SillyBilly

25 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said:

I don't get the love for Mike Ashley

I don't think Quantuma have covered themselves in glory, but it's a reasonable question to ask here:

If MA's bid was the best for the club, why was he not the preferred bidder ?

The obvious answer is that his bid was no good

I've said all along that he's a vulture waiting to pick the bones off our corpse

Yes - MA buying the club is better than the club being liquidated, but I still think it will be a(nother) disaster if he takes over

Anyone can bid anything they want. Having the cash and liquid assets to get it done is another matter. I'm in business, filtering out time wasters is a skill you need to have. And one I would expect administrators to be adept at. Mel mentioned how many chancers come out of the woodwork himself. And he was sucked in by some too. Plenty of people will want a seat at the table, plenty of people don't deserve to even be sat in the lobby. Their bids mean nothing if nothing in the bank to back it up with. Let us hope this isn't the case here with Kirchner as the time and cost investment sunk into him by the administrators isn't insignificant. It will be as much on them if this falls through as Kirchner though. Their job isn't just the best bid IMO, it is also having adept judgement on the party most able to get a deal done. And any deal is better than no deal. 

1 hour ago, Tyler Durden said:

Either Sunderland or the Wendies might not be playing in League 1 next season.....

Aware hence why I mentioned both of them.....

Assuming the cumulative total is right the away attendance shows we're the largest draw in the division. We are a higher category game for a lot of clubs in the league. No different for when teams are in the Prem and the guaranteed sell outs are for when United/Liverpool etc. come to town, people don't get excited about watching their teams vs. Watford and in the Championship people aren't that excited when Hull are coming to town. Be interesting to see how much of a pull we are in League One now...as suspect we will push a lot of home gates up significantly. Sunderland are bigger than we are so would traditionally think they'd be no. 1 but they've been down there a while now, Wednesday arguably bigger/same size and not been down there that long. Could be same again next year. Lets hopefully not try it in League Two too soon though..

2 hours ago, Woodypecker said:

We already had a horrid, drawn-out sh !t show when Lionel (for all his great legacy of PPS etc) would not enable Gadsby & Co to take over the club 20 years ago, and the Amigos got control.

Another local 'super-fan', MM, seems to have taken the whole debacle to another, possibly fatal level.

WTF is going to pull us back from the brink? 

The Phoenix Club should be called DCFC Lemmings, as a permanent warning against pious, obstinate, ego-driven owners!

Mel's not fit to have his name mentioned in the same sentence as Lionel Pickering for me. Maybe nostalgia but Lionel's legacy was having left us with PPS, having built it for us and depleted his fortune to basically nothing in doing so. I'd think Lionel would be turning in his grave to see the ground being separated out from the club and potentially DCFC being homeless and/or liquidated. The difference I think is that I/we believe Mel has money (Pickering didn't) and so it is his in effect his choosing to put us in this situation.

Leicester aren't a big team, have as much interest in who played for them as I would do Burton Albion. Much more of this talk and it provides Lineker and co. more encouragement that Leicester actually matter and the EM Derby is actually Forest-Leicester.

Great vid. And a class act for Blackpool fans to clap off our players, for our team of academy players and aging pros they deserved as much and was humbling for them to get that reaction, we see it in Derby but it was nice for another club to see them for more than just a relegated team, as we do. We may be down ultimately but we're proud of the fight they showed 'til the end - we have felt more connection with these lads than any of the expensive signings that we thought Mel had well covered (but hadn't and cost us our ground in the process). Supposedly we were lauding it over the division with Mel at the helm...the reality is for many of us we've got our club back for the first time in years, just as we're being relegated to a league we haven't played in for 40 years...such is football. League One here we come :).

Great way to end our away season with that monkey off our back now for next year. Great support today but no different to the excellent support we've had all season and hope we continue that form in the stands in League One next year. Also credit to Blackpool fans, one of the few clubs in the league that has not gloated at our potential liquidation and demise and shown some support. A class showing and wish them all the best in the Championship next year, hope they can get promoted again to the Prem.

3 hours ago, Jubbs said:

I'm sure the folks over at OTIB are reading this. I have never seen a fan base have such an irrelevant, one sided hatred towards one club. A 121 page thread on us is completely baffling, as to me, Bristol City are a nothing club with absolutely no relevance towards Derby in any way, shape or form. Have I missed something historically?
 

It is interesting how many clubs now seemingly have beef with us, even if we don't recognise it ourselves. Creating a lot more intrigue in our games for sure.

Forest, Fester (obvious ones)

Leeds (historical but with the added bite from the recent tussles we had in the Champ)

Boro and Wycombe (financial)

Sheff Weds (who think we should have been relegated in lieu of them)

QPR (seem to relish in putting misery on us).

Fulham (not got over 1983)

I daresay one or two others from our fan behaviour too (didn't cover ourselves in glory at Cov etc.)

Add in a lot of midland rivalries that we have, the likes of us and Stoke aren't on each others' Xmas card lists.

If you start throwing Bristol City and others in the mix (thus relegating us to Millwall levels of love) then we don't really have a friend left in football.

We'll have to start nicking Millwall's songs, "We're Derby County, no-one likes us, no-one likes us, we don't care...".

I don't see it that QPR have relegated us, 21 points did that. Rooney went for it today in those final few minutes, we arguably lost because of it but he had no choice and I 100% back his decision to do it - we needed the win. Could've played safe and taken it another week and deferred the inevitable longer but at least we can move on now. I hope we can find some strikers next year, as much heart as we've had, we've down because of being so toothless.

5 minutes ago, Steve How Hard? said:

A point for us and a loss for Reading still keeps us in it. However we may as well go all out for a win as a loss for both us and Reading leaves us in pretty much the same scenario as we are currently standing. 

Point does nothing but defer relegation. Win and a Reading loss gives the faintest hope alive.

1 minute ago, Jimbo Ram said:

How are Barnsley dead and buried, the better side by all accounts. Have we tested their keeper yet? A draw still probably not enough…..

All 3 are basically dead and buried if we're talking semantics, the points gap is 9 points... We're on a slither of hope, lets face it. Lets not stop you being a killjoy though...

Would take that at half time, we're still in this, Reading losing, Barnsley dead and buried as it stands. We need to go for it second half now though, all or nothing. I'd rather us be relegated throwing the kitchen sink, I don't think a point even with a Reading loss would keep us up. So lets go all out!

2 minutes ago, sage said:

Yeh we should pump it long to that big target man

better to lose the ball at the top of the pitch than on the edge of your own box. Doing something different, anything, is hardly a problem when you look at our away form...

8 hours ago, SirBrian said:

Ashley was my original choice, however he sold Newcastle for a reported £350 million, he could have bought Derby for around £50 million making himself a very good return of around £300 million, yet he has sat back and watched the club disintigrate with the loss of the future academy players for peanuts, and alongside established senior players that the club have had to sell.

The structure of the club is broken and the rebuild of the club need not have been needed if Ashley had stepped in and bought the club, 2 to 3 months ago he would have had a team along with a fantastic academy already in place,

Ashley is a big NO

Derby are nowhere near the size of Newcastle who pack out 52k every week so not sure what relevance £350M has. And in terms of wealthiness of buyers to be paying that sort of money then Ashley sold to arguably the richest entity in the world, the Saudi state. They are in a club of one in terms of purchasing power to pay a fee like that. He must've thought he'd been dreaming when they came along.

He'd have done well to sell us for £100M. And having bought us for £50M (your numbers) requiring a whole new playing squad and 2 promotions to even get a chance of a 8 figure valuation then I'd suggest the risk isn't worth the reward at that price hence probably walked away if the number can't go low enough. With a business head on we should all be able to see the same, like Ashley will have no doubt done, so stripping out the emotion of being a fan, I've no issues whatsoever with him.

I've read the homepage of Slync a few times over, as a businessman myself I've no idea what they do but it must be good and clever tho!

"We've entered a new age of logistics, where change is constant and walled-off software is not enough to overcome the process challenges that take place across the multi-enterprise supply chain. That’s why Slync.io takes a multidimensional approach to solving logistics problems — allowing enterprises to innovate at the pace of change while building a foundation for a fully-digital future".

I thought I understood logistics until I started reading through that website...?

Hopefully we get cleaner comms for us simple Derby folk.

1 hour ago, B4ev6is said:

Well it brothers me last thing is club getting more fines that it can not pay.

Doesn't make a blind bit of difference. £50M is the number being touted to save the club. We've either got someone prepared to pay that sum and we survive or we do not. Not that it is even relevant now but a few £k fine is not even a grain of sand in the desert of our financial problems. We're a little bit beyond going around switching the lights off in the offices of PP to save money.

Not really bothered whether some fans decide to go onto a piece of grass before or after a game of football. People are being blown up in Europe, some context is needed.

Away form is absolutely depressing. Fair play to those that have travelled this season regularly, top marks. I'm not raging given I fully expected us to go down (home form has been better than expected on flipside) but if it does happen we will rue our abysmal showing on the road as our condemnation and on that basis we can't complain. We will left with the question why we didn't try and be a little more radical to change things given we're not picking up any points at all. Nothing to lose when we lose all the time...

3 minutes ago, Shipley Ram said:

I have a dilema about Blackburn, my Mrs's says it's a stupid idea to go and I used to meet up with my dad who doesn't do away games any more so I'd be on my own. On the other hand I want a night match and unlike home games I can get a train home. Go on tell me it's a good idea.

Lots of Rams fans like me don't know anyone else (friends wise) or family (within distance) that support the club. So if we didn't go alone we wouldn't go at all. Go for it. I only go to the away games generally that are near me and always go alone, I usually find people to have a chat with.

Still think there is a point in this if we can get an early goal. But by god we have to tighten up at the back. That was a horror show at the back. Grates me that someone like Rowett can do a job on us, so uninspiring but effective. Him and Millwall are the perfect fit.

Millwall should have about 4-5, some glorious chances.

I'd call tonight a must win if we're to pull this off, doesn't need to be mathematically proven as still on or otherwise to realise tonight is very big as the games dwindle down. We're simply not going to win a lot of our away games and with a points deficit to overhaul then home at Millwall has to be won IMO. I am just thankful we are making a fist of it at this stage, if it doesn't happen then with a -21 points deficit we can hardly be surprised. So it is still all upside for me; if we're relegated at the end of it then what else did we expect?

Didn't even consider booing Marriott was a possibility, I hope not on reflection. Plenty of potential, a lot unrealised. Certainly no issues with him though. Whomever Derby fans seem to target tend to do very well against us, feeds them with all the motivation they need. Sharp gets a lot of stick and scores goals for fun against us. Holmes and Lyle Taylor spring to mind recently, really wish we'd bottle it so we don't have to witness the inevitable smirking and gesticulating after the pantomimes villains bang the goal in.

21 hours ago, SouthStandDan said:

 

Mock the week is an abomination. I used to enjoy watching it years ago when they'd have a variety of comedians on, it made the show flow and the contrast in styles made it entertaining. Now it's the same style of dull comedy, utter dross.

 

How long has that been going? Think that was the last one I could watch and feels like a good 7+ years since its been watchable, but may just be my mind exaggerating comedy's demise. 

Comedy at some point or other, particularly on the BBC, started being represented by a disproportional share of lefty type comedians, where the perfect gag was something to do with a Tory. Funny in isolation (I used to enjoy the variety of comedians on shows like Mock the Week), an hour of it from 80% of the panellists and you start feeling like it is a lecture or a sermon. This appears to have permeated right the way through the BBC where it increasingly stopped being interested in about half the country (or a even slightly majority in the case of Brexit if I dare go there). Hence why a once fantastic institution loved by the whole of Britain will die. I now couldn't care if it gets canned as I simply haven't watched its content in years. I visit BBC news website by habit but increasingly I read behind paywalls anyway because of how poor journalism has become in general so no great loss if that went. Seems I am not the only one either. I've not even had a TV licence for 4 years.

Weren't worth a point today, Boro deserved their win. But by god those 4 goals weren't pretty to watch from our point of view. Very uncharacteristic of us, losing Jagielka has been a major blow as we're now conceding far more often. The kamikaze style play from the back again is getting a bit concerning, when we score so few it is not ideal to be presenting (typically) one glorious chance per game to the oppo courtesy of our refusal to punt it upfield.