Bob The Badger

Joker
Just brilliant

Well today I went go and see new batman film I think it was really really good very very well made plenty of action and I like because one goodie and one baddy. Not like many super hero films were it has far far to many in them now were I cant keep up with them and I think how do they come into it.
I would give the film 8.5 out of 10 well worth go and see.

That's a very thoughtful and considered post mate.
A couple of years ago Bernie Sanders the independent Senator from Vermont and enemy of the far right pointed out that Fidel Castro had done some good things in Cuba.
He may as well have said he liked to fondle small barnyard animals because everything after that was drowned out by the apoplectic outrage from not just the Republicans but the moderate Dems and of course, all the exiled Cubans too.
The reality is that Cuba under Castro raised the level of education and healthcare to become the best at both in the Caribbean, which I think we can all agree is a good thing no matter what else he did.
People like binary choices because they are easy.
On a scale of 0 to 10 when it comes to the disregard for human life when it comes to his own interests, Putin is doing a Spinal Tap and is sat at 11 But we and the Americans are a LOT closer to 10 than 0.
 

That's a very thoughtful and considered post mate.
A couple of years ago Bernie Sanders the independent Senator from Vermont and enemy of the far right pointed out that Fidel Castro had done some good things in Cuba.
He may as well have said he liked to fondle small barnyard animals because everything after that was drowned out by the apoplectic outrage from not just the Republicans but the moderate Dems and of course, all the exiled Cubans too.
The reality is that Cuba under Castro raised the level of education and healthcare to become the best at both in the Caribbean, which I think we can all agree is a good thing no matter what else he did.
People like binary choices because they are easy.
On a scale of 0 to 10 when it comes to the disregard for human life when it comes to his own interests, Putin is doing a Spinal Tap and is sat at 11 But we and the Americans are a LOT closer to 10 than 0.
 

That's a very thoughtful and considered post mate.
A couple of years ago Bernie Sanders the independent Senator from Vermont and enemy of the far right pointed out that Fidel Castro had done some good things in Cuba.
He may as well have said he liked to fondle small barnyard animals because everything after that was drowned out by the apoplectic outrage from not just the Republicans but the moderate Dems and of course, all the exiled Cubans too.
The reality is that Cuba under Castro raised the level of education and healthcare to become the best at both in the Caribbean, which I think we can all agree is a good thing no matter what else he did.
People like binary choices because they are easy.
On a scale of 0 to 10 when it comes to the disregard for human life when it comes to his own interests, Putin is doing a Spinal Tap and is sat at 11 But we and the Americans are a LOT closer to 10 than 0.
 

No, not "whataboutism" 
Nobody here is justifying the invasion. You've said that 4 times now and it's still not true. 
Putin has given reasons for invading Ukraine. I've not seen anybody agree that his reasons are good enough. For the 4th time. 
However, we have discussed IF his concerns actually have something behind them. And that is debatable. That doesn't mean if you recognise some of his concerns that you support his reaction. It doesn't. I know you'd like to pretend it does so you can come for a 5th time suggesting people are supporting his war. But it doesn't. 
Nato expansion is real. Proxy wars are real. And those are in discussion. 
On the Western side you have America that has 750 military bases in 80 countries. It has been in conflict for 91% of its existence and has been directly involved in almost 400 military conflicts. This threat, this expansion, this world power is entirely relevant to Putin's claims. It's not "whataboutism". It's relevant discussion to the thread. Otherwise the thread is nothing more than news updates you can get from BBC. 
You're not into debating other perspectives? Well it's a good job the people in power are because otherwise we'll be in WW3. There needs to be an understanding. 
When is a good time to mention the thousands upon thousands of civilians killed by America? When is a good time to bring up these war crimes? Never? Feck the Middle East? Feck the Palestinians humanitarian aid as USA sends billions to Israel? No, I'm sure you don't think like that. 
So, if you've witnessed the utter carnage brought upon people by American direct and indirect military conflicts then now, while people are in touch with the human cost of war, would be a good time to mention the Napalm strikes, Agent Orange, Atomic bombs, hospitals, schools, community centers bombed, the capture and torture of the likes of Abu Zubaydah, the drone strikes that kill only civilians.
Because we all agree this war in Ukraine is wrong. So there's little point to keep patting each other on the back in agreement. 
But does Putin raise some valid concerns? That is something we can discuss. And are doing until someone comes along pretending that if you say "yes" then you're loving Ukrainian kids being bombed. 
What do we do with our warmonger? We call him "sir"
100% if you felt double standards were being applied to you, you would question it. That's not whataboutism. That's understanding the rules we're playing by. 
So when Putin talks about liberating the Donbass republics who voted for independence and he talks about activity such as that by Azov Battallion... we call that ******** excuses. But when America goes to war in Vietnam then it's to fight for democracy and freedom. Nothing to do with fear of communist domino effect America feared and the controversial Gulf of Tonkin incident. 
America and Russia have opposed each other since the Dinosaurs. They oppose each other in conflicts all across the globe over the decades. They're enemies. It's surely all relevant? The Cuban Missile Crisis is relevant. You say whataboutism... yes, West and East have been playing this game forever. It's all relevant. 
Russia can not allow enemies to infiltrate Ukraine any more than America can allow it in Cuba or Vietnam. 
And I still think invading Ukraine was insane. But we will all understand WHY he did it. Because Ukraine will be neutral, it won't be Nato, DPR and LPR will be annexed/become Russia. Crimea too. It will be controversial. But that's the why. 
Is it Russia's Vietnam? I dunno. I'm not smart enough to answer 

I think not being a fan of the contributors is a perfectly legitimate criticism. What I don't understand is why people seem personally offended by articles being behind a paywall. What do they think The Athletic is, a charity?

So Mick Coop then.

So Mick Coop then.

So Mick Coop then.

The Courier
With Benedict Cumberbatch on Amazon Prime.
Mart Poom/10
If you like your spy films with car chases, fight sequences and lots of Bondlike gadgets you'll hate this.
Well, maybe you won't because I quite like those things in context, but as this is based heavily on a true story they wouldn't work at all.

Half an hour in or more I was a bit bored and the film is really about the second half or even last third.
BC is his usual brilliant self playing a salesman employed by MI6 and the CIA to act as an intermediary with a high-ranking Soviet spy looking to leak plans for the Soviet nuclear missile deployment to Cuba in the early 60s'.
If you don't know the story of Greville Wynne the main character (and I didn't, I confess), then don't look it up first. Wait until the film has finished and it will make it even better.
Edit: The situation in Ukraine makes the movie all the more poignant. 

I've made world-class dick moves in my time, and no doubt will moving forward.
I haven't quite got the pace I once had, but I can still spot an opening for one and thread it in there with precision.

In fairness, I think @Leeds Ram was probably using this definition of the word funny.
Difficult to explain or understand; strange or odd.
 

Phew, for a moment and even though this has been building for years, I thought we had no plan.

Phew, for a moment and even though this has been building for years, I thought we had no plan.

Phew, for a moment and even though this has been building for years, I thought we had no plan.

I'll add another by the BBC that was just as good imho, although it was last summer, Time with Sean Bean.
 

The company I work for has offices in Russia - home to 4000 employees
I say has - I mean had.
Company just withdrew and closed all its offices with immediate effect. 4000 employees out of work just like that
 

Congenital heart disease.
Or be a drug user.
Or a heavy smoker and/or drinker
Or have undiagnosed heart problems like a hole in the heart.
Or eat a poor diet.
Or rampant stress.
Or a combination of two or more of the above.
There are a number of things that can cause heart attacks in middle-aged men, but looking fit doesn't ever stop them from happening.

there's a lady model/actress of the adult variety named Paige Turnah.

I mentioned it a few weeks ago. Best thing I've seen in the last year or so.
Just finished This is Going to Hurt - that was really good too. A solid 7.5/10

Binge-watched am excellent little series in iPlayer last night called The Responder. I vaguely recall someone mentioning it here and the difficulty the main character (played by Martin Freeman) has in blurry lines of conduct. Had me gripped
Saunders/10

Genius cricketer who I *hated* when playing for Australia from the moment he sent down *that* ball.
His last tweet from yesterday is a gut puncher.
RIP
 

Genius cricketer who I *hated* when playing for Australia from the moment he sent down *that* ball.
His last tweet from yesterday is a gut puncher.
RIP
 

Congenital heart disease.
Or be a drug user.
Or a heavy smoker and/or drinker
Or have undiagnosed heart problems like a hole in the heart.
Or eat a poor diet.
Or rampant stress.
Or a combination of two or more of the above.
There are a number of things that can cause heart attacks in middle-aged men, but looking fit doesn't ever stop them from happening.