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Gross misconduct is being sacked for an offence seriously it requires an instant dismissal.
Lawrence and Bennett have not been found guilty of gross misconduct. Read the DCFC statement, doesn’t refer to those words. If it did they wouldn’t be employed at the club anymore.
Keogh is guilty of gross misconduct according to DCFC, hence he’s now unemployed (pending an appeal). 

In an effort to make it really clear for people but also stripping away any emotion from it. From a purely legal perspective...
Lawrence / Bennett: Personal gross misconduct but can still capably fulfil their professional contract.
Keogh: Personal gross misconduct that made him physically incapable of fulfilling his professional contract.

After about 6 years I am finally understanding this forum and possibly the wider general Rams fan.....why over 50% don’t seem capable of separating criminal law from (civil) contract law is beyond belief....even after it has been explained dozens of times on this thread! Although by pure definition, 49.9% of the population are of below average intelligence. 
It doesn’t matter who likes what player, us, Mel, PCoc, we the public will only know what the actual ‘gross misconduct’ is, if the details are released. We will only know if Mason and Tom could have been sacked if details of the internal report are released. I would suggest a law student, HR manager or anyone with an idea for business could garner (with the facts) whether the latter has any bearing on the former. 
 

this made me laugh more than it should of...
PCoc's Derby County

...and don't get me started on "could of..." or using a "zee" when the English word ends in "...ised"!  
 
You and me both, @R@M... You and me both!
 

Most Professional footballers contracts will have clauses excluding them from 'undertaking high risk sports' but I am not privy to the exact wording. Taking part in the activity, skiing for instance can lead to the individual receiving a disciplinary action. The company will first investigate and the investigating manager will decide if there is a case for a disciplinary to take place. The disciplinary manager (I've done both in my company) will then investigate and decide two things, 1) Whether they believe he is guilty or not and 2) The level of punishment. The most severe punishment is gross misconduct which leads to an instant dismissal. The player could appeal this. So Keogh has been found guilty of gross misconduct whilst the other two have been found guilty but punished as far as they can without sacking them for gross misconduct.  Hope this helps.

Your knowledge may well be of a higher grade, I only studied law for a year, this is however a civil matter and not a criminal one.
My point about your confusion was merely down to your statement that the whole world knows what the gross misconduct was. The all encompassing terminology refers to specific wording in the individuals contract. It could be that Keogh has it written into his contract he has to provide one manic stare per match and at least 10 ‘umms’ in the post match interview and did not fulfill this. My point being you cannot determine what the gross misconduct is without specific knowledge of the termination or contract. 
The clear criminal offences may not be determined to be gross misconduct, and/or there may be precedent already set by another employee of DCFC being convicted but not sacked. That would probably lead to an unfair dismissal case.

I think 90% of the people on this forum cannot understand gross negligence.  It will also be why the club will suffer another backlash publicly.  We've already seen comments from Arter and Hendrick who are in public profile positions criticizing. Good job they are not paying the 1.7 million from their own pocket.

The people on here banging on about consistency bothers me a little - unless they know all of the facts, in which case please let us know.
There are many factors which mean consistency is over ruled at many different levels.
My 6 month old dog shat on the kitchen floor and chewed through the phone cable the other day - got away with a mild ticking off, if my 12 year old dog had done it .....
My 18 year old took my car without asking, my 12 year old took my car without asking.
A murderer who shows remorse, pleads guilty and promises not to do it again tends to get a lighter sentence than someone who pleads not guilty, and swears that the DNA was planted, he wasn't there, it was his brother .... That is the rule of UK law, which has developed over 100's of years.
To me Lawrence and Bennett have both gone down the "we will take whatever punishment is thrown at us!" "we did wrong line". Whereas Alfie Keogh is in complete denial and will not even compromise with a pay cut while not being able to fulfill his duties.
If I had done what he has and my employer offered me a quarter of my wage to stay at home until retirement I would snatch their hands off. 
 
And then apologize for snatching their hands off.

I'll lead this in by stating again that I've always been a Keogh fan, love the guy and the thing I'm MOST gutted about over the whole incident is that we don't have him in our side
Anyone posted this link yet?
https://www.gov.uk/dismiss-staff/dismissals-on-capability-or-conduct-grounds
You can dismiss an employee if:
they’re incapable of doing their job to the required standard they’re capable, but unwilling to do their job properly they’ve committed some form of misconduct I'd say that top one is pretty clear cut? Never mind whether you think he's a 'good' player the very minimum standard for a footballer is that they are available for selection

All 3 cases different. We are not aware of the full facts of what happened the club probably are. We are not aware of the contractual obligations of the 3 . So it’s difficult for any of us to 2nd guess why and if or not they have been dealt with consistently . Not a lot can be said by the club until or if RK appeals . 
If it goes to court then we may find out why but I can’t see why the would sack RK without good reason and he had apparently been given the opportunity not to be sacked which he has declined .  Best wait for the facts before we all start making assumptions  
 
 

This sort of national treasure?

This sort of national treasure?

It may not be deemed an act of god. 
Negligence could be argued on multiple factors.
what was the weather report at the time of leaving? What was the state of the plane? Did the pilot have a commercial license and qualified to take passengers?
Negligence in law is defined as
 the defendant owed them a duty of care;  the defendant was in breach of that duty; the breach of duty caused damage and;
the damage was not too remote.
Clearly there could be a case. As the agent arranged the flight, and the agent was employed by Nantes, there could be 1,2 or 3 defendants. 
Put it like this, if you have agreed to buy something, and the company you are purchasing the product from are still moving the product around and they subsequently damage it, would you pay for it?

Jim Walker the forgotten man
As many of you know I have been for the last 18 months meeting up with the old brigade, the proper DCFC legends, the ones that put us on the map in footballing terms, the ones that made us the best team in England and got us to the European Cup semi finals, the teams of 71/72 and 74/75.
It started off as way to spend time with my Dad who was a bit lost after the loss of my mum, he is a season ticket holder now and was back in the day so I started off out on a journey that has lead us to meet most of them, one of them remains elusive and one didn’t wish to participate.
All of them have been fantastic, eager to tell stories of the great Brian Clough and the amazing fortunes of Derby County who in those bleak years of three day weeks, power blackouts, strikes and Rolls Royce nearly going under taking thousands of local jobs with it gave the people of Derby something to be proud of.
Upon meeting one of those legends, Jim Walker I was particularly struck by how at peace he was with the world, very relaxed, very friendly and by far the best story teller of them all.
Jim had not long ago lost his wife to illness so immediately him and my dad had something in common other than the love of football, he made us very welcome and gave us an open invite to go round when ever to continue with the tales.
Now most people may remember Jim as the guy who was signed by Clough & Taylor from non league football to play for Derby County and was a major part of the team that won promotion from division two in 1968/69.
He lost his place in the team to John Mcgovern but captained the reserves and stepped in when required to cover injuries of suspensions, this meant that he played only a few games in the 1971/72 season but it was his goal in a 1-0 win against Crystal Palace in late march that gave Derby both points and if you remember we won the league and finished first above dirty Leeds who were just one point behind and had a greater goal difference, so in effect Jim scored the goal that won us the First Division Championship.
Aswell as a footballer Jim is probably better known as the Aston Villa physio, he was there for around twenty years and served under many managers including Graham Taylor, Ron Atkinson, Brian Little and John Gregory, he was also the man charged with looking after Paul McGrath for many years both on and off the pitch and is spoken of in very high regard in Pauls autobiography.
He had a private practice at the Belfry for the golfers and was also the go to man at the NEC when any pop stars suffered an injury or needed attention from a physio, he worked with George Michael, Elton John, Neil Diamond, Michael Hutchence and Kylie to name a few hence him having so many fantastic stories.
Jim has also had illnesses this however does not dampen his spirit or take a smile from his face.
One thing that I was amazed to hear that Jim did not receive a medal for winning the league title despite being only one of sixteen players in that 71/72 season to have donned the shirt and scoring such a valuable goal.
When ever you see the pictures of the team celebrating and holding up their medals jim does not have one.
I approached Andy Ellis the club historian and the writer of many Derby County books and the fount of all knowledge and he confirmed it.
So we the approached the club and asked if they would support an application to Gordon Taylor of the PFA to ask if he would inturn support an application to the football league to present Jim with the medal that he should have received 46 years ago.
The club agreed and they sent the letter to Gordon Taylor who gave it his blessing and the approach was then made to the football league, this was back in February this year after the ball was started rolling in June of 2017 so it took a while.
I am delighted to say that the agreement was given and Derby County approached the very same jewellers who had made the original ones to make one for Jim, to the exact specifications of the original medals and in the same box and made from 9ct gold with all of the hall marks.
For some reason the club at this time can not be seen to publicly present Jim with the medal which is a great sadness as I thought that he was going to be able to step out on the pitch at Pride Park on the opening home game against Leeds (quite fitting as he stopped them winning the league with his goal), it is a litigious matter so I will comment no further other than to say that they did everything that they could.
So to wrap up the story I had the great honour of going to Jims house today with my dad and my son and presenting him with his long overdue medal, he had no idea that it was coming and to say that he was over whelmed is an understatement.
It was great to see his face and to have the privilege to do something like that, I had the medal at my house for a while but obviously didn’t want to post any pictures until now as it was a secret.
Not very often that you get to present a league championship winning medal on behalf of Derby County and to one of the few from those great days and can be called the legends.
We are hoping that Jim will still be able to have amore public presentation at sometime in the season at Pride Park when what ever issues are resolved.
Up the Rams !!
 

PGA Wentworth 
 

Old people out during rush hour. Go back to bed!!
 
And clogging up the shopping aisles at weekends and lunchtimes.

Old people out during rush hour. Go back to bed!!
 
And clogging up the shopping aisles at weekends and lunchtimes.

Old people out during rush hour. Go back to bed!!
 
And clogging up the shopping aisles at weekends and lunchtimes.

Old people out during rush hour. Go back to bed!!
 
And clogging up the shopping aisles at weekends and lunchtimes.