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I think the frustration is in inexplicable decisions. Would anyone here have played Fornah as a number 10? NML as a wing back? Bradley instead of Cashin after Rooney’s awful injury? 
There just seems to be some really simple fixes and I am mystified as to why they aren’t made when seem so obvious. That’s before you get into in game tactics and the failure to react. Why did we give them so much time and space? They were vulnerable at the back so why not set up to attack them?
Frustrating and I can’t see an end to it. I won’t get on to what I think of Elder and Bradley.
On the plus side - Fozzy gets better and better, Nelson did OK and John-Jules is better than what we had. And we won’t have that ref again for a while - hopefully. 
 
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He also said the key was too press on the huge lump at the back to stop him moving into midfield in his post match. Something obvious that I noticed from minute 3.  Our manager didn't inexplicably.

I don’t think your statement reflects the sentiment held with all the other supporters who completed the infamous march , in what seems an age ago. What happened to the club belongs to the supporters mantra?
I have no more sense of entitlement than I do, say, with my local council. At least they follow due process.  Perhaps my 60 years + of watching this club warrants my involvement and many I am sure, think likewise.

I totally agree with you.  It’s a stakeholders statement. No entitlement,  just  an acknowledgment of the contribution made by the fans  and a view of our situation, moving forward. 

I don’t think I was being particularly aggressive. The comment about riddles (supporters mantra and describing providing assurance as management) was part in jest (hence the smiley face). Also, I don’t think I jumped to any conclusions (as illustrated by the fact that I asked what you meant by supporters mantra and what involvement you were seeking). After that, I then went on to disagree with your point of view (which you seem happy with).
 
Of course I remember the march etc (I was there that day with the thousands of others) but am not sure what has to do with “supporters mantra” and any rights we think we have to greater disclosure. Whilst it would be nice, personally I don’t expect any more clarity regarding our financial position (DC is running the club and I trust him) until the next set of accounts are published, I’m not sure there is much more to add regarding the EFL and I certainly wouldn’t expect a running commentary regarding our recruitment efforts in order to confirm or dismiss rumours on social media or in the press. I’m assuming (rightly or wrongly) that PW and the recruitment team are still working on bringing more players in and will update if/when they are completed.
I apologise if I've offended you.

What riddles and why  the aggressive way of responding? Clearly you have jumped to a conclusion before reading a very short statement.
I think this is the very reason I don’t normally comment here. Any courteous person would just ask the questions, such as you phrased well in the second part of your sentence.  
I am  stating that we have had no clarity on our financial position, no feedback to the fans, no update on progress with EFL, and as for the “mantra”, can you  not remember all of the football is for the fans and community stuff, in the  House of Commons? Or is my memory letting me down.
For all we know  all this transfer talk could be all BS. Now I don’t want to know the ins and outs of our wheeling and dealings, just it would be a nice to know  with a statement to say , that we are, for example, not going to get trampled on by footballers agents. Hence any delay.  Instead we just get “ITK’s” drip feeding nonsense all over the place. It reads exactly the same in the DET.  Again clarity.
 
I would like the club to give, as I suggested, stakeholder updates as to our progress from our period of instability, I’m not asking for much and it would show that the club has the interests of the supporters community at heart. Simple really and no riddles.

What riddles and why  the aggressive way of responding? Clearly you have jumped to a conclusion before reading a very short statement.
I think this is the very reason I don’t normally comment here. Any courteous person would just ask the questions, such as you phrased well in the second part of your sentence.  
I am  stating that we have had no clarity on our financial position, no feedback to the fans, no update on progress with EFL, and as for the “mantra”, can you  not remember all of the football is for the fans and community stuff, in the  House of Commons? Or is my memory letting me down.
For all we know  all this transfer talk could be all BS. Now I don’t want to know the ins and outs of our wheeling and dealings, just it would be a nice to know  with a statement to say , that we are, for example, not going to get trampled on by footballers agents. Hence any delay.  Instead we just get “ITK’s” drip feeding nonsense all over the place. It reads exactly the same in the DET.  Again clarity.
 
I would like the club to give, as I suggested, stakeholder updates as to our progress from our period of instability, I’m not asking for much and it would show that the club has the interests of the supporters community at heart. Simple really and no riddles.

I don’t think your statement reflects the sentiment held with all the other supporters who completed the infamous march , in what seems an age ago. What happened to the club belongs to the supporters mantra?
I have no more sense of entitlement than I do, say, with my local council. At least they follow due process.  Perhaps my 60 years + of watching this club warrants my involvement and many I am sure, think likewise.

Why? And even if good young players don't hang around we could try signing a few.

I don’t think your statement reflects the sentiment held with all the other supporters who completed the infamous march , in what seems an age ago. What happened to the club belongs to the supporters mantra?
I have no more sense of entitlement than I do, say, with my local council. At least they follow due process.  Perhaps my 60 years + of watching this club warrants my involvement and many I am sure, think likewise.

I don’t think your statement reflects the sentiment held with all the other supporters who completed the infamous march , in what seems an age ago. What happened to the club belongs to the supporters mantra?
I have no more sense of entitlement than I do, say, with my local council. At least they follow due process.  Perhaps my 60 years + of watching this club warrants my involvement and many I am sure, think likewise.

I don’t think your statement reflects the sentiment held with all the other supporters who completed the infamous march , in what seems an age ago. What happened to the club belongs to the supporters mantra?
I have no more sense of entitlement than I do, say, with my local council. At least they follow due process.  Perhaps my 60 years + of watching this club warrants my involvement and many I am sure, think likewise.

I remember something equally as loud as a drum, that as kids we all took to the BBG.
 
Rattles, remember them, I had a big war-time air-raid rattle, that was given to me. I could hardly wield it. It had black and white tape on it and didn’t half make a noise. When we got promoted from division two my family all had season tickets.  We all used to meet up nearly three hours before the match. I used to take my transistor to listen to In concert, before the match. In Concert was at 1.00. Led Zep at the BBG, lol.

I remember something equally as loud as a drum, that as kids we all took to the BBG.
 
Rattles, remember them, I had a big war-time air-raid rattle, that was given to me. I could hardly wield it. It had black and white tape on it and didn’t half make a noise. When we got promoted from division two my family all had season tickets.  We all used to meet up nearly three hours before the match. I used to take my transistor to listen to In concert, before the match. In Concert was at 1.00. Led Zep at the BBG, lol.

Oxford fan coming in peace.
This thread has been quite some read and you are rightly concerned that you’ve lost to lowly Oxford. But, let me try and calm your concerns and correct some comments.
Yes, we finished 2 points clear of relegation and as one of your contributors said we’d only won 3 games in 7 months. But to put that into perspective, we had Karl Robinson as our “manager” last season until he was sacked. After 5 seasons we eventually got rid of  him. He had some good games, we got to the playoff final and lost to Wycombe, perhaps the least deserving team to get promoted, their brand of footy was truly awful. The following season we lost in the playoff semifinal to Blackpool, we got thumped at home, game over. We then followed that with 8th.
He got the sack after picking up 1 point in 24, the board should’ve acted sooner because he had his mind on other things. His marriage had collapsed, but if you shag the women’s team captain what do you expect. His signings, were a disaster. He gave contract extensions to injured players. Signed players with known mental health issues, signed more crocks and brought in square pegs for round holes. He also signed big Sam’s grandson, not on merit.  His post match comments were those of a scouce smack-head who’d just found a bottle of LSD.  We’d watched United get annihilated and he’d be talking about Brazil, the rainforest and samba bands.
In came Liam Manning and Chris Hogg… who?  Manning got MK into the L1 playoffs which they lost and got the push from MK after a bad run.
He came in and picked up 11 points to keep us up, instilling some grit and professionalism.
During the close season, he’s brought in 8 new players, some of whom we have been shocked we’d signed. Ruben Rodrigues from Notts Country, Mark Harris from Cardiff, on loan Stan Mills from Everton and James Beadle from Brighton. 
We had PSF against Swansea 2-2 then beat QPR 5-0.
First game of the season was a 2-0 away defeat to Cambridge and our forum was similar to this thread. However a 1-0 win against Carlisle and last night has completely changed the outlook. As many people say, give it 10 games, then start judging. New players in, old ones out, injured players back etc.
I can understand your pain, but I think we’ll be top 10 this year, we are playing free flowing footy. You are hamstrung by past crimes and until you can spend you’ll be stuck in this league, but once sanctions are lifted, 25,000 customers is going to give you plenty of buying power. 
Good luck for the season, especially against, Wigan, Reading and Bolton.

And that has been the issue for quite a while. If he doesn’t genuinely see where the problems are he cannot course correct. A lot of us see it and he and his team appears not. 

I noted that a long time back and I feel the management team rode their luck in a few instances last year. They are too slow to counteract opposition strategy and at times do not even recognise it is occurring. The lack of movement now  and basic triangulations certainly worry me as it is a basic part of modern football and many times this evening, we could not overlap as the strategy and structure had not even planned for it.
Our ex goalkeeping coach nailed it on RDerby, when he said after 26 minutes it needed changing. I’m behind the technical area on the West Stand  and have been for over ten years and folks were shouting to the management about movement, shape, desire, press and playing to feet. What we got was deafears  - I personally feel that they are like deer in headlights, it’s all too much and they are now blinded by the challenge. Hopefully not too pig-headed.
I have genuinely wanted this management group to be successful  but the bravado is too much, we need tactics not jokes, we need polish not placating, and we need serious tactical, structured, strategic football and not Sunday morning hoofball . 
 
PW and his team can make this work but ego and big boy humour has to be diluted and professionalism has go to come to the fore, this is not the division that it was a few years ago but one that has been reshaped by too many would be prem dropouts. Time for PW and his team to grow some bits below as they’re out their comfort zone now.

I just hope they can try to listen, and although we aren’t pros some of us have been watching, what we can seriously remember, of DCFC and football for over 60 years now, so actually we have seen this a bit too frequently.
I seriously wish good luck to PW and colleagues but do hope they start to become humble and learn, as now is the time.
 

And that has been the issue for quite a while. If he doesn’t genuinely see where the problems are he cannot course correct. A lot of us see it and he and his team appears not. 

I noted that a long time back and I feel the management team rode their luck in a few instances last year. They are too slow to counteract opposition strategy and at times do not even recognise it is occurring. The lack of movement now  and basic triangulations certainly worry me as it is a basic part of modern football and many times this evening, we could not overlap as the strategy and structure had not even planned for it.
Our ex goalkeeping coach nailed it on RDerby, when he said after 26 minutes it needed changing. I’m behind the technical area on the West Stand  and have been for over ten years and folks were shouting to the management about movement, shape, desire, press and playing to feet. What we got was deafears  - I personally feel that they are like deer in headlights, it’s all too much and they are now blinded by the challenge. Hopefully not too pig-headed.
I have genuinely wanted this management group to be successful  but the bravado is too much, we need tactics not jokes, we need polish not placating, and we need serious tactical, structured, strategic football and not Sunday morning hoofball . 
 
PW and his team can make this work but ego and big boy humour has to be diluted and professionalism has go to come to the fore, this is not the division that it was a few years ago but one that has been reshaped by too many would be prem dropouts. Time for PW and his team to grow some bits below as they’re out their comfort zone now.

I just hope they can try to listen, and although we aren’t pros some of us have been watching, what we can seriously remember, of DCFC and football for over 60 years now, so actually we have seen this a bit too frequently.
I seriously wish good luck to PW and colleagues but do hope they start to become humble and learn, as now is the time.
 

And that has been the issue for quite a while. If he doesn’t genuinely see where the problems are he cannot course correct. A lot of us see it and he and his team appears not. 

I noted that a long time back and I feel the management team rode their luck in a few instances last year. They are too slow to counteract opposition strategy and at times do not even recognise it is occurring. The lack of movement now  and basic triangulations certainly worry me as it is a basic part of modern football and many times this evening, we could not overlap as the strategy and structure had not even planned for it.
Our ex goalkeeping coach nailed it on RDerby, when he said after 26 minutes it needed changing. I’m behind the technical area on the West Stand  and have been for over ten years and folks were shouting to the management about movement, shape, desire, press and playing to feet. What we got was deafears  - I personally feel that they are like deer in headlights, it’s all too much and they are now blinded by the challenge. Hopefully not too pig-headed.
I have genuinely wanted this management group to be successful  but the bravado is too much, we need tactics not jokes, we need polish not placating, and we need serious tactical, structured, strategic football and not Sunday morning hoofball . 
 
PW and his team can make this work but ego and big boy humour has to be diluted and professionalism has go to come to the fore, this is not the division that it was a few years ago but one that has been reshaped by too many would be prem dropouts. Time for PW and his team to grow some bits below as they’re out their comfort zone now.

I just hope they can try to listen, and although we aren’t pros some of us have been watching, what we can seriously remember, of DCFC and football for over 60 years now, so actually we have seen this a bit too frequently.
I seriously wish good luck to PW and colleagues but do hope they start to become humble and learn, as now is the time.
 

And that has been the issue for quite a while. If he doesn’t genuinely see where the problems are he cannot course correct. A lot of us see it and he and his team appears not. 

I noted that a long time back and I feel the management team rode their luck in a few instances last year. They are too slow to counteract opposition strategy and at times do not even recognise it is occurring. The lack of movement now  and basic triangulations certainly worry me as it is a basic part of modern football and many times this evening, we could not overlap as the strategy and structure had not even planned for it.
Our ex goalkeeping coach nailed it on RDerby, when he said after 26 minutes it needed changing. I’m behind the technical area on the West Stand  and have been for over ten years and folks were shouting to the management about movement, shape, desire, press and playing to feet. What we got was deafears  - I personally feel that they are like deer in headlights, it’s all too much and they are now blinded by the challenge. Hopefully not too pig-headed.
I have genuinely wanted this management group to be successful  but the bravado is too much, we need tactics not jokes, we need polish not placating, and we need serious tactical, structured, strategic football and not Sunday morning hoofball . 
 
PW and his team can make this work but ego and big boy humour has to be diluted and professionalism has go to come to the fore, this is not the division that it was a few years ago but one that has been reshaped by too many would be prem dropouts. Time for PW and his team to grow some bits below as they’re out their comfort zone now.

I just hope they can try to listen, and although we aren’t pros some of us have been watching, what we can seriously remember, of DCFC and football for over 60 years now, so actually we have seen this a bit too frequently.
I seriously wish good luck to PW and colleagues but do hope they start to become humble and learn, as now is the time.
 

And that has been the issue for quite a while. If he doesn’t genuinely see where the problems are he cannot course correct. A lot of us see it and he and his team appears not. 

I noted that a long time back and I feel the management team rode their luck in a few instances last year. They are too slow to counteract opposition strategy and at times do not even recognise it is occurring. The lack of movement now  and basic triangulations certainly worry me as it is a basic part of modern football and many times this evening, we could not overlap as the strategy and structure had not even planned for it.
Our ex goalkeeping coach nailed it on RDerby, when he said after 26 minutes it needed changing. I’m behind the technical area on the West Stand  and have been for over ten years and folks were shouting to the management about movement, shape, desire, press and playing to feet. What we got was deafears  - I personally feel that they are like deer in headlights, it’s all too much and they are now blinded by the challenge. Hopefully not too pig-headed.
I have genuinely wanted this management group to be successful  but the bravado is too much, we need tactics not jokes, we need polish not placating, and we need serious tactical, structured, strategic football and not Sunday morning hoofball . 
 
PW and his team can make this work but ego and big boy humour has to be diluted and professionalism has go to come to the fore, this is not the division that it was a few years ago but one that has been reshaped by too many would be prem dropouts. Time for PW and his team to grow some bits below as they’re out their comfort zone now.

I just hope they can try to listen, and although we aren’t pros some of us have been watching, what we can seriously remember, of DCFC and football for over 60 years now, so actually we have seen this a bit too frequently.
I seriously wish good luck to PW and colleagues but do hope they start to become humble and learn, as now is the time.
 

And that has been the issue for quite a while. If he doesn’t genuinely see where the problems are he cannot course correct. A lot of us see it and he and his team appears not. 

I noted that a long time back and I feel the management team rode their luck in a few instances last year. They are too slow to counteract opposition strategy and at times do not even recognise it is occurring. The lack of movement now  and basic triangulations certainly worry me as it is a basic part of modern football and many times this evening, we could not overlap as the strategy and structure had not even planned for it.
Our ex goalkeeping coach nailed it on RDerby, when he said after 26 minutes it needed changing. I’m behind the technical area on the West Stand  and have been for over ten years and folks were shouting to the management about movement, shape, desire, press and playing to feet. What we got was deafears  - I personally feel that they are like deer in headlights, it’s all too much and they are now blinded by the challenge. Hopefully not too pig-headed.
I have genuinely wanted this management group to be successful  but the bravado is too much, we need tactics not jokes, we need polish not placating, and we need serious tactical, structured, strategic football and not Sunday morning hoofball . 
 
PW and his team can make this work but ego and big boy humour has to be diluted and professionalism has go to come to the fore, this is not the division that it was a few years ago but one that has been reshaped by too many would be prem dropouts. Time for PW and his team to grow some bits below as they’re out their comfort zone now.

I just hope they can try to listen, and although we aren’t pros some of us have been watching, what we can seriously remember, of DCFC and football for over 60 years now, so actually we have seen this a bit too frequently.
I seriously wish good luck to PW and colleagues but do hope they start to become humble and learn, as now is the time.
 

And that has been the issue for quite a while. If he doesn’t genuinely see where the problems are he cannot course correct. A lot of us see it and he and his team appears not. 

I noted that a long time back and I feel the management team rode their luck in a few instances last year. They are too slow to counteract opposition strategy and at times do not even recognise it is occurring. The lack of movement now  and basic triangulations certainly worry me as it is a basic part of modern football and many times this evening, we could not overlap as the strategy and structure had not even planned for it.
Our ex goalkeeping coach nailed it on RDerby, when he said after 26 minutes it needed changing. I’m behind the technical area on the West Stand  and have been for over ten years and folks were shouting to the management about movement, shape, desire, press and playing to feet. What we got was deafears  - I personally feel that they are like deer in headlights, it’s all too much and they are now blinded by the challenge. Hopefully not too pig-headed.
I have genuinely wanted this management group to be successful  but the bravado is too much, we need tactics not jokes, we need polish not placating, and we need serious tactical, structured, strategic football and not Sunday morning hoofball . 
 
PW and his team can make this work but ego and big boy humour has to be diluted and professionalism has go to come to the fore, this is not the division that it was a few years ago but one that has been reshaped by too many would be prem dropouts. Time for PW and his team to grow some bits below as they’re out their comfort zone now.

I just hope they can try to listen, and although we aren’t pros some of us have been watching, what we can seriously remember, of DCFC and football for over 60 years now, so actually we have seen this a bit too frequently.
I seriously wish good luck to PW and colleagues but do hope they start to become humble and learn, as now is the time.
 

That was poor tonight, no hiding from that, 3 at the back does not seem to work, need to get our home form back asap, we looked like we had no tactics apart from putting it into the box, and hoping something would fall for us, don't like to over react, but we need to see something happening on the pitch, we need to see players talking to each other, we  need to see, players moving into space, playing 1, 2s around the box we need to mix it up, go through the middle at times, it just seems very static at the moment, hope something clicks soon, as sacking a manager every year is not something we want to keep doing, i thought getting rid of Liam so quickly last season was a strange idea as it was a team he put together, we need patience from everyone, but we also need to get a grip on the trainung ground, and start to play some football, and have a few different ways of setting up, it's time that our coaching staff get to earn there money, and get us performing as a top of the table team, as that is where we need to be come the end of the season.  Rant over, just feeling so down at the moment. 
 

I have not commented on  this forum in years as I have not really had the need but recently I have started to have serious concerns about certain aspects of Warne’s management that he needs to work on , let alone the players.
Firstly it has been quite obvious that Curtis’ legs have gone. Much as I love the guy it was sad to see him look totally lost,  I know that PW said they had a bad day at the training office but it must be obvious that CD is struggling. it must be so easy to see in training, so why play him?
Tactically it could have been altered within the first 15 by bringing Roberts on. Fossie also looks slow on the left and it then exposed Cashin, who then started to wobble as he was not sure who was around him. A good manager doesn’t soldier on, he affects changes. Too much dwelling and no incisiveness. If I and those all around me can see the issue, then why can’t the paid professionals?
Because he didn’t make immediate changes the result was destabilising team morale by changing two players two minutes before half time, that were symptoms of the issue but not the cause.
My major concern is that we underestimate the opposition, as most of the lesser teams are physically aggressive, crunch up the mid-field and do a press on the back four, although the press was not massively evident yesterday. We are predictable and easy to play, opponents stop our game and then we fall into midfield head tennis and channel balls invariably going nowhere. We need to learn how to counter this if we are to progress but i do not see much evidence of this on the field. PW must work on this, along with the development of further strategic planning in the event that a team does A, then changes to plan B and so on; which has been evident from the opposition in many recent games. 

One thing that is clearly evident from this league, is that there is a good set of opposition coaches that use quite a lot of guile and gamesmanship to get results. Just running faster is not the answer, we need to be developing other dimensions to our play and taking note of what to expect.
 
 

I have not commented on  this forum in years as I have not really had the need but recently I have started to have serious concerns about certain aspects of Warne’s management that he needs to work on , let alone the players.
Firstly it has been quite obvious that Curtis’ legs have gone. Much as I love the guy it was sad to see him look totally lost,  I know that PW said they had a bad day at the training office but it must be obvious that CD is struggling. it must be so easy to see in training, so why play him?
Tactically it could have been altered within the first 15 by bringing Roberts on. Fossie also looks slow on the left and it then exposed Cashin, who then started to wobble as he was not sure who was around him. A good manager doesn’t soldier on, he affects changes. Too much dwelling and no incisiveness. If I and those all around me can see the issue, then why can’t the paid professionals?
Because he didn’t make immediate changes the result was destabilising team morale by changing two players two minutes before half time, that were symptoms of the issue but not the cause.
My major concern is that we underestimate the opposition, as most of the lesser teams are physically aggressive, crunch up the mid-field and do a press on the back four, although the press was not massively evident yesterday. We are predictable and easy to play, opponents stop our game and then we fall into midfield head tennis and channel balls invariably going nowhere. We need to learn how to counter this if we are to progress but i do not see much evidence of this on the field. PW must work on this, along with the development of further strategic planning in the event that a team does A, then changes to plan B and so on; which has been evident from the opposition in many recent games. 

One thing that is clearly evident from this league, is that there is a good set of opposition coaches that use quite a lot of guile and gamesmanship to get results. Just running faster is not the answer, we need to be developing other dimensions to our play and taking note of what to expect.