SamUltraRam

https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/teams/derby-county/12640002/curtis-davies-rooney-may-have-left-to-protect-reputation
 

On a side note, IF we have an agreed EFL business plan in place relating to spending and suddenly a big earner is removed from that plan, I wonder if we will be allowed to replace like for like.
Similarly, If we have an agreed transfer budget plan & then, for example, we sold Jason Knight for £5m, would be be allowed to spend all that money on top of the plan ?

Assuming he wants it, surely it’s Rosenior?
He can start today. Vital as we need to crack the fork on.
Still a bigger club than any other options he is likely to get as manager (as opposed to assistant.
If we let things drift for a few weeks while we interview and short list then we will be in even bigger trouble for the new season.
Just focus on getting an experienced assistant.

properly peed off with the timing of this.  Basically his agent isn't taking the helm via Kirchner and of those who stuck up their hand saying they wanted to stay - two are trying to weedle their way out of contract extensions, ones heading off to Palace, the goalie who loved playing for Derby in his own words is now at Cardiff, the young international who made a 19 year old captain has basically invited bids by media, his current captain is off playing golf with the bloke who talked a lot of s*** for 3 months and his assistant manager wants out. Even Davies has made it clear he would consider a year in the championship if offered 
That combination is probably why he's gone.  s*** timing though.  Almost ' I wish it was Preston going up today' in it's majesty.

Is the Clowes headquarters at Ednaston the home once owned by Lionel Pickering ?
That would be a nice full circle moment I suppose
25th anniversary of the completion of Pride Park Stadium by Lionel next month

Had a brilliant day on holiday yesterday at Disney wearing our Derby tops. 13 of us in our family and our friends family combined. 

We were stopped 3 times by random visitors (all not English) to the park to talk about Derby County, Wayne Rooney and hoping we survive and giving us good luck for the future. 
 
Put a massive smile on our faces knowing that if, if, we survive this massive club will rise again. 
 
Amazing news to be added today as we wake up. 
 
COME ON YOU RAMSSSSS!!! 

Pleased for you as a fanbase - you've had to suffer enough!
Also on a personal (selfish) note as it means the city I live in continues to have an EFL football club, and a big one at that. I've enjoyed some fantastic days at Pride Park since I've lived here.
Not so pleased that it sounds like you might be in a position to sign on players much quicker than it was looking like!
I suppose if you beat us on opening day, the banter from the in-laws and friends will be over nice and early!

I could cry, I am so happy to have some utterly positive news.......youuuuuuuu Rammmmmmsssss

Quick bit of research yields the following:
The combined cash at bank value for all businesses where DAVID CLOWES holds a current appointment equals £30m, a combined total current assets value of £536m with a total current liabilities of £137m and a total current net worth of £346m. My guess would be that while David is the front man, the new owners will effectively be the Clowes family as a whole.
For those already worrying that he / they have insufficient net worth to run a club like Derby, consider the relative wealth of Brentford owner Matthew Benham, a tiny fraction of the Clowes fortune. Consider too that Benham had to borrow £700k to fund the majority shareholding he took when he bought Brentford in 2012. Like Clowes, Benham too, is a lifelong fan of the club he has now established in the Premiership. Not all 'fan-owners' then are of Morris' ilk, so let's be balanced in our thinking. Some may say Benham is an outlier and an anomaly but the facts do not bear out this opinion. My view is rather that he simply adopted a model by which even clubs with modest fan bases can operate without losses AND enjoy success. For interest's sake, some net worth figures for a few Premiership club owners, correct as of 10/2021:
Brentford – Matthew Benham (£3m)
Norwich - Delia Smith and Michael Wynn-Jones (£23m)
Burnley – Mike Garlick (£62m)
Watford – Gino Pozzo (£93m)
Leeds – Andrea Radrizzani (£344m)
If Clowes is successful in his bid, then let's then give the man a chance to show that he intends to run the club in the way it could and should be run. There is absolutely no reason that DCFC can not break even within a few years and then turn a profit from then on. Look at the 30K +++ crowds that turned up towards the end of a post-Covid season with the team nigh on certain to be relegated. There are few clubs in the entire league that would top those numbers and the willingness of the fans to get behind the club, aligned to a measured and analytical approach to recruitment, can prove to be the cornerstones upon which a resurgent Derby County can be built. Our support was the absolute envy of the League last season, despite 3 years of ever gathering gloom and ill conceived hostility from outsiders who chose to hate before they thought. Let's not forget that. Equally, let's be respectful to and supportive of the players who ran through walls for us, even those who now choose move to pastures new. We should be, and I believe most are, grateful for what was a herculean effort from a team where a good few were earning a fraction of the wages they could command elsewhere and all played week in, week out under immense levels of pressure and uncertainty. They gave us all they had and IMO, they now owe us nothing.
Let's also look out for each other; I've tried to remain calm and upbeat throughout the last couple of years as have most, but the strain of the last few months has understandably stretched nerves to breaking point. A lot of us have expressed anger and lashed out and I'm one of them, but the truth is that lashing out at those around the process, or worse still, at other fans, serves literally no purpose. I should know better.
As we now look to the future then, akin to most fans, I suspect, I remain concerned that this may prove yet another false dawn, but this does have a rather different feel about it. We will know by this time next week whether the deal has legs, at which point we can hopefully once again begin to dream about a more positive future for the club, the fans and the wider community. In essence, the healing process can begin. Of course I am hugely biased in my view, but it's something I strongly believe; there is something quite unique and special about this club of ours, even in the darkest of times. They say that it's always darkest before the dawn and I'm sure I can see some narrow slithers of light ahead and this for the first time in several years. Perhaps a bright and beautiful new dawn will follow, perhaps something less than that, but let's try to be present, upbeat and supportive and not simply look to others. We have a huge role to play if we choose to accept it and these next few years could be some of the best in long while if we temper our expectations and rediscover the unity and passion we showed when times were hardest.

If clowes is basically putting his money up to save the club and give others a chance, say a year, to get their house in order to buy him out, then that will do for me.
If he is doing it for a long term rebuild, and multi year ownership, then that will do for me.
Always been about the club surviving. It was clear about 2 or 3 months into this situation thst we would come very close to going under and not existing.
The fact thet someone, anyone, is willing to attempt to clean up the mess the club is in is, quite frankly, astonishing and shouldn't be overlooked.

Can’t believe THIS …. Sent my dad the SSN tweet and he came back and said “yeah I was talking to someone yesterday at my golf club and they said it’s close”.
The one time I could of been ITK and he didn’t even bother to tell me!!! 

That is the face of somebody who has finished the last strokes

https://www.dcfc.co.uk/news/2022/06/202223-season-derbys-league-one-fixtures-confirmed

If Ashley has got £50 million ready to go and if Ashley is so keen on sorting us out why hasn't he done it yet? Why does everyone involved in this process seem intent on sitting on their arse doing naff all and driving the entire fan base mad before actually doing something?

Is this where Ashley tries to get rid of the opposition before offering a lower figure down the line ?
He's a tough deal maker that's for sure although once he has the club, I do think he'll run it well
PS. He's getting the journalists to do his dirty work again

Is this where Ashley tries to get rid of the opposition before offering a lower figure down the line ?
He's a tough deal maker that's for sure although once he has the club, I do think he'll run it well
PS. He's getting the journalists to do his dirty work again

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So if we start next season in administration, we start with nil points deduction ?
Assuming we have a new owner during the season, the EFL apply a points deduction if the new owner doesn't meet the minimum requirements ?
Could be psychologically good if we don't actually start on -15 even if we eventually get it further down the line. Gives us chance to build up some sort of points tally I suppose. It would be so demoralising for the players to be starting out with a deficit

So if we start next season in administration, we start with nil points deduction ?
Assuming we have a new owner during the season, the EFL apply a points deduction if the new owner doesn't meet the minimum requirements ?
Could be psychologically good if we don't actually start on -15 even if we eventually get it further down the line. Gives us chance to build up some sort of points tally I suppose. It would be so demoralising for the players to be starting out with a deficit

So if we start next season in administration, we start with nil points deduction ?
Assuming we have a new owner during the season, the EFL apply a points deduction if the new owner doesn't meet the minimum requirements ?
Could be psychologically good if we don't actually start on -15 even if we eventually get it further down the line. Gives us chance to build up some sort of points tally I suppose. It would be so demoralising for the players to be starting out with a deficit

One things for sure, if the June wage bill is £ 1.6m, from July onwards it'll drop to less than £500k per month once the contracts expire
It might even drop lower still

Another 48 hour announcement approaching .......... until the fixtures are announced
Will we be included or not ??
 

Another 48 hour announcement approaching .......... until the fixtures are announced
Will we be included or not ??
 

Hope Tom's driving has improved 

Call me cynical but where was the EFL help a few months ago when we were still in a shout of being in the championship for next season?