G STAR RAM

Were you asleep last summer? The mainstream media has done nothing but hype this up for the last 14 months, to the point where some people were literally scared to leave their house.
Sure there were lots more people putting up counter arguments as more evidence became available. 
Yes I think they should be reporting what the Government adviser is saying. They should also be asking why they are not considering the large proportion of the population has been vaccinated, and that the ones that have not been offered the vaccine are unlikely to become seriously ill, and also if people have been offered the vaccine and not had it then they need to manage their own risk.
The purpose of these lockdowns and measures was to reduce the pressure on the NHS. It has NEVER been sold to us as a zero Covid approach and if that is now the case we should be told so we can make our own decisions.
If the Indian variant is so much more transmissible why did Sage not advise to stop repatriations from India as soon as it became apparent?
 

The story actually said that casea had tripled in some areas.
So in my mind that is exactly what the headline should say, not cases almost triple in England. 
The sad thing is these stories lead to mass hysteria, which in turn leads to more pressure being applied on the Government to delay re-opening.
Data not dates, unfortunately, appears to have been replaced by pandering to ever shouts loudest.
If we were following data not dates, everywhere would be re-open by now as the rise in cases from school re-opening, that we were told was inevitable never materialised.

Well if these local journalists 'know what is going on' why dont they say and then I am sure there will be more pressure from the fanbase for the club to come clean.
From the little I do see of the local media, they seem to just regurgitate articles from national media and internet forums, so not sure I agree that they know any more than us.
If parts of meetings are private and confidential they should not be discussed at all, it leads to situations like you have created here, whereby you are expecting people to act just on your word.
It was one of the things that annoyed me about Breakfast Club, MM said things and then asked for them not to be repeated. Its no way to act.

Well if these local journalists 'know what is going on' why dont they say and then I am sure there will be more pressure from the fanbase for the club to come clean.
From the little I do see of the local media, they seem to just regurgitate articles from national media and internet forums, so not sure I agree that they know any more than us.
If parts of meetings are private and confidential they should not be discussed at all, it leads to situations like you have created here, whereby you are expecting people to act just on your word.
It was one of the things that annoyed me about Breakfast Club, MM said things and then asked for them not to be repeated. Its no way to act.

Do you think the local media has a wider reach than local media? Are Derby fans only confined to the local area?
I have no idea why they are not speaking to the local media, if anything I think they get an easier ride from the local media.
You have hinted that these meetings include information being divulged which should not be relayed to the fanbase. Its pointless cherry picking questions to answer if extremely important information is being withheld.

Perhaps that is because they have also seen and heard MMs interviews in the national media so, like alot of us, dont actually believe they are being kept in the dark.
Yes, was not accusing you of doing that, I just think its completely wrong for the club to reveal information to a select few, that they would not reveal to the whole fanbase. I'd hope that any groups that are supposedly representing the fans would point this out too.

Well if these local journalists 'know what is going on' why dont they say and then I am sure there will be more pressure from the fanbase for the club to come clean.
From the little I do see of the local media, they seem to just regurgitate articles from national media and internet forums, so not sure I agree that they know any more than us.
If parts of meetings are private and confidential they should not be discussed at all, it leads to situations like you have created here, whereby you are expecting people to act just on your word.
It was one of the things that annoyed me about Breakfast Club, MM said things and then asked for them not to be repeated. Its no way to act.

Well if these local journalists 'know what is going on' why dont they say and then I am sure there will be more pressure from the fanbase for the club to come clean.
From the little I do see of the local media, they seem to just regurgitate articles from national media and internet forums, so not sure I agree that they know any more than us.
If parts of meetings are private and confidential they should not be discussed at all, it leads to situations like you have created here, whereby you are expecting people to act just on your word.
It was one of the things that annoyed me about Breakfast Club, MM said things and then asked for them not to be repeated. Its no way to act.

The story actually said that casea had tripled in some areas.
So in my mind that is exactly what the headline should say, not cases almost triple in England. 
The sad thing is these stories lead to mass hysteria, which in turn leads to more pressure being applied on the Government to delay re-opening.
Data not dates, unfortunately, appears to have been replaced by pandering to ever shouts loudest.
If we were following data not dates, everywhere would be re-open by now as the rise in cases from school re-opening, that we were told was inevitable never materialised.

All deserve credit, dont forget that AZ are doing it on a not for profit basis.
I only credit the Government for acquisition the vaccines.
Everything else I thought was down to the NHS and the army but I am guessing from the earlier post that I am incorrect.

Those around 10 or so people in the meeting ,,,, do they get given full and frank details of the financial position the club is in ? 
do they then pass it on from there to the whole fanbase ? Or do they hold back this information for the good of the club? 

So am I correct in assuming that if the Government imposed some sort of media ban that you wouldn't then start saying that they were attacking free speech?
Just to bring this post back on to topic:
Independent headline 14 May 2021 'Scientists call for 'surge' vaccinations as Covid cases almost triple in England'
From the Uk Government Government coronavirus dashboard 13 May 2021 'Between 7 May 2021 and 13 May 2021, 16,079 people had a confirmed positive test result. This shows an increase of 12.4% compared to the previous 7 days'.
 

The story actually said that casea had tripled in some areas.
So in my mind that is exactly what the headline should say, not cases almost triple in England. 
The sad thing is these stories lead to mass hysteria, which in turn leads to more pressure being applied on the Government to delay re-opening.
Data not dates, unfortunately, appears to have been replaced by pandering to ever shouts loudest.
If we were following data not dates, everywhere would be re-open by now as the rise in cases from school re-opening, that we were told was inevitable never materialised.

So am I correct in assuming that if the Government imposed some sort of media ban that you wouldn't then start saying that they were attacking free speech?
Just to bring this post back on to topic:
Independent headline 14 May 2021 'Scientists call for 'surge' vaccinations as Covid cases almost triple in England'
From the Uk Government Government coronavirus dashboard 13 May 2021 'Between 7 May 2021 and 13 May 2021, 16,079 people had a confirmed positive test result. This shows an increase of 12.4% compared to the previous 7 days'.
 

I would imagine it's a case of new P&S submissions for those three seasons rather than resubmitting the actual accounts.
In terms of amortisation, we were only charged with improper accounts. Presumably they know we wouldn't have failed P&S for the 3 years to 2018, otherwise they would have stated that in the charge like they did with the stadium.

Just to be clear here, your gripe is that MM has told us the situation via the national media rather than the local media?
As for distancing themselves from the fans, when and where exactly were you expecting them to engage the fans? You are aware of the pandemic aren't you?

With the EFL involved we can’t really assume anything 

good point,  I'll start. 
They are a marginally better organisation than ISIS and the Taliban. 

To be fair I think we should celebrate the fact that our governing body show expertise in such a wide range of areas.
I mean they've shown themselves to have more knowledge of property valuation than one of the biggest commercial chartered surveyors in the world, better knowledge of accounting and auditing than a firm of chartered accountants, better knowledge of the application of accounting policies than the ICAEW. Basically, the only area where they seem to lack any creditable expertise is in running the football league.

To be fair I think we should celebrate the fact that our governing body show expertise in such a wide range of areas.
I mean they've shown themselves to have more knowledge of property valuation than one of the biggest commercial chartered surveyors in the world, better knowledge of accounting and auditing than a firm of chartered accountants, better knowledge of the application of accounting policies than the ICAEW. Basically, the only area where they seem to lack any creditable expertise is in running the football league.

To be fair I think we should celebrate the fact that our governing body show expertise in such a wide range of areas.
I mean they've shown themselves to have more knowledge of property valuation than one of the biggest commercial chartered surveyors in the world, better knowledge of accounting and auditing than a firm of chartered accountants, better knowledge of the application of accounting policies than the ICAEW. Basically, the only area where they seem to lack any creditable expertise is in running the football league.

So by decent owners you actually meant cheats?

I take it you are aware that both of your examples just basically laughed at the EFL rules on their way up to the Premier League?

To be fair I think we should celebrate the fact that our governing body show expertise in such a wide range of areas.
I mean they've shown themselves to have more knowledge of property valuation than one of the biggest commercial chartered surveyors in the world, better knowledge of accounting and auditing than a firm of chartered accountants, better knowledge of the application of accounting policies than the ICAEW. Basically, the only area where they seem to lack any creditable expertise is in running the football league.

To be fair I think we should celebrate the fact that our governing body show expertise in such a wide range of areas.
I mean they've shown themselves to have more knowledge of property valuation than one of the biggest commercial chartered surveyors in the world, better knowledge of accounting and auditing than a firm of chartered accountants, better knowledge of the application of accounting policies than the ICAEW. Basically, the only area where they seem to lack any creditable expertise is in running the football league.