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Question for the Forum. Shouldn’t these financial checks, have been completed way before the completion date and Q would have insisted on that. CK could have then parked the money in a UK account ready for transfer on the said date, or am I being too simplistic?

Lawrence's second goal against sheff utd was "vintage" festy. Thats what he is all about. Knocking it through gaps and using his pace and power to get on the end. Anyone who says they were not excited to see him burst past their 2 players is lying.

One thing for sure, is that left back for Hull will be glad to see the back of him. As Festy had him on toast.
Having pace and power is enough to create havoc in the second division, and on his day he was unplayable.
He’s the sort of player that gets people off their seats, and I’ll miss that excitement when he was one on one with space behind…

Billy Steel

About kircher when someone said he does not care about football that is not true at all he said his dad played football in the states and his sister does and so does most of the family and he wants make us successful again and that shows he cares and I just wish people stop being negative quite clearly he wants derby and rooney can see ambersation for this great club and rooney got drive and grit to make us great again.

Is this really the plaice for all these comments?

Of all the books written on Derby County, Pride has been the best by a country mile. I thought Pitch's production was wonderful. I do hope the one after this happens to be the present saga, fully explained and dissected, it requires a book, and a properly researched one with heart. I know Pride nearly had an interview with Richard Keogh, but interviews with him, Mel, Alonso, the Sheikh, all those that bid, the administrators, the MPs, players, management, journalists, supporters groups, the new owner(?), EFL etc, would be such a read if it could happen. Players that have departed like Bradley Johnson, Chris Martin and Ikechi Anya would be an interesting insight most would love to learn about.

The quality of people who openly despise us means it's of little relevance.  Lets hope they add Reading, Stoke, Boro with their tax bill, all those who write of massive sums with loss covering share issue and interchanging players between clubs for FFP purposes to the list .  Hope they all enjoy self flagellating themselves because it's all of them.  

Well it might be the glue on the desk next to me having an effect but perhaps it is nothing more sinister than cashflow. CK knows that he needs to help rebuild the squad and the academy after it has been shredded by the last couple of years and if he throws 23million at the ground too then it will impact on what is an urgent rebuild without selling off some hard won assets. Someone says OK, well if the stadium is a problem then we'll buy it and you can rent it for the following very reasonable rate on the grounds that we didn't really pay that much for it in the grand scheme of things.
Someone will say "See he's got no money" but 1) That's no necessarily true and 2) Surely doing this more cautiously is what we want. Lets pay competitive wages and reasonable fees but surely nobody wants to see big borrowing if it isn't a cash gift of to be written off as other clubs are doing.
Might be total nonsense of course but lets be honest, we are all speculating anyway !

Why, though, was Kirchner's bid in November ever rejected, £61m that included Pride Park, later to be underbid by the Binnies, Appleby and Ashley at £28m minus Pride Park? And this raged on for a further four months. Kirchner's parting statement in December was: "Only getting worse as player contracts expire, club becomes much less valuable without the proper moves in January." Adding, "he had 'very little engagement with Quantuma'."
Then we had the Boro debacle to add, a further £4m loan from Dell, many players gone, no contracts able to be signed, and, ultimately, relegation because we could not add to the squad. Other than that, I agree, a great job by Quantuma – £3.8m costs and rising.
Comms could have been better, sure they could, at £650 an hour for just one member of staff to say hi.
No thanks, I hope no other club ever have them as administrators.

Well all those having to use food banks because their energy bill is tripling, they should just shut up, put a jumper on and be happy Shell made £9.1bn profit between January and March this year, while BP only made £6.1bn. Suck it up and get a better paid job, it is as simple as that, no right to complain. I only hope you are not in charge of season ticket prices this year.

Well all those having to use food banks because their energy bill is tripling, they should just shut up, put a jumper on and be happy Shell made £9.1bn profit between January and March this year, while BP only made £6.1bn. Suck it up and get a better paid job, it is as simple as that, no right to complain. I only hope you are not in charge of season ticket prices this year.

Why, though, was Kirchner's bid in November ever rejected, £61m that included Pride Park, later to be underbid by the Binnies, Appleby and Ashley at £28m minus Pride Park? And this raged on for a further four months. Kirchner's parting statement in December was: "Only getting worse as player contracts expire, club becomes much less valuable without the proper moves in January." Adding, "he had 'very little engagement with Quantuma'."
Then we had the Boro debacle to add, a further £4m loan from Dell, many players gone, no contracts able to be signed, and, ultimately, relegation because we could not add to the squad. Other than that, I agree, a great job by Quantuma – £3.8m costs and rising.
Comms could have been better, sure they could, at £650 an hour for just one member of staff to say hi.
No thanks, I hope no other club ever have them as administrators.

Okay, I've handed in my notice and signed up to train as an administrator, so I too can earn three lifetime's wages in only six months. To comment on football matters I am taking my coaching badges. And so that I can be sure all facts I quote I will run them through the BBC fact checking system first.

Why, though, was Kirchner's bid in November ever rejected, £61m that included Pride Park, later to be underbid by the Binnies, Appleby and Ashley at £28m minus Pride Park? And this raged on for a further four months. Kirchner's parting statement in December was: "Only getting worse as player contracts expire, club becomes much less valuable without the proper moves in January." Adding, "he had 'very little engagement with Quantuma'."
Then we had the Boro debacle to add, a further £4m loan from Dell, many players gone, no contracts able to be signed, and, ultimately, relegation because we could not add to the squad. Other than that, I agree, a great job by Quantuma – £3.8m costs and rising.
Comms could have been better, sure they could, at £650 an hour for just one member of staff to say hi.
No thanks, I hope no other club ever have them as administrators.

I see the doom-mongers are still scuttling around. The first bit of confirmed progress we've had in months yet they just can't resist putting in their pessimistic comments - you do have to wonder if everything else in their lives is surrounded in negativity.
Most fans who have endured the last couple of years will probably agree that all is not now cut and dried but let's enjoy the fact that at last there is some light at the end of this dark tunnel and it doesn't automatically mean there's a train coming full pelt towards us.
Today is a good day, we've not had many of them recently so for pity sake enjoy it!

Not having a go, but how much live football have you watched ? 
The one thing he isn’t is one footed. It’s a long time since I’ve seen a wide player who can cut in ( his favourite, agreed ) but regularly goes the other way to the bye line. He can also kill a ball dead. He also doesn’t just use pace to beat a man. He can do the slow dribble using his feet. Then add in the crosses .. he can lift and swing it in one. We have been far more dangerous at corners and deep crosses since he started playing. As to strength .. he is pretty good for 18 and stronger on the ball than Sibbo. Man marking .. well since his debut is men marking (plural) which tells you everything.

Having listened to the McClaren podcast, where Joe guested, I have a lot of sympathy for him, that he'd find players and recommend them, and then see them go elsewhere. He had a plan to bring in up-and-coming Dutch players to eventually sell on, but that never happened, especially with the manager being changed every season, mid-season, or before they got to double figures.

Having listened to the McClaren podcast, where Joe guested, I have a lot of sympathy for him, that he'd find players and recommend them, and then see them go elsewhere. He had a plan to bring in up-and-coming Dutch players to eventually sell on, but that never happened, especially with the manager being changed every season, mid-season, or before they got to double figures.

Apart from the £100 million fluidity proofed to Quantuma and the EFL you mean? FWIW, Brentford owner Matthew Benham set out with a fraction of that figure, but it clearly did not preclude success. A well run club does not need the likes of Ashley and his billions to prosper.

I recall reading somewhere that MM was letting us use the stadium for free until administration was sorted. I might have just made that up in my own head though.

We cannot allow the take over of our club being stymied by the problem caused by the fact that Mel Morris still owns Pride Park.
What we need is a fans' buy out of the ground.   I suggest the following:
If enough fans are prepared to invest £1,000 each, I reckon we can easily reach an amount for the stadium which Mel will accept.  Those investors become shareholders of the ground.  A management committee is appointed with liaison with the new club board.  A regular lease is agreed and set up, giving the investors a return on their investment.   The terms of the lease give the club takes full responsibility for maintaining the stadium, including policing on match days, etc.
Can anyone see a problem with this scenario?  We need to get this moving asap.
 
 

These can go IMO Roos, Buchanan, Lawrence, Knight, sibley, Ebiowie, Bielik, Stearman with Plange & Ebesole .

A lot won't know who he is, and some may not know who Tim Ward is, but I think it deserves a mention. Sadly, Andrew passed away recently after a battle against cancer and dementia. He had already won a previous battle against cancer.
 
Tim Ward was one of Derby's greatest players. Signing for the Rams just before the outbreak of war, and missing the Cup Final because of national duty. His time in Germany saw him miss all but one game of Derby's 1946 FA Cup campaign. He played 238 times for us, and also gained two England caps as a right-half. He later left to play for Barnsley. His managerial career started oddly, having been appointed manager at Exeter. However, Barnsley had not released him and appointed him their manager eight days later. He won promotion for them from the Third Division and was there for eight seasons. He then managed Grimsby and got them out of the Third Division. For five years he was Derby's manager, signed Kevin Hector, and a lot of the team that went on to gain promotion under Clough: Durban, Webster, Boulton and Daniel. After a short stint as Carlisle manager he is to thank for the Ex-Rams charity matches, and the formation of the Derby County Former Player's Association in 1991.
 
Where does Andrew fit into this. Well he was an accomplished author, and he co-authored The Derby County Story with Anton Rippon in 1983. It was hugely successful and following soon was the Derby County Complete Record and the success of Breedon Books, whose importance to the world of football publishing cannot be ignored.
 
 
 
 

RIP Andrew a very accomplished author and son of Tim Ward who was a good Derby Manager.
Just a couple of links of interest
http://www.derbycountymemories.co.uk/timothy-victor-ward-gentleman-manager-and-kingmaker-by-david-moore
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/tim-wards-derby-county-spell-1839111.amp