Dordogne-Ram

I'm not sure about your original post about non-payment of football creditors leading to a -15 point deduction, because I'm pretty sure that in that case the likely outcome would be having the club's Golden Share, which ensures entry to the EFL, withdrawn - I think the -15 points is for failure to pay 25% of money due to non-football creditors?

I can hear a voice…..‘they’re worth much more than that, 80 mill at least’ 😊

Pro decision:
Chris Martin winning a penalty vs Blackpool 13/14. He barely got touched, took about 5 big strides, realised he didn't have control of the ball, fell crash bang on the deck. Ref blew the whistle. Comical decision, classic wardrobe.
 
Worst decision:
I know it has been mentioned plenty of times (deservedly so), Atwell disallowing the Addison headed goal vs Red Dogs. Scandalous. The roof blew off Pride Park in pure anger. If Rob Earnshaw had scored the winner from running down the field afterwards, I don't think Atwell would have made it out of Derby alive. The state of refereeing in this country is summed up by that man being one of our "elite officials" yet he refereed that match and the Watford ghost goal in the same season.
 

I'd say Derby is no worse than many other small cities. 
The Museum of Making is an internationally award-winning museum.
The Pickford collection is world-renowned for being hosted in the city.
Our engineering past and present is awe-inspiring.
Festivals like Format and Feste attract thousands to the city.
Derbion, not to everyone's tastes, but is an excellent shopping destination.
Darley, Markeaton and Allestree parks all in walking distance, Peaks and Dales a short drive.
Yes, St Peters St had a drug problem, but has improved from 5-10yrs ago. It still needs help, lots of empty shops but no different to any other city.
Huge numbers of homes are being built in the city centre, the Goods Yard is being rebuilt, a new performance venue is imminent, as is a new business school.
It's not perfect, but efforts are being made to improve it and if you are linked to the city, it would be better served by not running it down all the time.
Articles like the Which one are lazy, reductive and usually written by sneering journalists who haven't left London in a decade. So yes, Derby isn't as easy to get around as the capital, and it doesn't have the same level of cultural facilities, perhaps investment in our region that matches what other regions receive would help.
And it's a far better place than Stoke at the very least!

Great graphic on Instagram from @ramscentral_ 
 

BTW, Corey Smith has reposted every good wish from fans on there. What a gent! 
Think I'll miss him the most from those released so far.

Actually it was Steve Emery's leg that was broken, in several places. An horrendous tackle that would have put even well known hard men to shame.

Some decent messages from Korey and Waggy. They did their bit, so appreciate them both.👍

For those who can't view this link, it's Waggy's farewell message:

😢 in the end he was a surprisingly good addition to the club. There’s a sense of closure in a way that a number of those who joined after admin to help rebuild the club are heading off with a sort of “mission accomplished”. 

I disagree. There was a home game mid season and Fozzy was in a race for the ball with a younger attacker, can’t remember who, no half yard, right foot advantage. He won it, (just !)
Also .. watch how he heads a ball .. one of the few who can direct a defensive header to a white shirt. He’s also cute enough to play the line ball inside or outside to a runner he has actually seen. No he isn’t the dynamic striding forward man that he was 10 years ago but he is an able and intelligent footballer with another season in him. Not retrograde .. intelligent use of a loyal and experienced player. 

Joe came to us without a regular first team spot, probably on a modest wage, made the Number One shirt his own and won this season's Golden Glove for League One.
He will be in demand, quite a change for a player who two seasons ago wasn't getting game time.
His stock has never been higher and it's a short career (especially for someone breaking through relatively late). He will be maximising that for the future of his family. 
I enjoyed his time here at Derby, he was quite a character, especially when in front of us away fans. I wish him all the best. 

He’s still a lot taller than Les Green.

I knew his surname started with an E. Not bad for someone who cannot remember what he did yesterday!!!!😬

You are a tough man!
Thought he was great before his injury. Our only proper senior 'club' man who can offer cover as full back/wing back and center half. 
Doubt he's breaking the bank. 
Happy for him.

Personally I think Smith’s a shame as he did a solid job and seemed a good experienced pro to have around, but no room for sentiment I suppose and if there are younger options we can sign with his wages OR provide pathways to the likes of Robinson/Allen etc then I guess there’s sense in it. 
He gets a lot of credit from me for being a sort of bargain basement “Carrick” the last two years, did the basics of the game consistently to allow others the opportunity to play. 

Surprised we didn't offer Korey a year personally thought his performances at the end of the season were a big help in us going up.

I know this will trigger some people! But I was reading Simon Jordan's book and he talked about Palace's promotion to the Premier League and all the riches that awaited. He then dissected all the promotion bonuses he needed to pay, all the fees for players with add ons, then the agents on within an instant asking for an increase in wages, then the additional costs for being in a higher league. Before getting into buying new players who want more money because they know they are needed to take you to the next level.
Obviously it's a different scenario but as the link @oldben sent shows, all the clubs who compete with the parachute payment clubs are pretty much spending more than their turnover on players/players wages 
It's a pretty desperate picture for an owner and I really hope fans aren't going to start to turn on Clowes if/when he doesn't fancy throwing away many more millions of his own hard-earned cash.

Aisle let you know. 

I honestly believe he’s one of those who breathe the club with every breath. He will be cover almost certainly, but his legs haven’t gone, he could stand in, in 3 different positions and give a good account of himself. 

And I guess we can close the thread of 'best outfield performance by a goalkeeper against Derby' with one word. Pooooom!

Transparent about it too, to his credit. Said in an interview that he told the players before the last game that it would be the last time a lot of them played together.
Pro footballers have to roll with the punches as there's little room for sentiment in the modern game. That said, if all those cited as leaving do actually go, there'll be a good few I miss.

Whenever I manage to get up for a game and the majority of the ground start singing that chant really gets me. 
Great to hear everybody in fine voice and its sounds amazing, but it is a nod back to the tough times we have been through and are coming out of.  
I am in my own little Derby bubble down here, but the worry was all consuming back then, looking on here and the DET for updates and any crumb of positive news.  You don't know what you've got till its (almost) gone.
 

Disagree with Nelson being quiet. Watch a game back, he spends 90 mins directing traffic and positions etc. Loads of pointing and shouting. It's something he really impressed me with, doesn't need an armband to be a leader.

Was there for that, absolutely awful challenge from Gow. 
It was definitely Steve Emery who got his leg broken.

My favourite season in the last 20(?) years is the George burley season. 
 
Powerful attacking football with a bunch of foreign gems that would have set us up for the next 5 seasons of challenging had we not had those horrible b******* selling them for peanuts.