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Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

I’m glad you posted that as I’ve tried numerous times to find a link.  I remember reading it and Mel Morris talking about Cocu’s appointment on Talk Sport.  I’ve got a feeling he also said that Cocu was ranked as the 14th best coach in Europe.  Again, that was from the same FFT feature about the top coaches and managers in Europe.
Something else I’ve often looked for, but been unable to find, was the press conference from when Pearson was appointed.  I’ve got a feeling it was on as I was driving home from work on a Friday evening.  MM was asked his thoughts about Pearson’s style of football and he responded with something like it was uncanny how similar their views were.
As you say, hindsight and all of that.

Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

I'm also guilty of questioning the timing of certain posts/topics, including one of Sage's, the summer transfer suggestion thread, which in my opinion was absurd to be thinking about in February when we had no idea what league we would be in.
The topic remains open, into page 39, doesn't change my opinion that it should have been a conversation to be starting this week.
Same with Paul Warne's future and worrying about the style of football in the Championship. We're there now, makes sense if those want to voice their concerns. 
There is a huge difference though between being told you cannot talk about something, quiet, sssh, lock it and voicing an opinion which questions the timing. 
I also think most regular members should be able to read the room at this stage, you know roughly where people stand and if you're going to throw out a controversial take 10 minutes after the final whistle after gaining promotion, kinda got to accept the criticism you would get for that.
Also, theres been some goading from the other side if you like following promotion, forcing humble pie down someone's throat will only be spat back in your face. If you actually read what those critical of Warne are saying, promotion wouldn't change the concern they have going forward, so yeah, lose the first 2 or 3 I'm sure we'll be back to the same debate.
Although for me, if you give the manager the summer, got to give them until Christmas then barring any complete and utter disaster situation which we saw under Pearson.
All in my opinion of course. 

I think the one thing that was maybe missing from Saturday was Warne and the staff having their moment with the fans. Thing is I can’t work out whether that’s a good or bad thing either!
 
I think to me, and I don’t want to go too OTT because I get why, but I just found Warne’s interviews very flat and a bit like he’d separated himself away from it all. Whether the celebrations at the end just gave him the chance to keep away from it all I don’t know, but I hope in some way we as fans can show our appreciation to the management at some point. 

I'm sure it was. But my point is that even four weeks' away from automatic promotion, and folks still acting like idiots.
Well, no acting involved, really.

Agree with much you say. My dim distant memory of the Cox years was that Division 3, as it was in those days, was not as competitive as it is today. May be wrong! The other point I would make is once Cox’s teams got promoted e splashed the cash and it was obvious certain players disliked each other e.g. Gabiadini / Kitson. You do not find that in Warner’s team. Never seen a team spirit like it.

I’ve no problem with critics provided they have some evidence/justification to back up their arguments. It the speculative ones who say things like “Warne won’t be able to manage in the Championship” I cannot really tolerate. 

Arthur Cox is undoubtedly one of the greatest managers in our history. He too got us out of the third tier in his second season, but Arthur started with twice as many players as Rosenior inherited and was able to strengthen the team part-way through the first season using money raised from the sale of Kevin Wilson and subsequently using investment from Maxwell. Rosenior (building on Rooney's undoubted influence) put together a functional team, but Warne's ability to trade-up was far more restricted than Cox's. I think for that reason it's fair to see this promotion as a greater achievement than Cox's first promotion, and a fair contender to be considered alongside Cox's 2nd promotion and Clough and Taylor's in 1969, purely because of the obstacles that had to be overcome.
Warne may never achieve another promotion or honour with Derby, but this is an achievement worthy of the prefix "great".

He said “one of the greatest” not “the greatest”.
Of course the achievement in itself doesn’t compare to our league wins, glorious victories in Europe or even winning the old second division but, as other have said, the context is all important here. Less than two years ago we were on the brink of extinction. Even after DC saved the club we could easily have found ourselves floundering in league one for too many seasons.

Thanks for the kind words, gang.
My understanding is that we’ll carry on as we are next season, but there will be no more UK streams due to the new TV deal.
That’s subject to change, of course. I’m sure we will look at what we do and how we do it as the dust settles, so we’ll have to see.
But it’s been a great ride, eh?

Final post Stevenage update - outstanding figures for the Rams
In that 32 league game period, we scored 57, conceded 22
Won 22, Drawn 5, Lost 5

Pretty remarkable really. Over the course of the season that’s 102 points, Bolton would have finished on 83 so we could’ve had it tied up after 40 games.
For at least 2 of those games we played with no fit strikers and lost back-to-back, so that figure could have been even higher.
Some effort from everybody involved.

Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

I’m glad you posted that as I’ve tried numerous times to find a link.  I remember reading it and Mel Morris talking about Cocu’s appointment on Talk Sport.  I’ve got a feeling he also said that Cocu was ranked as the 14th best coach in Europe.  Again, that was from the same FFT feature about the top coaches and managers in Europe.
Something else I’ve often looked for, but been unable to find, was the press conference from when Pearson was appointed.  I’ve got a feeling it was on as I was driving home from work on a Friday evening.  MM was asked his thoughts about Pearson’s style of football and he responded with something like it was uncanny how similar their views were.
As you say, hindsight and all of that.

Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

I’m glad you posted that as I’ve tried numerous times to find a link.  I remember reading it and Mel Morris talking about Cocu’s appointment on Talk Sport.  I’ve got a feeling he also said that Cocu was ranked as the 14th best coach in Europe.  Again, that was from the same FFT feature about the top coaches and managers in Europe.
Something else I’ve often looked for, but been unable to find, was the press conference from when Pearson was appointed.  I’ve got a feeling it was on as I was driving home from work on a Friday evening.  MM was asked his thoughts about Pearson’s style of football and he responded with something like it was uncanny how similar their views were.
As you say, hindsight and all of that.

Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

Remember when there was a clamour for Rooney to be given the Freedom of Derby??  This man really deserves it.  He stepped up when others couldn’t, or wouldn’t.   In doing so, he paid local business more than the minimum amount.  He recognised the importance of DCFC on the fans and the community.  He saved our club 🐏.

I agree. If my assumptions about our resources are likely to be accurate - and we’re sensible with the money we have- then I reckon mid-table would be a very good achievement. Higher than that - an excellent achievement.  We may well struggle a bit, especially at first.
If we do struggle, then I hope people manage their own expectations a bit and we don’t start getting at the manager, players and owner.  Sure there will be some who want instant gratification and pushing for playoffs straight away, but hopefully most will be sensible and be patient (especially when the parachute payment boys come to town!).

Just when I thought I’d got past the crying stage.
he’ll always think about his old seat and the people he sat with.
at the risk of sounding like an emotional wreck, Saturday was definitely a time of thinking of those no longer with us. Friends, family, ex players and managers. 
 
it’s more than a game of football, that’s for sure 
Ps. When do the pre season start!