ariotofmyown

Probably just Cardiff still being bitter about that game postponed for snow right? Yeah, it's definitely that.

Nope! Invest in a chain of paella restaurants instead!

Excuse me?

Do they get two concussion subs ?

Since he's 29, had 5 fights as a professional boxer and is a sports agent of a bunch of small time players it's reasonable to assume he himself doesn't have the personal wealth to run the club and I've read reports in the news to back this up. He's also stated that he doesn't take money from family but even the family's wealth (whilst relatively substantial) doesn't seem enough to really run the club for a long period of time. One of the questions that needs to be answered is who is backing him? He's denying there are other backers but there must be. 

so did BZI and look at how that turned out... 

As the club is an institution that we surely all want to see continue to exist for our children and grandchildren there is an element of obligation that exists as part of our role as fans- that obligation is likely only ever really activated when the club is being mismanaged to the point of it going out of business but it is still there. 

I also had said "Probably as good as we could have hoped for today, without us winning." before saying that even a draw would have been worse if the bottom teams had won.

Probably as good as we could have hoped for today, without us winning.
Even a point would have been worse if any of the bottom 4 had won. 

Probably as good as we could have hoped for today, without us winning.
Even a point would have been worse if any of the bottom 4 had won. 

Probably as good as we could have hoped for today, without us winning.
Even a point would have been worse if any of the bottom 4 had won. 

Wycombe, Wednesday, Cov all spanked.

Rotherham peeing away their games in hand.

We'll be mathematically safe by the time we beat Preston. Job done.

"Close friend"
Do we actually know that? Are all friends/associates to be classed as "close friends" for the purposes of highlighting a point?
He didn't say that on the interview I saw on sky, he merely said that they have money and will spend on the club what is required to be successful without being reckless. "If it takes £20m or if it takes £150m then ok"
It's always better to listen to an actual interview than go on a headline tweet.

This just strikes me as ridiculous (as do your previous posts on this topic), of course as fans of the club and putting our hard earned cash into the club we have the right and obligation to hold the ownership to account if they are failing in their jobs. Football club owners in reality are pretty close to being custodians, they are owners of long standing institutions with an enormous role in local communities. This kind of attitude would have seen the 3 amigos hammer the nails in Derby's coffin over a decade ago when it took a combination of local reporters, the rams trust, and significant fan pressure to try and force those crooks out the club. 

No-one likes to wallow in misery- I hope Alonso comes in, does a fantastic job gets us to the promised land and makes us a force again. As a Derby county fan who wouldn't want that? Honestly, one of the best days I've had since my dad passing away a few years ago was going with my mum down to Wembley to cheer us on- why wouldn't I or any other Derby fan want to have those memories again?
The thing that worries me (and others) is that he's got 0 evidence to back any of this up, he doesn't have the money to run the club himself, his companies are basically shells and he's already had a run in with a club in this division the fans of which are largely thankful he's left them alone. I hope i am proven wrong, just like I hope I am proven wrong about Wayne's management but atm there is nothing to show beyond a press release and interviews that anyone with half a brain could do that to show he's not going to be a nightmare for us. 

I’d mostly agree. I’ll offer one positive though, he had a busy up with Chansiri over who they should hire. Chansiri wanted Pulis who he sacked a few weeks later.......Alonso wanted Paul Cook. 
At least this gives me some hope that he may be a bit more clued up on championship football than the average newcomer (so to speak).
That said the links to Southall are deeply concerning!

I find this argument that people are just being negative a bit crazy.
Everyone knows multiple examples of dodgy owners coming in and ruining clubs. Everyone laughs at the pathetic fit and proper person test by the League and knows it is pointless. 
With this new prospective owner, there are a few red/amber flags already. Struggling to see any clear positives yet. We all hope it turns out to be great, but nothing much suggests this yet.
When it was clear the Amigos were crooks, it was easy to ignore because Burley has us playing well. All we've got now is the buying players for 20 million quote. Surely no one is excited by that.

I find this argument that people are just being negative a bit crazy.
Everyone knows multiple examples of dodgy owners coming in and ruining clubs. Everyone laughs at the pathetic fit and proper person test by the League and knows it is pointless. 
With this new prospective owner, there are a few red/amber flags already. Struggling to see any clear positives yet. We all hope it turns out to be great, but nothing much suggests this yet.
When it was clear the Amigos were crooks, it was easy to ignore because Burley has us playing well. All we've got now is the buying players for 20 million quote. Surely no one is excited by that.

Don't be such a drama queen. Southall is just a close friend, so of course Alonso knows what he is like. He won't risk getting him involved in the club where Southall can steal from again. He's just a close friend, that's all. Absolutely nothing to worry about whatsoever. I think it's great he has close friends with experience within English football.

Duration promoted clubs spent in PL based on year they were promoted:
00/01 - 13, 11, 11
01/02 - 18*, 4, 1 
02/03 - 7, 1, 1
03/04 - 2, 1, 1
04/05 - 8, 6, 1
05/06 - 2, 1, 1
06/07 - 10, 1, 1
07/08 -10, 2, 1
08/09 - 3, 2, 1
09/10 - 8, 6, 1
10/11 - 7, 3, 2
11/12 - 9*, 9*, 1
12/13 - 8*, 2, 1
13/14 - 7*, 1, 1
14/15 - 5, 5, 1
15/16 - 4, 1, 1
16/17 - 4*, 4*, 2
17/18 - 3*, 1, 1
18/19 - 2*, 2*, 1
19/20 - 1*, 1*, 1*
* = Still in PL
They either stay up for a good 10 years, or go straight back down (1 or 2 years). Same pattern over the past 10 years. Typically, it's the bigger clubs (those with more income) who survive the longest - Newcastle, West Ham, Villa. Whereas it's the smaller clubs who go straight back down - Sheff United, Blackpool, Hull, Cardiff, etc... Hardly surprising news that a club with more money has a better chance of survival.
As I've mentioned in other threads in the past, in season 1, our budget would be on par with Palace, Norwich, Watford. Our revenue would exceed that of West Brom, Burnley, Sheff United, and Fulham. 
In year 2 or 3, once we start earning more through sponsors, we would make the small jump up to being on par with the likes of Southampton. 
Financially, breaking into the top 6 is an almost impossible task at this point. Leicester (soon to be 3 top 6 finishes in the last 6 years) aren't even half way to reaching that point. It would take a couple of years in Europe for us to join the 'next 6' of Leeds, Wolves, Leicester, Newcastle, Everton and West Ham.

Do you think the Wigan fans were right to try and hold their new owners to account? I have been a Rams fan for over 50 years, travelling up and down the country cheering on the team through thick and thin. Hopefully I will be here supporting my team long after Alonso departs but I think I have invested enough time, money and energy to ask questions of any new owner. I think ultimately it is our club and as has been seen over the last 12 months football is nothing without the fans.....

Why should you hold your owner to account? Who else is going to do it if not supporters? The local media?
Why is it so different to holding your local politicians to account, for example? Both have sizeable control and say over the future of something you care massively about, be that your local community or your football club. I’m really surprised that you think fans shouldn’t play this role and, even more so, that you think this “smacks of entitlement.”
Look at what has happened to some of the oldest clubs in this country under some stewardships. Were Bolton supporters, concerned about the takeover by Ken Anderson, smacked with entitlement?
It’s very easy to say “just wait until he’s done something” but what you’re doing there is essentially trying to make any of his previous completely irrelevant - but how can it be irrelevant when, at this stage, that is all we have to go on!
I think being vocal about the future of your football club and calling things out when you see them is a better option than just packing it in and saying: “Huh, maybe professional football just isn’t for me? ?‍♂️“

Maybe he should, I’m not out to defend him, just the right for members to post their condolences if they so which in a topic dedicated to his death.
Same applies to any politician, musician, film star when topics are open as you don’t know how they may have had an effect on their lives.
It’s just being respectful to other members that use this forum.
I don’t feel comfortable deciding who’s death can and can’t be joked about.

If only Phil would have heeded your advice on "time and place"......
During Prince Philip's last visit to India to mark the 50th anniversary of independence in 1997, he joined the Queen on a visit to Jallianwala Bagh in Amritsar, Punjab, where the royals laid a commemorative wreath at the site associated with General Dyer's orders to open fire on a large Baisakhi gathering in April 1919.
"Two thousand? It wasn't, was it," he questioned, as he passed by a plaque at the memorial, which read This place is saturated with the blood of about two thousand Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims who were martyred in a non-violent struggle".
"That's wrong. I was in the Navy with Dyer's son. That's a bit exaggerated it must include the wounded," he is reported to have said.

It’s natural to have concerns or nervous as Marco Gabbiadini said, would be surprised if Alonso himself didn’t have concerns. 
Ultimately unless any significant number of fans feel that strongly against him buying the club to protest (I’m not one), we have to judge the man as he says by the work he does and not his words.
Fans have been wrong to pre judge players, managers in the past, we have also been right. 
I personally try to go in to any kind of signing/appointment now with an open mind but not without reservations if needed. 
 

I'll not speak for ariotofmyown he can do that well enough for himself, But any DCFC supporter worth their salt wants the best, The best being honest players who pull on that shirt to give their best match in match out, A Manager that has the ability to attract the best talent available who WANT TO PLAY FOR DCFC and not just be here because it's a final pay day, A Manager that can motivate, That can match if not better the oppositions Manager, A Manager that has the players 100% attention on and off the pitch, An owner that is true to his word, That wants desperately as much success as the supporters do, Not being haulled up in the court of justice where football scullduggery is involved, To be proud to go to Pride Park, To feel that Buzz again, To tell your workmates your friends and your foes that "were back baby".
I'll not be there to watch, I'll be elsewhere, But I can assure you all my attention will be focussed on kick off times where DCFCs match days are concerned.
Be patient Boys and Girls don't ever forget...This is Derby County.

This is just where I’m at with it going on everything that has been put before me about this guy.
I’m absolutely open to having my mind changed. I hope it is! I hope I’m wrong! Because if I I’m not, we’ll all be wallowing in misery...