The_Sheriff

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How many games have you seen where the team playing the better football have lost?
We all want to see great entertaining football,  but at the end of the day, it's all about getting the ball in the net and stopping the other team from doing the same.
We Scored the first goal and should have had a penalty before that even though Bolton were playing better than us, and without the refs dodgy decisions we could well have gone on to get 3 points.

How can you give an excuse for the red? He clearly didnt know wildsmith handled it which is why he played on before pulling it back and then asked the linesman who didnt even flag for it.
They guessed!! And obviously guessed wrong.

The problem is that football is a low scoring game of fine margins. We would need to win each game by 2 or 3 clear goals to allow for decisions to potentially go against us and to be able to overcome this.

The ref did not see the ball hit Wildsmiths hand/arm but he gave a penalty. Its not one of those things, its very poor officiating. You can't assume its handball, you've either seen handball or you haven't.
 

Maybe I'm missing something, but I have never noticed a Warne team playing hoofball, other than in desperation in the final five minutes. IMO, Warne's aim is to use movement and one/two touch passing to get the ball forward as quickly as possible. It's direct, but not exactly 1980s Wimbledon and Watford.

How can you be a good passing side if there is no end product? Isn’t one meant to lead to the other? If it is not effective, is it actually good?
In the same way, is our running and pressing under Warne effective? Not always. So I wouldn’t describe us as a good pressing team, particularly. A team that tries it, for sure.
As I remember, much of our ‘good passing’ under Rosenior was in areas where the opposition were happy for us to have the ball and in positions where they knew we couldn’t hurt them.
Had we scored more goals and turned more draws and losses into wins, the feeling would be different. I don’t remember many times where we actually cut teams open with our passing and it led to goals being scored. We actually did more of this under Warne last season.
We created chances under Rosenior, yes, but we also create chances under Warne, just the build up is different and frustrating in its own way.

What a post!
I have no stats to back it up but under warne we always look like scoring i would imagine our xg proves this in comparison to rosenior or rooney or cocu? 
I know i am in the minority but i am happy to be more direct instead of passing sideways and backwards. 
Too many fans dont know the difference between possession and domination/control of a game

What a post!
I have no stats to back it up but under warne we always look like scoring i would imagine our xg proves this in comparison to rosenior or rooney or cocu? 
I know i am in the minority but i am happy to be more direct instead of passing sideways and backwards. 
Too many fans dont know the difference between possession and domination/control of a game

What a post!
I have no stats to back it up but under warne we always look like scoring i would imagine our xg proves this in comparison to rosenior or rooney or cocu? 
I know i am in the minority but i am happy to be more direct instead of passing sideways and backwards. 
Too many fans dont know the difference between possession and domination/control of a game

Who are these players that are going to play fast, vibrant, passing attacking football?
Méndez Laing, who can’t last 60 minutes and is equal measures frustrating and exciting?
Smith and Hourihane, who can only prosper on the ball when they are given the freedom of the continent?
Sibley and Barkhuizen, who can’t stay fit or find enough consistency to get a place in the team?
Cashin, who only has a sweeping long ball in his locker?
Let’s be honest, we have a squad which is not above this level and isn’t particularly blessed with technically strong players who can play good attacking football against all comers. This is why our play orbited around McGoldrick for 70% of the season previously.
The only one who is really fit for a passing team is Bird, and currently he is injured and come January, he might be on the move.
If you want to see a good passing team, @CornwallRam is right. It will need time, patience and investment.

Last year was a nightmare. The almost unthinkable nearly happened - we were so close to losing our beloved football club, founder members of the football league, champions under Clough and Mackay, FA cup winners after the war and European Cup semi-finalists.
David Clowes, a genuine fan with the means to do so, rescued the club at the last minute. He himself says it "was close".
Thanks to him, we have a club, our club.
We must learn the lessons of the past. We must not get into the same precarious mess ever again.
But....we can move on. We must move on. We should now look forward. We do not have to merely be content that the club is still in existence.
It's ok to demand more from the manager, the teams on the pitch (not just the first team but especially them).
We should demand exciting, entertaining football that gets results. It does not mean that we won't forever be grateful to David Clowes for saving the club.
It means we want Derby County to once again be a beacon for good football. Attacking football. Positive football. Entertaining football.
That means passing football, intricate moves, running with the ball, creating chances. It doesn't mean sitting back and hoping to score from a corner or a free kick.
I like Paul Warne, the man. But I don't like his tactics. I don't like his desire to play 3-5-2 with the players he has available, I don't like his use of players out of position or not giving the academy players a chance. I don't like the emphasis on set pieces rather than attacking play.
Yes, at least we still have a club.
But we are Derby County. The football should be, must be, ought to be better 🐏

If it did that's NOT a handball, same as when it bounces up off a player's thigh onto the arm. 
I didn't see any unsporting behaviour from Joe in this game. Anything like that should be completely irrelevant anyway. 
Although this was the bloke who referreed us at Plymouth, so who knows what goes on in his mind?

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

Second best all first half, grew into it nearer the end and got a penalty after the ball was in the net, and after another stonewall penalty. Then they get a penalty, looked on the edge of the box but could’ve been inside. Second half starts, Bradley (who was playing really well) drops (another) clanger leading to Wildsmith to get desperate and get sent off (rightly or wrongly) but the referee took a good 40 seconds to make a decision and the linesman didn’t flag it. Then we’re away to Bolton who will be top 2 with 10 men. We defended really well, Nelson in particular but then they get a fluke own goal that loops in. We get pegged back and have a few chances near the end. Wasn’t a great watch but no where near worth the meltdown in my opinion 

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!

So frustrating reading this thread. Too many waiting to say warne out at the first chance of things going against us.
We just lost to the best team in the league 2-1 with 10 men and a few pen shouts. 
3 pts from pboro and bolton away is not a bad return.
Get behind the team plenty of games left!