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There's lots of information out there but here's a link to a reasonable article.
Just in respect of the batteries following an accident...basically insurance companies are being ultra cautious and instead of replacing individual cells which have been damaged in an RTC,they are replacing the whole lot which is unnecessary and expensive.There are companies out there that already repair damaged batteries.It will just take time for insurers to catch up.
Also you can't really compare EV batteries to mobile devices batteries,they are completely different.
https://www.evconnect.com/blog/how-long-does-an-electric-car-battery-last

Batteries are proving to be outlasting the rest of the car with very few failures being revealed.
Every EV comes with an 8 warranty at the very least but they are expected to last much,much longer than that.

There's loads out there,mini EV,fiat 500 EV,Mazda mx30,mg4,id3,cupra born....
All great small cars and reaching price parity new but especially 2nd hand with traditional ice cars.
The mg4,which is a superb car,is already cheaper new than a new ford focus or golf but is similar size and with a 7 year warranty against their paltry 3 years.
No brainer if you can charge at home (around 250 miles of range for £5 of electricity on the cheap tariff we have)
 

I wouldn't bet against him,I know I haven't got a space rocket program!

There's lots of information out there but here's a link to a reasonable article.
Just in respect of the batteries following an accident...basically insurance companies are being ultra cautious and instead of replacing individual cells which have been damaged in an RTC,they are replacing the whole lot which is unnecessary and expensive.There are companies out there that already repair damaged batteries.It will just take time for insurers to catch up.
Also you can't really compare EV batteries to mobile devices batteries,they are completely different.
https://www.evconnect.com/blog/how-long-does-an-electric-car-battery-last

Yeah, our thought it is to keep one of our two cars as petrol so we can do the occassional long run without having to charge and then have the other electric. Your point on driving experience is a very good one for two reasons - plug in hybrids are terrible in petrol mode (ours makes all sorts of noises unrelated to the speed of the car as it charges the battery to the needed level - not sure if it is the same on all plug ins but for the Volt you never actually 'use' the petrol engine to drive the car, the purpose of the engine is to then charge the battery - if that makes sense). Second point is that the drive experience of an electric car - torque, no gear change, response - knocks any petrol engine into a cocked hat.

Batteries are proving to be outlasting the rest of the car with very few failures being revealed.
Every EV comes with an 8 warranty at the very least but they are expected to last much,much longer than that.

Beating wolves 5 nil back in 2014...some stonking goals and my wife's family are all wolves fans and we're over that day for lunch which made it all the sweeter.
Gets overshadowed by our deforesting of the treetards that season but was on a par for me 

I've got a Chevrolet Volt - gives me about 35 miles of electric charge and then a petrol engine. Run it locally, largely, and ten years on two points to note:
- Currently tracking at about 96mpg, we use it for long trips but happily use only electric on most runs
- Ten years / 80k miles on I see very little fall off in the range or charging time. It might drop off to nothing one day soon but seen less to nothing worth writing home about to date
Definitely thinking about the BYD Atto for our next car, they get a bit beaten up for having a limited distributor network but if you live near one that becomes a moot point. I'm not too deflected by YouTube clickbait warriors, or about the reports that Tesla Cybertrucks are being withdrawn because the accelerator is sticking on many.

Tesla and Lexus are top when it comes to customer satisfaction in the luxury brand of cars. 
That’s an incredible achievement in a short space of time to be up there with Lexus.
One my neighbours just bought a Tesla she loves driving it, she is a driving instructor so loves driving cars.
https://insideevs.com/news/683064/tesla-lexus-top-customer-satisfaction-study/amp/

Beating wolves 5 nil back in 2014...some stonking goals and my wife's family are all wolves fans and we're over that day for lunch which made it all the sweeter.
Gets overshadowed by our deforesting of the treetards that season but was on a par for me 

1968 chelsea cup match.Who could forget  night matches at the Baseball ground, smoke swirling round from Leys. It was my first match, we won., loved the rams eversince.

We all know the legendary Derby games that will never be forgotten. Real Madrid, Deforestation, Leeds in the Play Offs, etc. 
But what are some of your favourite games that don't get talked about or remembered enough?
For me, beating United at Old Trafford in the cup under Lampard was unbelievable and doesn't get spoken about enough.

What really bugged me through the season wasn't so much the post-match comments but some of the tripe being spouted as soon as the starting eleven was announced. After a poor display it's totally understandable that there's going to be some flack flying around but instead of waiting to see the actual match outcome and then commenting, it was as though a handful of posters (and I'm sure most of us can guess who) were champing at the but to stick the knife in.
For now (apart from the occasional laughingi imoji) they've mostly gone silent and I for one am enjoying the peace and serenity that a successful promotion brings.

I've always believed in giving manager's time. The only manager I can recall actively calling for the removal of was Tommy Docherty. I agreed with the removal of both John Gregory and Phil Brown because the situation was desperate at the time, though I had sympathy for the latter because of the difficulties of working under that particular regime. I always thought that calls for Warne's sacking were shortsighted and that some posters went well beyond reasonable criticism, and I think I made my views pretty clear along the way. The proliferation of anti-Warne threads were spoiling the forum. Some posters seemed to be on personal missions to get the manager out, fortunately few of them were "regulars".
The only thing that really matters is that David Clowes stayed loyal to his man, a quality I greatly admire. There's always room to improve some aspect of performance, style and results, and I appreciated the contributions of those who have identified those aspects and put their arguments across thoughtfully. I'd like to think that within the management team those aspects have also been identified and will be addressed, budget permitting in some cases, but for now let's just enjoy stage one of "mission accomplished".

You’re correct, with my patient optimism I have always been right! And some people have also always been correct in their concerns. But mainly I was right 😉 
I think the door has swung both ways with the more vocal minority on either side of the argument quick to goad, dismiss, mock, label all season long. Looking at it objectively the following concerns have been raised, some of them are valid and some were clearly short sighted and spiteful, the evidence is there if you go looking from all sides. These are summarised/paraphrased points to try and capture all sides ;
- “Warne doesn’t have any pull” (disagree here as we’ve signed some effective players this season… and gambled with some injury prone ones)
- which brings me to point two, “he’s been operating with restrictions so we should be patient.” I always felt there was some logic to this and also agree with the points made that we still could have recruited better when you look at some of the other free agents signed up by our rivals. Overall the group we had were effective and got the job done, hindsight being the wonderful thing that it is I can’t help but wonder if we’d have won the league with a couple of different options.

- “he only signs old players/cloggers/former Rotherham players” biggest short sighted load of nonsense out of all the criticism for me and one point I’ve been at pains to counter for the last 2 seasons. It’s a generalised and ill informed view that ignores the restrictions at play and also the likes of Nyambe, Adams, Nelson, Wilson, Elder, Ward, TJJ, none of whom are ancient or cloggers or former Warne players.
- “players don’t want to play for him/he’s a glorified PE teacher/fitness coach” always felt this was unfair and it’s clear by the end of the season that this squad did want to play for him and he’s got a little more about him than some would credit. His man management seems to be a big strength and one people have been quick to dismiss, surely he deserves credit for getting the team over the line even if they are “the best players in the league” and he’s “just done what’s expected of him” 😉 
- “he’s tactically limited” this is one of the big ones and hard to fully pick apart without a good dialogue from all sides. Part of me agrees and sees it from the football purists point of view that we don’t typically control the ball and control games so see why folks have issues there. But also he has adapted all season, used different shapes, different combinations and still got the job done. It seems to be a case of pragmatism over style which then comes down to preference as many have expressed, it’s not for them that’s fair enough, and others (like myself) are happy seeing us score goals and win regardless of style (which is also fair enough). Though my biggest and remaining complaint with him will seemingly always be his timing of subs, a couple of times this season he’s nailed it (can’t remember specific games) but there have been others when a change was desperately needed and he’s done nowt….come on Paul, save my blood pressure next season please. It’ll be interesting to see how he adapts in the championship with Derby, but I think he’s earned that right.
- “the football is dire”, another difficult one to reconcile personally for me as I’ve enjoyed it but I get that people want more control in midfield, more passing etc so again it’s a complicated point to discuss with more nuance. Personally I’ve enjoyed winning lots, scoring plenty, improving away and ultimately going up automatically but it could have been smoother sailing for sure.
- “he doesn’t trust young players”, another of the biggies that so far seems to be evident and is more a wait and see thing for me. He definitely could/should have used the pizza cup to blood a few more youngsters this season then perhaps they’d have been ready to plug gaps when injury struck. However I also see Warne’s point about not throwing them in and “ruining them”, he’s essentially done the job this season but given the investment in the academy and his key it in theory will be to the clubs future this is one he must do better on.
- “his interviews are *insert positive/derogatory comment*” this is all down to personal preference, some like his interview style and some don’t, if that’s how you feel it doesn’t make you factually wrong it’s just an opinion. 
 
- “give him time”, seems so far to have been the right shout, earlier in the season understandably more and more people had concerns, I even had my own mini wobble, but essentially the patience appears to have paid off (for this season at least….what happens next we have to wait and see).
There may be other points but I’ve got to do the school run so feel free to pile on and tell me what I missed and where I’m wrong. My point here is that there are valid concerns all round, and plenty to discuss respectfully, we all want what’s best for the club. 

I think those comments came in the immediate aftermath of the defeat at Shrewsbury. Whilst the sentiments might have been valid at the time, the way some people expressed them were not. Perhaps a reason why we should all take a moment before posting after a disappointing defeat rather than ranting whilst emotions are high.

No names, but some of the comments in the "Warne Out Out" thread are just embarrassing.
 
 
 
 
 
 
That's just from the first couple of pages. No further comment from me required.

Ok to visit but I wouldn't want to live there....

Ok to visit but I wouldn't want to live there....

I think it comes under their ethos of not allowing themselves to get too high or too low.
They will feel vindicated having achieved promotion but will also want to prove they are more than League One experts.
So, whilst feeling mightily relieved I suspect it’s a case of preparing for next year and letting the players have their moment.
Also quite difficult hugging someone you know is on this summer’s kill list.

I'm sure it was. But my point is that even four weeks' away from automatic promotion, and folks still acting like idiots.
Well, no acting involved, really.

Agree with much you say. My dim distant memory of the Cox years was that Division 3, as it was in those days, was not as competitive as it is today. May be wrong! The other point I would make is once Cox’s teams got promoted e splashed the cash and it was obvious certain players disliked each other e.g. Gabiadini / Kitson. You do not find that in Warner’s team. Never seen a team spirit like it.

Just come back on to congratulate PW, records broken and another promotion on his already impressive CV. 

I will be disappearing again, although will keep an eye on transfer forum and don't worry @LeedsCityRam, our bet still stands and I will happily pay up if I lose.
It may have been a minority, however the constant sniping at everything PW did, took the enjoyment out of the forum for me, from hampering the academy, not having the ability to get players in, PW football etc...he only had to lose one game and they were endless and imo unsubstantiated. I do appreciate though, it's all about opinions, so fair enough.
I will come back though when he leads us to the PL 🥳

Without becoming all Kevin Keegan I have loved these last two seasons, really loved them - home and away.  I like our manager, his approach and his team and culture building, his improvement of players, his interviews and his ability to, on the outside at least, keep calm when all around him isn't; I have liked being a big fish, our away following, 3 o'clock kick offs, travelling knowing we can win every game (whether we will or not is another matter), different styles of play within games, a rock solid defence, record away wins, good goals and good football - the best GD in the league has counted for a lot and provided great entertainment and excitement, so too that automatic promotion went down to the last game.  I like our owner.
There was a time not so long ago that the second division was relatively equal competition wise (the best league in Europe) - parachute payments and the refusal of the EFL and PL to recognise and sort the problem out,  have ruined that, so too have Sky and the EFL ruined kick off times and therefore a significant part of the overall experience.  We are going to have to get used to losing more often, being outplayed more often, settling, initially at least, for mid table averageness, signing players that might find buying into the club culture that bit harder and, most of all, ignoring the 'noises off' - social media will, if this season is anything of an example, have the potential to become a toxic slurry at times.  Refereeing and officiating standards will continue to be low.
Despite all that I'm looking forward to it, just as I've looked forward to the start of every one of the last 61 seasons that I have been watching my team play live.  I know it's nearer the end of watching live than the beginning for me and I envy those of you that have longer to go; I wish that some of you had more patience and realised that teams of human beings take time to develop and isn't a precise science and that there will come a time when you too will be contemplating your last few seasons.  Make the most of it while you can. It's meant to be fun!