguely competitive racing at the top, its just a noisy spectacle and currently not a very interesting one at that. It's just deja vu... RB fastest by a country mile, Perez not in the same league as Verstappen, Ferraris going pop (which at least saved them the bother of making a catastrophic tactical decision to destroy Leclerc's chances) and Mercedes just nowhere near being competitive (again).

I'll no doubt tune in to every race as usual but I think the sheer amount of time taken browsing my phone is usually an indicator with how engaged with it all I am.

Just hope that someone can come up with some meaningful upgrades or magic a decent car out of somewhere, There's only so much entertainment to be had watching the 'Battle for 10th'.

On the positive side, err...
WEC, WRC, MotoGP, BTCC, WSB, sod it even Formula E and GT racing. Never really got into Nascar or indi. I think most of the IMSA races (american endurance racing) are going to be viewable in the UK free to air (the Daytona 24 was).
But yes, when it's a season of sub-plots down the order that's where the main entertaininment is, it can be a reach at times with F1.
It's not even like the red bulls have got something trick on them that everyone is going to say is ilegal and protest over.
Basically, Charles Leclerc and Lewis Hamilton are pinning a lot on that reduced red bull catering budget crippling max. "Verstappen out of 4 races after being given inferior chesse toastie"

Oh dear! Verstappen could have won that by a minute ? Had a feeling this season was over before it even started and so it seems. Given Perez will be cannon fodder on the odd occasions Ferrari might get within hailing distance, I can see another record number of wins for the man child. The irony of all this is that in order to end Merc's dominance using the more complex hybrid engines, the FIA have simply created an even more dominant team, though one whose drivers are not even racing each other. 
Nice to see the Grumpy Spaniard is happy, but that aside, this was a total non-event in motorsport terms. Watching the Ferrari which was not running at 100% pull away from Hamilton despite the latter having DRS means the only possible interest lies in whether Leclerc or Alonso takes the third slot on the podium. 
Still, a little light relief was provided by Ocon racking up an additional 35 seconds in the pits. Also, a nice 'recovery' drive from the back by Gasly about the only point of interest for the neutrals. 

Perhaps the title of thread could be changed to "Lack of sexism at PP". Been attending matches since 83/4 - never witnessed any sexist behaviour at any matches. All this from one idiot on twitter?

At half time though we're deservedly 2 up and could and probably should have been more - McGoldrick's has an all but free header. We then come out for 2nd half and they are much more lively but we give them a soft way back in when Fozzy gets robbed and they rode the momentum of that so fair play to them - when someone leaves the door open you step right through. We then followed by a needless decision to make for a penalty and it felt like Plymouth at home deja vu.
I genuinely don't think that if we keep it steady for the first 15 mins of the 2nd half that they find any way back into that though. The goal totally changes the game and we were inviting it by being sluggish and careless.

At half time though we're deservedly 2 up and could and probably should have been more - McGoldrick's has an all but free header. We then come out for 2nd half and they are much more lively but we give them a soft way back in when Fozzy gets robbed and they rode the momentum of that so fair play to them - when someone leaves the door open you step right through. We then followed by a needless decision to make for a penalty and it felt like Plymouth at home deja vu.
I genuinely don't think that if we keep it steady for the first 15 mins of the 2nd half that they find any way back into that though. The goal totally changes the game and we were inviting it by being sluggish and careless.

At half time though we're deservedly 2 up and could and probably should have been more - McGoldrick's has an all but free header. We then come out for 2nd half and they are much more lively but we give them a soft way back in when Fozzy gets robbed and they rode the momentum of that so fair play to them - when someone leaves the door open you step right through. We then followed by a needless decision to make for a penalty and it felt like Plymouth at home deja vu.
I genuinely don't think that if we keep it steady for the first 15 mins of the 2nd half that they find any way back into that though. The goal totally changes the game and we were inviting it by being sluggish and careless.

100%. It's easy to forget what an absolute shitshow we endured over the previous couple of years and even if we fall away and don't get a playoff place, we seem to have turned this oil tanker round and it's vital that we keep on applauding the huge progress made just to get us to a situation where we are no longer headline news for all the wrong reasons.
Forest have (so far) regrettably exceeded my expectations and you look to have given yourselves a real chance. It's still tight though and wouldn't take a lot to slide back into trouble but I'm guessing that you lot would have been happy enough with just staying up even if it was by a place or two.