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    Vienna got a reaction from Ramifications in Steve Gibson trying to liquidate Derby   
    “27th Chairman of Middlesbrough F.C. Stephen Gibson OBE (born 9 January 1958) is a British entrepreneur and the chairman and owner of Middlesbrough Football Club. In May 2020, he was listed 481st on the Sunday Times Rich List, with a net worth of £270 million.”
     
    Mr Gibson, you, directly as a consequence of your actions will be responsible for loss of life, not only the loss of livelihood (although that is bad enough) but the loss of LIFE!! Not one DCFC supporter deserves this and neither do the families (wives, husbands, kids...) who will be left behind - is this what you intended when you started your utterly ridiculous campaign for vengeance (for what I still cannot fathom out?) - because it’s what you’ll have on your conscience (if you have one) for the rest of your very comfortable existence.
     
    This is not an over dramatic, knee jerk reaction from a star-struck fan (I’m a mid 50’s, highly qualified professional) and neither is it a plea to allow DCFC to weasel out of the mess that its previous controllers (Morris and Pearce) have driven it to, but rather it’s reality - it’s what will happen, once, twice, 10 times or more, I don’t know but it WILL happen.
     
    If you feel you have a genuine claim (very doubtful in my view) pursue it against the aforementioned through the courts but don’t hold the innocent, powerless and some vulnerable to mental health ransom.
    Like all reasonable football fans I beseech you to do the right thing.
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    Vienna got a reaction from Ewe Ram in Playing with People's lives   
    I know that we shouldn't care so much, but genuinely believe that the EFL, Steve Gibson et al. may well be playing with people's lives now. Unlike many I don't blame either for the mess than DCFC are in - that's down solely to Mel Morris BUT the aforementioned will I fear, by their actions cause severe problems to many, even to the point of the worst conceivable outcome.
    Yes its only football but to many thousands its their life.
    To those that harbour such feelings seek help and support from those you trust.
    To those of you who have it within your gift to prevent real human suffering, (if any of you are reading this, which you won't be!!) think about the consequences of your greed and act accordingly!!
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from IslandExile in Playing with People's lives   
    I know that we shouldn't care so much, but genuinely believe that the EFL, Steve Gibson et al. may well be playing with people's lives now. Unlike many I don't blame either for the mess than DCFC are in - that's down solely to Mel Morris BUT the aforementioned will I fear, by their actions cause severe problems to many, even to the point of the worst conceivable outcome.
    Yes its only football but to many thousands its their life.
    To those that harbour such feelings seek help and support from those you trust.
    To those of you who have it within your gift to prevent real human suffering, (if any of you are reading this, which you won't be!!) think about the consequences of your greed and act accordingly!!
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from ariotofmyown in Playing with People's lives   
    I know that we shouldn't care so much, but genuinely believe that the EFL, Steve Gibson et al. may well be playing with people's lives now. Unlike many I don't blame either for the mess than DCFC are in - that's down solely to Mel Morris BUT the aforementioned will I fear, by their actions cause severe problems to many, even to the point of the worst conceivable outcome.
    Yes its only football but to many thousands its their life.
    To those that harbour such feelings seek help and support from those you trust.
    To those of you who have it within your gift to prevent real human suffering, (if any of you are reading this, which you won't be!!) think about the consequences of your greed and act accordingly!!
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from Gisby in Playing with People's lives   
    I know that we shouldn't care so much, but genuinely believe that the EFL, Steve Gibson et al. may well be playing with people's lives now. Unlike many I don't blame either for the mess than DCFC are in - that's down solely to Mel Morris BUT the aforementioned will I fear, by their actions cause severe problems to many, even to the point of the worst conceivable outcome.
    Yes its only football but to many thousands its their life.
    To those that harbour such feelings seek help and support from those you trust.
    To those of you who have it within your gift to prevent real human suffering, (if any of you are reading this, which you won't be!!) think about the consequences of your greed and act accordingly!!
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from SaffyRam in Playing with People's lives   
    I know that we shouldn't care so much, but genuinely believe that the EFL, Steve Gibson et al. may well be playing with people's lives now. Unlike many I don't blame either for the mess than DCFC are in - that's down solely to Mel Morris BUT the aforementioned will I fear, by their actions cause severe problems to many, even to the point of the worst conceivable outcome.
    Yes its only football but to many thousands its their life.
    To those that harbour such feelings seek help and support from those you trust.
    To those of you who have it within your gift to prevent real human suffering, (if any of you are reading this, which you won't be!!) think about the consequences of your greed and act accordingly!!
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from RadioactiveWaste in Playing with People's lives   
    I know that we shouldn't care so much, but genuinely believe that the EFL, Steve Gibson et al. may well be playing with people's lives now. Unlike many I don't blame either for the mess than DCFC are in - that's down solely to Mel Morris BUT the aforementioned will I fear, by their actions cause severe problems to many, even to the point of the worst conceivable outcome.
    Yes its only football but to many thousands its their life.
    To those that harbour such feelings seek help and support from those you trust.
    To those of you who have it within your gift to prevent real human suffering, (if any of you are reading this, which you won't be!!) think about the consequences of your greed and act accordingly!!
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from Ken Tram in Steve Bloomer   
    Interesting article 
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2022/01/03/the-worlds-first-football-superstar-born-in-the-black-country/?fbclid=IwAR2UegR7Ob57bM_JO_iWD_ko3aL4ckBQOzT7dt8_UWGH8P4qy2nUYXk7rX8
     
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from Indyram in Steve Bloomer   
    Interesting article 
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2022/01/03/the-worlds-first-football-superstar-born-in-the-black-country/?fbclid=IwAR2UegR7Ob57bM_JO_iWD_ko3aL4ckBQOzT7dt8_UWGH8P4qy2nUYXk7rX8
     
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from LeedsCityRam in Steve Bloomer   
    Interesting article 
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2022/01/03/the-worlds-first-football-superstar-born-in-the-black-country/?fbclid=IwAR2UegR7Ob57bM_JO_iWD_ko3aL4ckBQOzT7dt8_UWGH8P4qy2nUYXk7rX8
     
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from uttoxram75 in Steve Bloomer   
    Interesting article 
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2022/01/03/the-worlds-first-football-superstar-born-in-the-black-country/?fbclid=IwAR2UegR7Ob57bM_JO_iWD_ko3aL4ckBQOzT7dt8_UWGH8P4qy2nUYXk7rX8
     
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from loweman2 in Steve Bloomer   
    Interesting article 
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2022/01/03/the-worlds-first-football-superstar-born-in-the-black-country/?fbclid=IwAR2UegR7Ob57bM_JO_iWD_ko3aL4ckBQOzT7dt8_UWGH8P4qy2nUYXk7rX8
     
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from Rev in Steve Bloomer   
    Interesting article 
    https://www.expressandstar.com/news/Features/2022/01/03/the-worlds-first-football-superstar-born-in-the-black-country/?fbclid=IwAR2UegR7Ob57bM_JO_iWD_ko3aL4ckBQOzT7dt8_UWGH8P4qy2nUYXk7rX8
     
     
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    Vienna got a reaction from Ram1988 in Where in the world?   
    Thanks for all the answers - nothing we didn't know but....
    All over England
    Wales
    Scotland
    Iceland
    Finland
    Turkey
    Mexico
    USA
    Canada
    Japan
    Australia
     
    and many others I'm sure. Which potential buyers wouldn't see the opportunity?
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    Vienna reacted to Quagga in Where in the world?   
    Mexico City
    Cruz Azul
    Born in Derby
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    Vienna reacted to Steve How Hard? in Where in the world?   
    Lancashire 
    Blackburn
    Brain washed at birth by my uncle. Glad he did. Could never imagine supporting anyone else although it made my younger years difficult. Was endlessly derided for not supporting my home town team. 
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    Vienna got a reaction from jono in The future of Pride Park and Moor Farm?   
    A charge means that the loan made by MSD was secured against the assets against which the charge was given - without it highly unlikely that the loan would have been given (too risky for lender) - the charge effectively secures the lenders position in the event of default- same way that a bank takes a charge over a property when it provides a mortgage. So if MSD aren’t repaid they take control of PP / Moor Farm (if those are the assets over which the charge is given) and obviously can choose to do with them what is in their best interest (sell, keep and lease etc)
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    Vienna got a reaction from Carnero in The future of Pride Park and Moor Farm?   
    A charge means that the loan made by MSD was secured against the assets against which the charge was given - without it highly unlikely that the loan would have been given (too risky for lender) - the charge effectively secures the lenders position in the event of default- same way that a bank takes a charge over a property when it provides a mortgage. So if MSD aren’t repaid they take control of PP / Moor Farm (if those are the assets over which the charge is given) and obviously can choose to do with them what is in their best interest (sell, keep and lease etc)
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    Vienna got a reaction from RoyMac5 in The future of Pride Park and Moor Farm?   
    A charge means that the loan made by MSD was secured against the assets against which the charge was given - without it highly unlikely that the loan would have been given (too risky for lender) - the charge effectively secures the lenders position in the event of default- same way that a bank takes a charge over a property when it provides a mortgage. So if MSD aren’t repaid they take control of PP / Moor Farm (if those are the assets over which the charge is given) and obviously can choose to do with them what is in their best interest (sell, keep and lease etc)
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    Vienna got a reaction from Carl Sagan in The future of Pride Park and Moor Farm?   
    A charge means that the loan made by MSD was secured against the assets against which the charge was given - without it highly unlikely that the loan would have been given (too risky for lender) - the charge effectively secures the lenders position in the event of default- same way that a bank takes a charge over a property when it provides a mortgage. So if MSD aren’t repaid they take control of PP / Moor Farm (if those are the assets over which the charge is given) and obviously can choose to do with them what is in their best interest (sell, keep and lease etc)
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    Vienna got a reaction from Ram-Alf in The future of Pride Park and Moor Farm?   
    A charge means that the loan made by MSD was secured against the assets against which the charge was given - without it highly unlikely that the loan would have been given (too risky for lender) - the charge effectively secures the lenders position in the event of default- same way that a bank takes a charge over a property when it provides a mortgage. So if MSD aren’t repaid they take control of PP / Moor Farm (if those are the assets over which the charge is given) and obviously can choose to do with them what is in their best interest (sell, keep and lease etc)
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