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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from therealhantsram in Dajaune Brown   
    To back up my point about not rushing Brown, I've done a bit of research into players stepping up from the National League into the EFL.
    To start on a rather negative point, there are a number of forwards to step up into L1 who never meet the standards of the level in the last couple of seasons.
    Kabonga Tshimanga - 24 goals in 27 games followed by 7 goals in 17 games before stepping up into L1. 22 games without scoring in L1 for Peterborough and Fleetwood.
    Matt Lowe - 11 in 41 before stepping up. 0 in 20 games (L1) and 0 in 23 games (L2) since.
    Josh Walker - 10 in 32 followed by 10 in 24 before stepping up. 2 in 16 (L1) and 1 in 16 (L2) since.
    There have been some players in this period who have made the step up.
    Ephron Mason-Clark left Barnet for Peterborough after scoring 6 in 39 in the NL. He followed on from this by scoring 9 in 39 before taking an extra step developmentally this season scoring 14 and setting up countless other goals.
    Rúben Rodrigues scored 18 in 43 for Notts County before joining Oxford this year scoring 9 in 44. 
    Joe Taylor also made the step up, but took e seasons before reaching double figures in L1 this year for Lincoln.
    Other than these I can find many to make the step up to L1 directly, which should give an indication (to fans wanting Brown in the Championship next year) as to how big a step up it is and the need to move up through the leagues gradually.
    Looking at the numbers it appears a L2 loan would be most beneficial for Dajaune next season. Potentially a loan to Notts County if they end up selling Langstaff.
     
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from therealhantsram in Dajaune Brown   
    How many Premier League clubs sign a player after having a good season in Non League?
    In my opinion we should be looking at Brown as one for the future. The 'future' may come as soon as the second half of this season or it may come in a year or twos time. What we can all agree on by reading the comments on him, is that he will play a part in the clubs first team at some point or other.
    Having watched quite a bit of National league football this year, as my home town team have been playing in it, we need to temper our expectations of his current ability. I'm not denying that he has had a fantastic half season at Gateshead. But the standard of defending at NL level is terrible. Defenders are out of position far more than they were in League 1 last year. Defenders lose their players far more than they did in League 1. Defenders are typically slower and don't have the defending IQ to counteract it.
     
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from FlyBritishMidland in Dajaune Brown   
    To back up my point about not rushing Brown, I've done a bit of research into players stepping up from the National League into the EFL.
    To start on a rather negative point, there are a number of forwards to step up into L1 who never meet the standards of the level in the last couple of seasons.
    Kabonga Tshimanga - 24 goals in 27 games followed by 7 goals in 17 games before stepping up into L1. 22 games without scoring in L1 for Peterborough and Fleetwood.
    Matt Lowe - 11 in 41 before stepping up. 0 in 20 games (L1) and 0 in 23 games (L2) since.
    Josh Walker - 10 in 32 followed by 10 in 24 before stepping up. 2 in 16 (L1) and 1 in 16 (L2) since.
    There have been some players in this period who have made the step up.
    Ephron Mason-Clark left Barnet for Peterborough after scoring 6 in 39 in the NL. He followed on from this by scoring 9 in 39 before taking an extra step developmentally this season scoring 14 and setting up countless other goals.
    Rúben Rodrigues scored 18 in 43 for Notts County before joining Oxford this year scoring 9 in 44. 
    Joe Taylor also made the step up, but took e seasons before reaching double figures in L1 this year for Lincoln.
    Other than these I can find many to make the step up to L1 directly, which should give an indication (to fans wanting Brown in the Championship next year) as to how big a step up it is and the need to move up through the leagues gradually.
    Looking at the numbers it appears a L2 loan would be most beneficial for Dajaune next season. Potentially a loan to Notts County if they end up selling Langstaff.
     
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Crewton in Dajaune Brown   
    To back up my point about not rushing Brown, I've done a bit of research into players stepping up from the National League into the EFL.
    To start on a rather negative point, there are a number of forwards to step up into L1 who never meet the standards of the level in the last couple of seasons.
    Kabonga Tshimanga - 24 goals in 27 games followed by 7 goals in 17 games before stepping up into L1. 22 games without scoring in L1 for Peterborough and Fleetwood.
    Matt Lowe - 11 in 41 before stepping up. 0 in 20 games (L1) and 0 in 23 games (L2) since.
    Josh Walker - 10 in 32 followed by 10 in 24 before stepping up. 2 in 16 (L1) and 1 in 16 (L2) since.
    There have been some players in this period who have made the step up.
    Ephron Mason-Clark left Barnet for Peterborough after scoring 6 in 39 in the NL. He followed on from this by scoring 9 in 39 before taking an extra step developmentally this season scoring 14 and setting up countless other goals.
    Rúben Rodrigues scored 18 in 43 for Notts County before joining Oxford this year scoring 9 in 44. 
    Joe Taylor also made the step up, but took e seasons before reaching double figures in L1 this year for Lincoln.
    Other than these I can find many to make the step up to L1 directly, which should give an indication (to fans wanting Brown in the Championship next year) as to how big a step up it is and the need to move up through the leagues gradually.
    Looking at the numbers it appears a L2 loan would be most beneficial for Dajaune next season. Potentially a loan to Notts County if they end up selling Langstaff.
     
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from bcnram in Dajaune Brown   
    How many Premier League clubs sign a player after having a good season in Non League?
    In my opinion we should be looking at Brown as one for the future. The 'future' may come as soon as the second half of this season or it may come in a year or twos time. What we can all agree on by reading the comments on him, is that he will play a part in the clubs first team at some point or other.
    Having watched quite a bit of National league football this year, as my home town team have been playing in it, we need to temper our expectations of his current ability. I'm not denying that he has had a fantastic half season at Gateshead. But the standard of defending at NL level is terrible. Defenders are out of position far more than they were in League 1 last year. Defenders lose their players far more than they did in League 1. Defenders are typically slower and don't have the defending IQ to counteract it.
     
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Zag zig in Dajaune Brown - loan to Gateshead until end of season   
    Chesterfield fans reckon he's going to join them on loan for next season. I'm not so sure as I recall Warne talking about a team 'at the top of the national league' who weren't convincing at all when they tried to take him on loan last year. 
    Then again it has been very amusing reading who they think their club are signing this summer with Sam Morsy (just gone up with Ipswich), Liam Cooper (Leeds captain) and Nathan Byrne the 'most' likely according to them.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta in Dajaune Brown - loan to Gateshead until end of season   
    Chesterfield fans reckon he's going to join them on loan for next season. I'm not so sure as I recall Warne talking about a team 'at the top of the national league' who weren't convincing at all when they tried to take him on loan last year. 
    Then again it has been very amusing reading who they think their club are signing this summer with Sam Morsy (just gone up with Ipswich), Liam Cooper (Leeds captain) and Nathan Byrne the 'most' likely according to them.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Grimbeard in Dajaune Brown   
    I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
    National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
    For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
    I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Crewton in Dajaune Brown   
    I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
    National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
    For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
    I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from DiggerB in Wildsmith   
    I think Loach plays quite an important, yet under appreciated role at the club. He's at the stage of his career where he's thinking about life after retirement and is working his way through the coaching badges. This combined with his experience must be really helpful to the young keepers at the club.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Dajaune Brown   
    I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
    National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
    For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
    I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from FlyBritishMidland in Dajaune Brown   
    I sort of agree with this, but I'd do it the other way round. I'd look to loan him out to a L1 or L2 team to make sure the jump up in standard isn't too much too quick for him.
    National League defending really isn't up to standard. Hence Will Grigg scoring 25 goals this season, more than he scored in his past 5 seasons combined in L1. Diesuruvwe scoring 24 despite not doing anything at Salford in L2. Kabamba scoring 5 goals in 2 seasons in L2, then 25 in 40 games this season.
    For his long term development I think it would be better to gradually work his way up the leagues. This way we could end up thinking in several seasons time about how good he is, rather than how good he could have been.
    I don't want him to end up becoming another Mason Bennett.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from jimtastic56 in Wildsmith   
    I think Loach plays quite an important, yet under appreciated role at the club. He's at the stage of his career where he's thinking about life after retirement and is working his way through the coaching badges. This combined with his experience must be really helpful to the young keepers at the club.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Indyram in Max Bird - flew the coop to Bristol City, loaned to us to end of season   
    While I’m disappointed he’s left, it was a fantastic ending to his time as a Derby player. Opening the scoring, getting the appreciation from the crowd when he went off, then winning promotion back to the lowest level where we should be.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Carl Sagan in Summer transfer suggestion thread   
    Supposedly, he's on just over £60,000 a week at the moment. I can't see him taking a huge pay cut to join us. With the way modern football's going I wouldn't be surprised to see him at a lower level Premier League team like Leicester, Crystal Palace or Everton.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from BatRam in Bosun Lawal   
    You can't take too much from this type of video. I remember spending my summer watching Kamil Jozwiak clips thinking he'd take us to the prem. 
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from jono in Dirty Derby…??   
    Probably one of the teams that played at the Baseball Ground. White shirts mixed with that pitch is going to leave the kits looking rather dirty.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Crewton in Bosun Lawal   
    You can't take too much from this type of video. I remember spending my summer watching Kamil Jozwiak clips thinking he'd take us to the prem. 
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Crewton in Dajaune Brown - loan to Gateshead until end of season   
    Chesterfield fans reckon he's going to join them on loan for next season. I'm not so sure as I recall Warne talking about a team 'at the top of the national league' who weren't convincing at all when they tried to take him on loan last year. 
    Then again it has been very amusing reading who they think their club are signing this summer with Sam Morsy (just gone up with Ipswich), Liam Cooper (Leeds captain) and Nathan Byrne the 'most' likely according to them.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Premier ram in Blackett-Taylor   
    Since Saturday I've been looking at some of the statistics from the players this year and some of CBT look quite impressive over the course of the season (including the first half before joining us. While he's shown the occasional glimpse of what he could do, I think it's fair to say he hasn't performed to the levels we (and probably himself) expected. This may well be down to joining while injured and taking time to settle in.
    Anyway onto the statistics I was on about. I noticed that he actually did better than NML in a lot of statistics relating to attacking players. One of these being successful dribbles, where CBT averaged 60% of dribbles being successful. NML was marginally behind averaging 47% being successful. His accuracy of passing is what stood out to me 81% ending up with a teammate, which was the best out of all the players to have been involved with us in L1 this season. He was also second in the team with his passing accuracy in the opponents half, with 73% of passes being successful, being behind Nyambe. His crossing was also quite good with a third of crosses being won by teammates. This was only bettered by Barkhuizen, Fornah? and Korey Smith?.
    While most of this potentially came from his time with Charlton, it at least gives an indication of what he could potentially do once he's had a full pre-season with us and hopefully settled in. 
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from hintonsboots in Bosun Lawal   
    You can't take too much from this type of video. I remember spending my summer watching Kamil Jozwiak clips thinking he'd take us to the prem. 
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from YouRams in Summer transfer suggestion thread   
    It's more the 10 goals in the last 5 years that puts me off. On a low wage he could be a decent signing
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Ram a lamb a ding dong in Blackett-Taylor   
    Since Saturday I've been looking at some of the statistics from the players this year and some of CBT look quite impressive over the course of the season (including the first half before joining us. While he's shown the occasional glimpse of what he could do, I think it's fair to say he hasn't performed to the levels we (and probably himself) expected. This may well be down to joining while injured and taking time to settle in.
    Anyway onto the statistics I was on about. I noticed that he actually did better than NML in a lot of statistics relating to attacking players. One of these being successful dribbles, where CBT averaged 60% of dribbles being successful. NML was marginally behind averaging 47% being successful. His accuracy of passing is what stood out to me 81% ending up with a teammate, which was the best out of all the players to have been involved with us in L1 this season. He was also second in the team with his passing accuracy in the opponents half, with 73% of passes being successful, being behind Nyambe. His crossing was also quite good with a third of crosses being won by teammates. This was only bettered by Barkhuizen, Fornah? and Korey Smith?.
    While most of this potentially came from his time with Charlton, it at least gives an indication of what he could potentially do once he's had a full pre-season with us and hopefully settled in. 
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from angieram in Max Bird - flew the coop to Bristol City, loaned to us to end of season   
    While I’m disappointed he’s left, it was a fantastic ending to his time as a Derby player. Opening the scoring, getting the appreciation from the crowd when he went off, then winning promotion back to the lowest level where we should be.
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    Chesterfield_Ram got a reaction from Thierry Ennui in Summer transfer suggestion thread   
    These are some of my targets:
    CB: J. Williams - 24 - Barnsley - E.O.C - Good defensive statistics, averaged marginally more tackles per game than Cashin (Derby's leader in this stat), marginally behind the first 3 cbs we have in interceptions and clearances, good age profile, improvement on Bradley in defensive stats apart from aerial ability, however he would only be 4th/5th choice cb
    CB: R. Santos - 28 - Bolton - Transfer - This would be dependent on Bolton not going up, proven to be a really good defender in L1 and we could offer him the chance to take the next step in his career, defensive stats are similar to the likes are Cashin, Nelson and Forysth, wins more duels than any player we currently have, powerful, 68% pass accuracy is a better passing accuracy in the opposition half than are best cb this season (Cashin 58%)
    LB: H. Burrows - 22 - Peterborough - E.O.C - averaged 2 tackles per game, 1 interception per game, 55% successful dribbles. Joint most big chances created in L1 this season with NML, These are all an improvement on what we had at LB/LWB and his crossing ability is on par with we we have. I'd see this as an improvement defensively and with his age we could potentially sell him on in the future.
    CM: H. Kane - 25 - Barnsley - E.O.C. - Improvement of Hourihane defensively bettering him in tackles, interceptions, clearances etc, his passing ability is similar to Hourihane with Kane being better in the oppositions half, he's also younger and has time before he starts to decline physically, I presume he'd be more mobile than Hourihane is currently
    CM: S. Carey - 23 - Blackpool - E.O.C. - Passing stats are very similar to Bird, majority of passes come in opponents half and they are pretty accurate (70%), more creative player than the likes of Bird, Hourihane, Adams, decent dribbling stats, lacking in goals and assists though
    CM: E. Adams - 28 - Cardiff - Transfer - Sign him up. Simple as that really.
    CM: P. Maghoma - 22 - Brentford - Loan - 12 g+a, excellent passing stats (83% with 77% in opponents half) which are an improvement on what we have, excellent dribbling stats, and wins more duels than he loses, good move for him to take the next step in his development after being in l1 with bolton this year
    I'm not sure who we should go for as the type of striker we all would like would be out of our price range, but these are a few names who we could develop somewhat
    ST: W. Evans - 26 - Newport - Transfer - 21 goals last season with a 21% conversion rate
    ST: I. Olaofe - 24 - Stockport - Transfer - 20 goals last season with a 29% conversion rate, conversion rate in previous seasons is just under 20%, which is a bit low
    ST: M. Langstaff - 27 - Notts County - Transfer - 28 goals last season with a 16% conversion rate, scored 40 odd the season before, wouldn't be surprised if he did go for a quite a bit but you never know
    ST: L. Shankland - 28 - Hearts - Transfer - 21, 24, 8, 8, 24, 24, 26 goals over the last 7 seasons, he's out on contract at the end of next season which may bring his value down, however he could be a bit pricy at best he may be £1.5 million (which is still out of our budget probably)
     
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