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@Owen87ITK is it possible to use your contacts to get something out there?  It’s the East Midlands Derby this weekend and it seems an ideal time to try and get something on football focus or similar.

@Owen87ITK is it possible to use your contacts to get something out there?  It’s the East Midlands Derby this weekend and it seems an ideal time to try and get something on football focus or similar.

@Owen87ITK is it possible to use your contacts to get something out there?  It’s the East Midlands Derby this weekend and it seems an ideal time to try and get something on football focus or similar.

I don't think they have just discovered it. I think they went into the meeting with it. The EFL threw it out and the administrators thought the EFL were not complying with law, hence the statement on Friday. 
Since then, I'm guessing they have found out that the EFL rules haven't changed since the law was, and this is why the meeting went so badly on Friday. Challenge the rule, with fan power meaning it has to be done quickly, and it all falls into place. 

I have some experience with charities. There's a thing called "donor fatigue".
The current petition includes lots of signatures from supporters of other clubs. We should focus on that one petition.
Asking fans from those other clubs to sign a second petition will not meet with the same enthusiasm. That will result in a petition with fewer signatures than the first and result in the opposite impact than the one the proponents are hoping.
Seriously... Focus all efforts on this first petition. It's quantity that matters here.
The parliamentary mechanism requires 100,000 signatures to get something discussed - at some time in the future - in parliament. It won't get 100,000 and, even if it did, it wouldn't happen in time.
A far bigger impact will be achieved by the first petition obtaining as many signatures as possible. Everyone should work to achieve that - and to get it covered in the national media.

McClaren literally turned Newcastle down.

Not sure I do agree with that Ian Redfern guy’s opinion on this. Makes his points well and clearly has some experience in insolvencies. But ignores the fact the Boro and Wycombe claims have been put on us while in administration which isn’t supported by law, and doesn’t dispute as such that such claims have been promoted to football creditors therefore whatever that figure is needs to be settled in full which makes any prospective purchase unworkable if they are the figures stated and through further negotiations with said parties cannot be reduced.
He also assumes the EFL are allowing the possibility for these cases to be dealt with following due process or in court in the future, my understanding from everything that has been reported (and none of us really know the true facts) is they want settlement and agreement on the claims before approving any administration exit. So Mel indemnifying the preferred bidders against future liability may be irrelevant anyway.
There have been a few people, including this guy and an ex-poster on here who IMO has been a sad loss to this forum who have been very vocal for a while on other social media platforms namely Twitter that we shouldn’t attach any blame to the EFL, Middlesbrough or Wycombe, or blame and all fixes lie at the door of and in the hands of Mel Morris. This article simply continues to push that Agenda.
Mel Morris is absolutely no 1 person to blame in this yes and he could make this a whole lot easier in many ways. However without these ridiculous illegal claims on the table from Wycombe and Boro, we would likely be exiting administration.
 

It hasn't actually. They have been in touch with EFL and shared their reply to RT members and on Twitter. 
They have prepared an email template for fans to use with MPs and contacted the ones they can,  directly, sharing responses.
I haven't posted any of this on here because of the antagonism that people who aren't members show towards them whenever I do.
This board is not, some may be surprised to find out, the centre of the universe! 
I hope the tone of this reply matches that of those of Parry. 

What a team we have. I would love to see the data from all those sports bras and see the difference between a couple of seasons back and now.
These men; they are men - not boys not lads, they leave everything on the pitch, every game. I am so proud to be part of this magnificent quest we are on. The EFL haven’t an ounce of sportsmanship in their twisted, regressive, genetically flawed DNA. I hope for justice now but it’s a faint hope, but I know for certain that this team will be remembered. Our newly promoted midfield general is 19 years old  has tenacity, drive, maturity and determination far beyond his years. Our club Captain, in the late autumn of his career, is playing football of the highest order game after game. Our team Captain has transformed from being troubled and petulant into the fine skilled footballer we always hoped he could be. 
 
Anyway, hyperbole aside .. what a cracking day. Tight game but we played proper football, kept them at bay and did the goal scoring thing pretty damned well.
Joz was ok but Fozzy made a difference winning headers and Colin just doesn’t tolerate bullies does he !
10/10 for every player, Pointless singling out anyone in what is a real team; but can someone explain why wrapping your arms round an opponent or two handed  pushes within 2 yards of a well placed assistant referee is allowable ? I saw one or the other on 5 occasions. 
 
Fight to the end, I love this team, it’s special and a certain chubby scouser needs credit for sticking it together with glue and sawdust ( extra sawdust from tree felling work available next week I hope ) 
 
 

Nice to see Quest actually address the issue of Middlesbrough and Wycombe and not just repeat EFL bull. Ironically on EFL on quest. 

We’ll win tomorrow.  Admin announced before the Stoke game - win.  More points deducted before Bournemouth - win.  Let’s make it a hat-trick.  Siege mentality.  And without going to much Kevin Keegan I’d love it if we stay up.  LOVE IT!!

I think there definitely needs more coverage in the media about the Middlesbrough and Wycombe claims.  I was telling a couple of mates about it in the pub tonight and they didn’t know anything about it and couldn’t understand how it could happen.
If I was Rooney I’d just let rip in my post match conference tomorrow and say it how it is.  And I’d also say if the EFL want to fine me, get on with it.  I think that’s the only way it will all come to light as it would be in all the papers and on all the radio and TV stations.

We’ll win tomorrow.  Admin announced before the Stoke game - win.  More points deducted before Bournemouth - win.  Let’s make it a hat-trick.  Siege mentality.  And without going to much Kevin Keegan I’d love it if we stay up.  LOVE IT!!

I think there definitely needs more coverage in the media about the Middlesbrough and Wycombe claims.  I was telling a couple of mates about it in the pub tonight and they didn’t know anything about it and couldn’t understand how it could happen.
If I was Rooney I’d just let rip in my post match conference tomorrow and say it how it is.  And I’d also say if the EFL want to fine me, get on with it.  I think that’s the only way it will all come to light as it would be in all the papers and on all the radio and TV stations.

Quantuma would expect the EFL to remain neutral, not use the claims as leverage against the club. They are essentially preventing the claims being dealt with in accordance with their own ducking rules!!!! 
Wake up!!!! 

Oh give it a rest. They aren't new to this administration game.
The EFL are going 'against statute' how could the Admin plan for that? How could they accept that just another creditor claim be treated as 'football creditors' because they are football clubs? As has been said when we've given into those clubs without being able to contest their claim, who next. Which other clubs would like to take a financial pop at us while we're in administration and can't fight back!?!

Absolutely 100% spot on. They are NOT creditors. No contract no invoice no debt just a made up figure put in an email to the Club and copied to the EFL. What if their claim was 500m? Still just made up. 

Just s silly thought what if one of our large creditors informed the EFL if the club was liquidated because the EFL insisted that the administrators broke the law and they could not do that and they got less than a figure agreed with the administrators the creditor would sue the EFL for the difference. That would wake them up

You had made your same (ridiculous IMO) point several times now, maybe have a day off today.
It's bad enough reading other fan's ill-informed trolling on Twitter without your own fans trotting out similarly warped ideas over and over.
No idea what you imagine this plan b you are referring to would entail and I don't care. I don't want the administrators following some random path that doesn't follow reason, morality, equity, sense or the law, on the chance that the EFL aren't going to do any of that.  Rather that they call them out on it and stick to the proper path. Our job is now to draw attention to it, not muddy the water by blaming the administrators. 
Doesn't matter how long ago the administrators had considered it, what could they do other than negotiate,  plead, discuss and give credence and substance to ridiculous, spurious and downright disgraceful attempts to extort money out of the club. Instead they are saying these grasps for money need to be settled elsewhere. They settled for 21 points to get things moving, and so these clubs are sensing there is a deal to be had and I'm glad they aren't budging this time- what deal would you be happy with? £10m, £20m?? No way should they be doing anything than saying its a sick joke and that they will not enter into negotiations with other clubs with no legal or moral reason to do so.
 

I'd argue having 3 viable bids is a plan A, plan B and a plan C ......

As I understand it:
the path forward WAS having a bid come through that satisfied the administrators (which is on behalf of the creditors, and ultimately satisfy club asset purchase as well).
That path was found and met by the 3 offers the Admin claim to have. Now EFL are saying, no, we want you to settle these other claims first. To which the administrators are saying- you have no jurisdiction to make that demand.
So the EFL must explain (to all, including the creditors) why they are demanding something more then is needed to ratify the club sale. 
To note: it is my understanding the EFL have no remit to stop a sale because of an outstanding claim by another club. 

But this is the point made many times in more than 1 thread, they DID have a route out until the EFL added the requirement for Boro and Wycombe to be dealt with,  and if you believe them as experts and lawyers, what  the EFL are now asking is effectively against the law/their rules, hence using the term statute in their statement.
I don't believe there is anything filed legally from either club, it is internal to the EFL yet they state that they have no involvement in these claims in one of their statements yesterday. We have been punished with points deductions, embargoes and financial restrictions on how the club can be run in line with the regulations, that's it, end of.
Can't wait for the poo storm from every other club with an axe to grind for wrongdoings in the past, and I would love Boro to get 6th place this season but fail ffp and see 7th place raise the same case against them!