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If they beat Forest they only need a draw against us if we lose at Swansea.

And breathe... for now.

All depends on how we do vs Swansea before we can say if Forest did us a favour or not.
As long as we equal Wednesday’s result, they’re down. If we lose to Swansea then it doesn’t matter if Wednesday draw with Forest, they’ll still be in a position where they have to beat us or they’re relegated.
The key to all this is making sure we approach games looking to actually win rather than hope other teams can carry on bailing us out.

All depends on how we do vs Swansea before we can say if Forest did us a favour or not.
As long as we equal Wednesday’s result, they’re down. If we lose to Swansea then it doesn’t matter if Wednesday draw with Forest, they’ll still be in a position where they have to beat us or they’re relegated.
The key to all this is making sure we approach games looking to actually win rather than hope other teams can carry on bailing us out.

I think we’ve been well below par for the majority of the season to say the least, and staying up would be incredibly lucky.
We’ve won what? 11 games this season? We went through our spell of 6 wins in 8, so that means in the other 36 games so far we’ve won 5 times. It simply is not good enough no matter where we finish.

Look at the Sheffield Wednesday and the Rotherham results.
We were all over Wednesday after beating Birmingham 4-0. If we got that first goal we’d like have gone on to win as SWFC crumble even more than we do, so they’d be down. Rotherham then beat us with a goal within the last 5 minutes or so, even if we held on, it pretty much keeps us up too.
On the flip side, if you remove our “unlikely” points such as wins vs Swansea, Norwich & Bournemouth, the point against Brentford etc. then we’d have been buried a while ago.

I think we’ve been well below par for the majority of the season to say the least, and staying up would be incredibly lucky.
We’ve won what? 11 games this season? We went through our spell of 6 wins in 8, so that means in the other 36 games so far we’ve won 5 times. It simply is not good enough no matter where we finish.

Yeah, fine margins. At times it's because we've lacked quality at vital moments, at times it's because we've set up wrong and only started trying to attack once already behind, giving the opposition chance to just get everyone behind the ball and hit us on the counter.
Waghorn getting sent off against Preston didn't help, although (despite the recent result) I still think Preston were there for the taking, and that they were pretty crap thsemelves in the 2 earlier matches against them.
The unlikely point against Brentford just serves to remind me of how Sibley's been mishandled - the fear of him giving away some free kicks and picking up a few cards vs the threat of him scoring a few goals if played centrally is a difficult balance to get right, but we've totally bloody fudged it IMO and ended up with the worst of both worlds.
That Brentford game showed me what we could do! It gave me a glimpse of what another manager might have seen from the off had he not been someone complicit in our failures up until that point.
We don't need to have been massively, significantly better under Rooney than we have been, it's just a couple of goals here and there and we'd be sitting here feeling a lot more relaxed about the whole thing.
I refuse to believe that 32 goals is the most anyone could have got from us.

I think we’ve been well below par for the majority of the season to say the least, and staying up would be incredibly lucky.
We’ve won what? 11 games this season? We went through our spell of 6 wins in 8, so that means in the other 36 games so far we’ve won 5 times. It simply is not good enough no matter where we finish.

I think we’ve been well below par for the majority of the season to say the least, and staying up would be incredibly lucky.
We’ve won what? 11 games this season? We went through our spell of 6 wins in 8, so that means in the other 36 games so far we’ve won 5 times. It simply is not good enough no matter where we finish.

Look at the Sheffield Wednesday and the Rotherham results.
We were all over Wednesday after beating Birmingham 4-0. If we got that first goal we’d like have gone on to win as SWFC crumble even more than we do, so they’d be down. Rotherham then beat us with a goal within the last 5 minutes or so, even if we held on, it pretty much keeps us up too.
On the flip side, if you remove our “unlikely” points such as wins vs Swansea, Norwich & Bournemouth, the point against Brentford etc. then we’d have been buried a while ago.

Look at the Sheffield Wednesday and the Rotherham results.
We were all over Wednesday after beating Birmingham 4-0. If we got that first goal we’d like have gone on to win as SWFC crumble even more than we do, so they’d be down. Rotherham then beat us with a goal within the last 5 minutes or so, even if we held on, it pretty much keeps us up too.
On the flip side, if you remove our “unlikely” points such as wins vs Swansea, Norwich & Bournemouth, the point against Brentford etc. then we’d have been buried a while ago.

Yeah there are positive and negative ways to look at it. To be honest it makes no difference if we finish 21st, 20th, 19th, wherever. Right now I'd much rather the teams we're coming up against have nothing to play for. That wouldn't have been the case for Birmingham tonight regardless, however the fact we can pull within 1 win of them must fire them up a bit more, surely?
Swansea are essentially playing for nothing other than being at home in the second-leg of the play-offs. But they are still the 4th best team in the league so far.
Sheffield Wednesday could have been relegated last night. They're still alive. They could be relegated on Saturday. If they're still alive, they'll have even more confidence. If they go in to the final day of the season still with the opportunity to stay up, then I really fear they will have more desire than we would be able to muster.

Yeah there are positive and negative ways to look at it. To be honest it makes no difference if we finish 21st, 20th, 19th, wherever. Right now I'd much rather the teams we're coming up against have nothing to play for. That wouldn't have been the case for Birmingham tonight regardless, however the fact we can pull within 1 win of them must fire them up a bit more, surely?
Swansea are essentially playing for nothing other than being at home in the second-leg of the play-offs. But they are still the 4th best team in the league so far.
Sheffield Wednesday could have been relegated last night. They're still alive. They could be relegated on Saturday. If they're still alive, they'll have even more confidence. If they go in to the final day of the season still with the opportunity to stay up, then I really fear they will have more desire than we would be able to muster.

I hope Leeds absolutely smash Liverpool.

Then we would have a situation that could be almost as worrying if that were the case.
It’s quite clear Morris is absolutely desperate to sell. The Club isn’t realistically going to progress in any significant way unless the Club is sold to the right person. We were told the Sheikh talks started around March last year. Alonso has reportedly been interested even before that. That’s well over a year so far, and we still have the same ownership and the same problems.
Two publicly failed takeover bids tells the world how desperate Morris is to get rid, and will sell to whoever can say they have the right funds. How much longer will we go on before we find someone who is genuinely interested with the financial means to support it? And what of the lost time we’ve experienced due to being involved in closing stages with parties who were never going to own the Club?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?

It’s mid-April and I’m fist-pumping over the fact Birmingham have scored a last minute winner over Rotherham. Can we go back to 2014 please?