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2 hours ago, Bris Vegas said:

Weird. When giving the police a description of somebody, skin colour is almost the first you’d use. Describing skin colour is absolutely fine because there is nothing wrong with being any skin colour. So why would it be offensive?

 

 

I think my time would be wasted attempting to educate you on this. Suppose my parting remark would be; Having not met the lad Would you feel comfortable describing him like that? 

1 hour ago, LERam said:

People need to get over it... I understand why it's frustrating but you have to read a situation. Obviously nothing meant by it.

It shouldn't be an issue to identify someone by how they look. If identifying them as black or white narrows it down or helps then I don't see an issue. 

Maybe I'm not woke enough... 

PS I haven't read pages 2 onwards so apologies if this has already been discussed and closed.

Err don't think this is a new "woke" issue. I think for decades it's been widely inappropriate to describe someone solely on the colour of their skin. Really inappropriate. Obviously nothing meant by it, but it's worth picking it up and saying.  "Appreciate nothing meant by it B4 but referring to someone solely on the colour of their skin can be offensive, try describing them in another for example... ".  No massive woke war of words needed just a PM from one of the mods, probably the post removing/editing and move on. 

4 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Why? Is there something wrong with being black? You are not making it clear. Does the lad not want to be known as a black player?

I'm being serious, I cannot see your problem. 

No. I believe he would like to be know as a football player and not defined by the colour of his skin. 
There are far more ways to describe someone than the colour of their skin, especially on a football pitch where you have multiple options - 

position 

number 

style of play 

left foot/right foot 

etc etc. 

Just to let you know 2022 btw… 

1 hour ago, alram said:

if the company you work for goes into administration then extend your contract without consent we will see how you feel

Not really how it works. He signed a contract where we could extend if we decided. Tbh I speculate there was a clause that did the same from his side. It just doesn’t suit him to stay with us and he’s looking to get out of his contract. 
 Now he could have handed in a transfer request and told the club he doesn’t want to play for us which would have lead to us selling for a fee of some sort. 
However these two players have decided they want to go a step further, make themselves free agents and take a bigger wage/sign on bonus as there is a reduced cost. 
 

Both players could have forced a move, we would have received something. However they have done this to gain a bigger paycheque. 

On 05/07/2022 at 13:29, Carl Sagan said:

It's a mark of how much Rooney destroyed Sibley's confidence that the majority don't name him in their starting 11s for the new campaign. And as the lead coach, Rosenior must have played a part in that too. For others of us, Louie would be the first name on the teamsheet and the player to build a promotion push around. 

If Sibbo is going to again find himself in the position of occasional 10 minute cameos off the bench to try to change the game then, despite him being a fan, he has to leave to give his career a chance to blossom as it should. If he's going to be a midfield regular next year, with the manager trusting him and not being the first person to come off if things are going south, I hope he stays. 

If you're another club looking to pick players off from us, Sibley is your number one target since, for a small outlay, he can become a real star in the future. 

 

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57 minutes ago, Crewton said:

I don't agree with you there. Even with the 3 excellent loanees, our squad wasn't one of the two best in the Division. Norwich and Sheff U certainly over-achieved, Leeds also due to Bielsa, but Villa's squad was head and shoulders above ours. West Brom and Stoke retained the majority of their PL squads and Boro had Randolph, Friend, Ayala, Fry, Flint, Leadbitter, Clayton, Howson, McNair, Downing, Besic, Assombalonga, Hugill, Braithwaite and Gestede - they should have waltzed into the top 2 with that squad, even without Martyn Waghorn (lol). Top 6 was a reasonable expectation for us, but we lacked the overall quality of at least 4 other teams.

We had a period of injury to MM, if he hadn’t spent that time out we’d have been in the automatic fold. The squad was ridiculously full of top players for the championship. Each position you’d have struggled to make a case for a better player obviously with a few exceptions but ultimately that was a very very good squad 
 

Marriott 

Waghorn 

Bennett(form of his life) 

Lawrence 

Mount 

Wilson 

Tomori 

Keogh 

Bogle 

Carson

Cole 

Malone 

Huddlestone 

Johnson 

Bryson 

King 

Nugent 

I’d like Ben foster if he’d consider it. Lives in midlands might be happy to consider us as others have. I wouldn’t blow the budget on a keeper though. Yes they can gain you 3 points every now and again but most keepers can do a steady job and it’s goals we really need.  

Mount Tomori Wilson Ashley Cole Keogh Bogle. 
 

2 full England internationals there. One made his debut while playing for us. The big difference is we had them for the full season with the same manager. 
 

Villa got Mings (who made a real difference to their season) in Jan. 
 

We should have finished top 2 with the squad we had! Sheffield United and Norwich were on paper a lot worse. 

41 minutes ago, vonwright said:

The side they put out in the play-off final was ridiculously strong, really. They had Mings, Tuanzebe, McGinn, Grealish, Abraham and El Ghazi all starting (not to mention the likes of Hourihane). They really should have finished top two. 

Mount, Tomori and Wilson papered over a lot of cracks for us that year.

I can’t see the business plan being “that” harsh.

1)were in league one and I imagine our budget/restrictions are still massively different to other clubs. 
2) I can’t see the EFL being in a great bargaining position when it came to us leaving admin. After 9 months if they were the barrier to us exiting admin it wouldn’t have looked great. So I think the business plan will be fairly flexible. 

44 minutes ago, WystonRam said:

Players are covered with insurance for the club if they suffer long term injuries I think ?

We’ll I think that depends on the player. Sibley knight Byrne yes… Davies Fozzy KB? Probably not 

Davies has said he plans to carry on playing for a while. He’s said he feels he’s got 2/3 seasons in him. Clearly major injury’s permitting I can see him being in pro football until he’s 40+. Generally speaking he hasn’t had many major injuries in his career. 

45 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

Two keepers in the building if this goes through, that’s one priority position sorted ✅ and it keeps the average squad age down for those with concerns! 

This is the one position you don’t mind them being the wrong end of 30. 

Some players are waiting on manager and other player contracts to be in place before committing their own futures. 

We’re awfully quiet on this one. I suspect we’re consulting the legality of it and planning our move accordingly.
The club owns the players registration and that’s transferred as part of any sale. However the player could rip up his employment contract… we can’t stop him doing that. However as we own the registration, we could theoretically prevent him from being registered with anyone until next season.
Personally I would try to come to some arrangement with WB, but £400k is too short. 

Can’t see us announcing anything today now 

LR a coach. He needs a number two that can do the “arm round shoulder” role. Someone to reenforce his messages and keep the players engaged. 

Think he’d be a waste of money 

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I think this should exclude current England internationals too. 
 

Martin

Hughes 

Bradley Johnson 

I actually wanted to see how Roos faired in league 1, I think he would have been well suited to that level 

2 minutes ago, Curtains said:

People should realise Clowes is the real deal. 
Takeover will happen. 
 

I think the worry is more “what has Mel done now?” 
Knowing our luck Erik Alonso owns the training pitches and BZN own the changing rooms. And CK had an illegal helipad on the car park. 

To be fair there’s only a handful clubs that can afford to pay more than we can in the championship. The championship is skint. 
 

Burnley 

Norwich 

Watford 

Unless your in receipt of parachute payments, and I suggest his contract would mirror when they run out he’s a big gamble, especially given his consistency record. 

Otherwise we’re (EFL permitting) probably able to match or get near to most sensible clubs. 
 

12 hours ago, plymouthram said:

Do you work for Quantuma

 

No they seem to operate under the opposite practice

Don’t think these admin have every understood the practice of under promise over deliver.

In my business I always give my client a date that gives me breathing space for example if I’m told it will be done in 5 days, I tell my clients 10. 
 

2 minutes ago, Tamworthram said:

Are you sure a date has actually been announced for expiry of the PB status? All I can see is that a completion date has been TARGETED for 29th June. A target date, like an expectation, is not a deadline by which it must be completed or the deal is off:

"The joint administrators are delighted to confirm that they have formally accepted Clowes' offer to acquire Derby County Football Club ("the club") out of administration. Clowes has been granted preferred bidder status with immediate effect. "The joint administrators will now enter into a period of exclusivity with Clowes, with a completion of the acquisition of the business and the assets of the club targeted for June 29.

From memory it then goes onto say they will be prohibited from speaking to other parties during this period. 

1 minute ago, RadioactiveWaste said:

Presumably within quantuma's gift to extend it and if "everyone is working hard on completing the deal" they will do.

If not, it's back into the loving embrace of Mike Ashley.

I expect if it’s virtually done they will extend.