WilkoRam

This sort of thing baffles me. Some players can make a mistake and it’s hardly mentioned, others are hounded and told to get out of the club. If you swapped Byrne and Joz around for the first goal, Joz would still be getting the blame for it. Both failed to stay alert to where the Posh player was and both at fault. Others were at fault for the 2nd goal. Yet, it all comes down to Joz. Before that moment, I thought he did well, he had some good bits of possession, took players on successfully and he looked better with his control, which is usually a point of frustration with me about him. But he switches off (along with others) and he gets this, which is a huge overreaction 

To be honest pal, I understand your point and the record is poor under any circumstances but I don’t see what this revolving door of managers will achieve when there are bigger issues at the club that are a bigger contributing factor to our current situation. 

This sort of thing baffles me. Some players can make a mistake and it’s hardly mentioned, others are hounded and told to get out of the club. If you swapped Byrne and Joz around for the first goal, Joz would still be getting the blame for it. Both failed to stay alert to where the Posh player was and both at fault. Others were at fault for the 2nd goal. Yet, it all comes down to Joz. Before that moment, I thought he did well, he had some good bits of possession, took players on successfully and he looked better with his control, which is usually a point of frustration with me about him. But he switches off (along with others) and he gets this, which is a huge overreaction 

This sort of thing baffles me. Some players can make a mistake and it’s hardly mentioned, others are hounded and told to get out of the club. If you swapped Byrne and Joz around for the first goal, Joz would still be getting the blame for it. Both failed to stay alert to where the Posh player was and both at fault. Others were at fault for the 2nd goal. Yet, it all comes down to Joz. Before that moment, I thought he did well, he had some good bits of possession, took players on successfully and he looked better with his control, which is usually a point of frustration with me about him. But he switches off (along with others) and he gets this, which is a huge overreaction 

I think, having looked at it again, he was expecting their guy to be on the outside and positioned himself for that, but didn’t look, when he realised he was inside it was too late. But the cross still needs to be defended. Byrne is in there and then stops, where their guy doesn’t. Fozzy, Joz and Byrne all should do better. 

This sort of thing baffles me. Some players can make a mistake and it’s hardly mentioned, others are hounded and told to get out of the club. If you swapped Byrne and Joz around for the first goal, Joz would still be getting the blame for it. Both failed to stay alert to where the Posh player was and both at fault. Others were at fault for the 2nd goal. Yet, it all comes down to Joz. Before that moment, I thought he did well, he had some good bits of possession, took players on successfully and he looked better with his control, which is usually a point of frustration with me about him. But he switches off (along with others) and he gets this, which is a huge overreaction 

To be honest pal, I understand your point and the record is poor under any circumstances but I don’t see what this revolving door of managers will achieve when there are bigger issues at the club that are a bigger contributing factor to our current situation. 

This sort of thing baffles me. Some players can make a mistake and it’s hardly mentioned, others are hounded and told to get out of the club. If you swapped Byrne and Joz around for the first goal, Joz would still be getting the blame for it. Both failed to stay alert to where the Posh player was and both at fault. Others were at fault for the 2nd goal. Yet, it all comes down to Joz. Before that moment, I thought he did well, he had some good bits of possession, took players on successfully and he looked better with his control, which is usually a point of frustration with me about him. But he switches off (along with others) and he gets this, which is a huge overreaction 

To be honest pal, I understand your point and the record is poor under any circumstances but I don’t see what this revolving door of managers will achieve when there are bigger issues at the club that are a bigger contributing factor to our current situation. 

I think, having looked at it again, he was expecting their guy to be on the outside and positioned himself for that, but didn’t look, when he realised he was inside it was too late. But the cross still needs to be defended. Byrne is in there and then stops, where their guy doesn’t. Fozzy, Joz and Byrne all should do better. 

I think, having looked at it again, he was expecting their guy to be on the outside and positioned himself for that, but didn’t look, when he realised he was inside it was too late. But the cross still needs to be defended. Byrne is in there and then stops, where their guy doesn’t. Fozzy, Joz and Byrne all should do better. 

I thought we all understood that the squad and management were up against it and it was time for better or worse to stick with them? Didn't last long did it. 

Wow, how people can blame him for losing us the game is a joke. Byrne, Sibley, Forsyth and a few others all made mistakes for 1 goal or both.
I wouldn't be interested in the club if I got slated every game and I bleed black and white!

He didn't. He had at least a couple of runs at them with more than a couple of defenders around him. I seem to remember he got forward and into position for a ball to be played to him to run onto, didn't happen. 
This need to blame him for everything is impossible to understand. What did he do to Byrne btw?

Negative, finger pointing, scape goat making, blame game, headless, thoughtless, toys from pram attitude and totally without vision. I am not talking about Joz, As I am sure you will have gathered. 

This is not uncommon for a late substitute. It happens all over, will happen in many other games today. He's a talented footballer who isn't being utilised correctly and will go on to do well at another club if he goes. This reactionary nonsense as if he has made the most horrendous error of all time and not just reacted slightly late is funny. 

Forsyth and Byrne made mistakes for the goal as well. He was a late substitute that switched off, it's annoying but is something that commonly happens at all clubs. Give it a rest. 

For crying out loud … get off his back. He made a mistake, so did Sibley
 
 

Absolute beaut! best in years. 

I just want to apologise for the delay, my absence, my handling of the situation and try to explain what has happened.
The meeting on Wednesday was scheduled to end at 8.45pm, my last train home was 9.33pm, I slipped out just after 9pm as I didn’t have clothes, medication, toiletries with me as I wasn’t planning on staying overnight.
When the meeting had finished, an agreement was made where one statement would be written and signed off by all groups, this is the first time anything like this had been agreed, I was under the impression we would be allowed to report back as normal.
Being completely unaware of this, whilst waiting for my train I saw a conversation take place on my Twitter timeline discussing the meeting minutes, when would they be out.
I replied, that the meeting minutes were not taken and we would be sharing the information ourselves, which as I say I was under the impression would be allowed, why else attend? I thought I was being helpful.
Now I can see on reflection I was clearly naive in not appreciating the number of fans waiting online for what was said at the meeting, would see the tweet whilst was part of a conversation, which was also public and could be seen and shared by others. The tweet blew up online having been retweeted, I’m not exaggerating when I say maybe hundred or more replies, some abusive to the point where I had to turn notifications off as my phone was freezing with as I came back into an area with phone signal.
On the forum I did pre warn members not to expect anything Wednesday evening, the minutes can sometimes take a few days to a couple of weeks before being released. I was going with the intention of asking the club if the minutes could be released within 24 hours or that we could release the information immediately. Obviously once we was told the minutes would not be taken all that went out the window and believed we was free to report back immediately, and that was the plan.
Again, I was clearly naive to the fact fans on Twitter would not be aware of this, so when I wasn’t replying to all the tweets with thumbs up or down if it’s good news, or are we going to have a club next week the levels of abuse increased, despite my plea for being understanding I wasn’t in the position to do so.
With my write up, I had no intention of adding any personal opinion, it would be just what was said and allow you all to read and take it as you will.
As you will be well aware, all fans see things differently and I didn’t want to raise any expectations or disappoint fans, then receive more abuse as it wasn’t what they were expecting.
I put myself in this situation through naivety, but I don’t accept that the abuse was warranted at all, I have removed the twitter account from my devices and will no longer be active on that account, opting now for a private account as I have no interest in twitter fame.
I would seriously urge anyone that did send me abusive tweets to have a think how they talk to people online and their demands, if this is this what celebrities have to deal with on a daily basis, I’m glad I’m just a nobody!
Punjabi Rams, who I honestly can’t thank enough stepped in and put some tweets out from their account to give some information in my defence. You guys are awesome, didn’t need to do that but again, I honestly can’t thank you enough. Quick plug www.punjabirams.co.uk, @PunjabiRams on Twitter, go give them a follow if you are on there.
On the train home I started to do the write up on my notes app, realising I need to get this out asap, first thing to defuse the situation I felt I had created.
Thursday morning, as I was consulting my notes and finishing off the write up, there was a few things I wanted to fact check with the club were totally accurate, there has been times where things have been misheard in the past (Boycie ahem) and needed correcting, I didn’t want this to happen. We’re human, mistakes can happen, I believed I had time to ensure there were none.
I decided, and this was not requested by the club but to send my write up to them, asking if they could read it over and everything I had written was totally accurate, leaving ??? <—— fact checks where I was a little cautious over.
They agreed and I again naively yet again assumed that this would be back with me in a few hours……despite the previous night listening to just how busy they have been.
Now whilst I understand and totally agree that this meeting is important, the club staff are as I’m sure you can imagine really busy, now I need to really stress here that this is in no way the fault of the club, this is on me 100%.
No tweet, no forum post, none of this situation exists.
Meanwhile The Supporters Charter Group are scratching their heads as to why I’ve gone it alone, I can only apologise to them also, as I say I was under the impression that we would all be reporting back ourselves which I have explained privately with them.
A single statement isn’t something I would have been personally happy with but that is what was agreed in my absence.
I haven’t felt comfortable coming back on the forum if I'm honest, ignoring the fact I insinuated what was said at the meeting would be out Thursday on the forum, I feel like I have let you all down and for that I’m sorry.
Just to add, this apology wasn’t asked for, it's something I feel is owed to you all.
Should someone have gone that could have stayed all evening? Ideally yes, although Paul (Boycie) was unavailable to attend. Since the formation of 2017 it has only been either myself or Paul that has attended, I didn’t feel it would be right to send someone new which in hindsight was the correct call, they may have also not been able to attend until the end of what I’m led to believe turned out to be almost a 4 hour long meeting, putting themselves unwittingly into a similar situation I have.
I know you are all frustrated, the accusations of attention seeking, sitting on information, teasing, trying to get more views, followers etc. and even censorship on the forum are simply not true, they come from people that do not know me or how the forum is run at all, which is disappointing hearing it said by members that have been on the forum for a number of years now.
Finally, I do want to say thank you to those who have sent supportive texts, PM’s, DM’s, tweets you name it over the last few days, despite asking to be given time, it’s you who I put the hours in for, I will learn from this and work on handling things better in the future.
I would also like to thank the moderators who have been trying their best to keep on top of the situation, without them this forum would have crashed and burned over the last few days so please be respectful to them, even if at times you do not agree with decisions they have made. 
David
 

If I go to the bank tomorrow and withdraw all the money in my account, savings and shares, place all of it on red - does that make me a genius if I win and an idiot if I lose? 
Even if I win, I’m still a careless idiot for even putting my families future in that balance. The decisions made my Mel would’ve been tolerable HAD we won the bet, but as we didn’t we are now paying the price. 
It’s that kind of recklessness that was always going to catch up with us regardless, even more so when you consider the array of bad choices we make a seasonal basis. 

Always felt like FFP or P&S do nothing to tackle the problem they were set out to achieve.  They were implemented to stop teams overspending, gambling on success but failing and crumbling.  It hasn’t prevented this, it’s just made it more of a gamble. In the Championship, overspend and pull it off and you get promoted and face no punishment, but fail and you’re left in a worse position than you would have been without FFP. Before you’d be in a financial state, now you’re in a financial state, face a fine, transfer embargo and points deduction.  I’m sure these are intended to act as a deterrent so that people stick within the rules, however, they won’t and they’ll constantly try and find loopholes due to the lack of a level playing field. 
 
a fairer way to level things out would be to set a transfer budget that all clubs have to stay within. You can spend more than say £20m on players in a year and every club has an overall wage limit to stick to. That way, even those with parachute payments get no unfair advantage as they have the same wage and transfer budget. That said, they’ll need to ensure contracts given in the prem at suitably structured to include a wage reduction should they get relegated. 
 
I am no expert so feel free to rip the idea to shreds if it’s actually nonsense. 

Always felt like FFP or P&S do nothing to tackle the problem they were set out to achieve.  They were implemented to stop teams overspending, gambling on success but failing and crumbling.  It hasn’t prevented this, it’s just made it more of a gamble. In the Championship, overspend and pull it off and you get promoted and face no punishment, but fail and you’re left in a worse position than you would have been without FFP. Before you’d be in a financial state, now you’re in a financial state, face a fine, transfer embargo and points deduction.  I’m sure these are intended to act as a deterrent so that people stick within the rules, however, they won’t and they’ll constantly try and find loopholes due to the lack of a level playing field. 
 
a fairer way to level things out would be to set a transfer budget that all clubs have to stay within. You can spend more than say £20m on players in a year and every club has an overall wage limit to stick to. That way, even those with parachute payments get no unfair advantage as they have the same wage and transfer budget. That said, they’ll need to ensure contracts given in the prem at suitably structured to include a wage reduction should they get relegated. 
 
I am no expert so feel free to rip the idea to shreds if it’s actually nonsense. 

Always felt like FFP or P&S do nothing to tackle the problem they were set out to achieve.  They were implemented to stop teams overspending, gambling on success but failing and crumbling.  It hasn’t prevented this, it’s just made it more of a gamble. In the Championship, overspend and pull it off and you get promoted and face no punishment, but fail and you’re left in a worse position than you would have been without FFP. Before you’d be in a financial state, now you’re in a financial state, face a fine, transfer embargo and points deduction.  I’m sure these are intended to act as a deterrent so that people stick within the rules, however, they won’t and they’ll constantly try and find loopholes due to the lack of a level playing field. 
 
a fairer way to level things out would be to set a transfer budget that all clubs have to stay within. You can spend more than say £20m on players in a year and every club has an overall wage limit to stick to. That way, even those with parachute payments get no unfair advantage as they have the same wage and transfer budget. That said, they’ll need to ensure contracts given in the prem at suitably structured to include a wage reduction should they get relegated. 
 
I am no expert so feel free to rip the idea to shreds if it’s actually nonsense.