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38 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Just interested to know if anybody actually thinks we have improved after 50 odd matches under Warne ?

I don’t and it seems a very painful watch most of the time

We improved until about February of last season then went backwards as we ran out of steam which is why we never made the playoffs. The start of this season we've been all over the place quite frankly.

19 minutes ago, Blondest Goat said:

Similar in what way?   It's absolutely nothing like it.   

If he thinks we played anything remotely like Liverpool on Saturday he should be sacked on the spot.

Clearly what's being served up isn't what Paul Warne wants

29 minutes ago, Blondest Goat said:

Aside from set pieces we never looked like scoring.  We barely got into their half let alone the final third.  Despite our apparent desire to press like Liverpool (someone has got to be joking surely) Bolton got to the edge of our box time and time again.  

The referee was terrible for sure but I don't really think we deserved anything out of the game.

I mean Paul literally stated that his style of play is similar to Liverpool

18 minutes ago, nottingram said:

I would be amazed if even half the people who go “well actually Rosenior was interim so it can’t have been a surprise” actually thought at the time he wasn’t going to be appointed full time.

It felt inevitable, and him being replaced was a huge shock.

Yes I thought he would actually be appointed full time. I had my concerns but I wasn't completely against it and had it happened I would have got right behind him. It wasn't necessarily a huge shock because some of the performances and results particularly away from home were poor. I think clowes always planned to get his own man in and after watching us at the start of the season probably just reinforced that belief we needed a change of direction from previous regimes. I don't blame him at all for making the decision he did.

2 hours ago, sage said:

So Warne should have the time and Rosenoir shouldn't have?

 

It's irrelevant. Clowes chose not to appoint Rosenior full time. At the time I thought we needed a clean slate, a new manager chosen by new ownership. That was my overriding feeling on the whole situation. Nothing to do with not giving Rosenior time.

1 hour ago, trappatoni said:

I guess it depends what you like from football but I enjoyed the football under Rosenior.   When you think he hardly had McGoldrick available - where would we have finished under Warne without McGoldrick - I honestly don't think top half would have been definite.  

 

Sacking him (ok not appointing him as permanent manager) looked an odd decision at the time - it makes me fear Clowes' views on the game are decades out of date and he's going to keep on appointing similar types. 

Personally I thought the football under Rosenior was boring, far too much possession with no real substance. Reminded me of Cocu. The away form remained a real problem. Some of the games were truly dreadful.

My feeling at the time was that we needed a complete change of direction. A clean slate with a coaching staff who weren't connected to the failed previous regimes. This is why I was pleased when we appointed Paul Warne. Immediately he made us get the ball forwards quicker and in my opinion it was a much better watch. He addressed the away form straight away. I acknowledge there were also poor games and it's not great at the moment.

I don't think this current football is the football Warne wants, far from it in fact. When you hear him talk about the game it just doesn't match with what we are currently seeing on the pitch.

Warnes whole football philosophy is based around pressing and gegenpressing ala Klopps Liverpool. Here's one for the stattos. Under Warne Rotherham consistently had one of the lowest 'Passes allowed Per Defensive Action' rates in the entire English football pyramid. Essentially the lower the PPDA, the less time a team allows the opposition to have on the ball. Highly impressive given the lack of quality and depth within their squad in comparison to teams in the Premier League. Rotherham also had the highest challenge intensity, a metric designed to measure how actively a team is seeking to recover the ball. So what these stats tell us is that Rotherham actively looked to win the ball pressing high up the pitch, and were very good at it.

We saw this at times last season, mostly in that good run we had. The 4-2 against Bristol Rovers and the 4-0 demolition of Accrington Stanley spring to mind. Those games I think we saw what Paul Warne wants. We pressed both of those teams high up the pitch and caught them time after time. And we didn't play hopeless long balls. We kept the ball on the deck and moved it quickly, knitting together some good moves. Then mixed it up when we needed to, what good teams do. Aggressive front foot football is exactly what I want to see at the club.

I think we just have to give it a bit more time and let things settle down. I'm confident we will see a good Derby County this season.

3 hours ago, Stockport Ram said:

The mark of a good player is that they learn from their mistakes. Keogh never, ever did. His “brilliant last ditch” saving tackles almost always resulted from appalling positioning which was a feature of his game. His basic defensive decision making was regularly schoolboy level.It was never “his” fault.  I am embarrassed that he somehow was POTS twice, because he was a walking accident waiting to happen. It was obvious from before the Mac season, and my opinion has nothing to do with the Zamora incident - it sadly is the lowlight of something almost inevitable which continued for years afterwards. He lead Coventry to relegation and was a rushed buy forced on Nigel by circumstances. He was the common thread throughout a decade where we consistently failed to ensure that the team equalled or exceeded the sum of its parts. Joinergate and subsequent events have pretty much proved that only one thing matters to him - and that’s RK. 

I’ve never booed a Ram but will always be embarrassed and perplexed that he is still held in such apparent high esteem as a player, by some.

He was excellent in his last full season with us

It's been a real mixed bag of performances and results. International break has definitely come at a good time. Some time to get on the training ground and also get some injured players back. I am confident once we get a settled side we will improve. I expect us to start hitting our stride come October/November.

12 minutes ago, Rich3478 said:

Genuinely forgot te wierek ever existed!

I thought te wierik was going to come in and be a dominant centre back, the leader of the defence and a strong figure in the team. We saw absolutely none of that. I thought Bradley would be the same but we haven't seen it yet. Still need to give him some time though.

Agreed he's set the club back years

2 hours ago, dantheram said:

If there’s one thing you can guarantee, the moment we get someone playing well they’ll get an ACL. 

this club is cursed - Leicester win the prem, forest are going to end up winning something and we’ll still be sat here, bloody gypsy curse. 

4 play off defeats in 6 years. 2 finals lost. When will our luck change

11 minutes ago, Jourdan said:

No-one is enjoying our play at the moment, but with time, is it possible things will click? We didn’t start playing our best and most coherent football last season until November/December, but once we found our stride, we got results and played some lovely football. So let’s not pretend it’s not possible and let’s not pretend all of our good players will be bypassed.

I think this is key. We just need to give it a bit of time. I don't think the chopping and changing of lineups/system/formations is helping us at all.

Our best football last season came when Forsyth was next to Cashin. They formed a really solid partnership. In front you had a midfield combination of Bird Knight and hourihane. McGoldrick the central striker with wingers either side of him. It was round pegs in round holes. It just worked. And that's where we saw some pretty nice football and results.

We are nowhere near a settled side at the moment and it's showing.

3 minutes ago, DCFC Kicks said:

I thought he actually had a decent game today apart from the catastrophic error which ruined the whole game for us.

Unfortunately, decent performances mean very little if you continue to make game deciding errors

9 minutes ago, SSD said:

Warne instructions to where he wants the ball.

 

If God wanted us to play football in the sky, he'd have put grass up there 

Ed Dawes losing his mind here

3 minutes ago, Magicman said:

Another c*** up by bradley the guy reminds me of calamity keogh.

Keogh was a better player than this guy has ever been

Send him back to Luton 

Ffs

Bugger

Get in

5 hours ago, TomTom92 said:

Still have my reservations although 5 goals would suggest otherwise. 
 
We may go up top 2 but we’re not as strong as Plymouth or Ipswich in my opinion and that rightly or wrongly is my barometer.

Time will tell how good we are. But I think the squad on paper is good enough to compete for promotion.

He isn't going

Can't stop signing players

1 hour ago, Barney1991 said:

Crazy football pyramid now a days. We can’t afford a million for Clark Harris and Chelsea are paying over 40 million for a player who’s not played a full season of men’s first team football 

It's ridiculous

19 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Yeah, disappointing. As I mentioned, Bobby Clark is one they have genuine hopes for so can understand their reluctance to let him go out on loan when in theory he's getting the best coaching in the world at Liverpool under Jurgen Klopp.

Doesn't matter if he doesn't get chance to play which he won't