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https://footballleagueworld.co.uk/update-emerges-on-mike-ashleys-pursuit-of-Derby-county-amid-middlesbrough-dispute/
First article I have read disapproving of Boro's position. It's a start.
 

Do explain to us what is more complicated than the EFL wanting Boro & Wycombe's claims to be seen as 'football creditors' when there isn't any reason they should be.

Mike Ashley was at the training centre yesterday morning. 
 
I’d say if he’s serious in buying us he wants this sorting asap. Fingers crossed we hear some good news this week. 

yes it was reported in the Sun that Ashley and Gibson know each other. It's massive news, quite possible this could resolve it for us. I was worried Ashley might just move on thinking - this is all just too difficult.
Only question is, what then happens to Wycombe? Not such an issue I guess because much smaller. TBH I think Couhig is the one who has hatched this gruesome legal ruse and that if Gibbo settles, he will as well  
I just hope Gibbo's rug doesn't blow off when Ashley lands the chopper on his lawn. That would be a bad start to the summit

Incredible crowd noise - this is what it means to him to us fans - this is why this club has to be saved EFL

If Ashley is talking to Gibson it's likely to consist of 'drop your claim or I will sue the arse off you when I take over Derby'!

He doesn’t know what the claim is? 
This is getting ridiculous. 

So if Dick Parry says that they are simply upholding the EFL rules, where does it say that one club can sue another because they MIGHT have gained promotion if the other said club hadn’t broken the rules and the governing body didn’t react in time?
Its just madness it really is. 

I'm only just catching up with posts from yesterday, but where I believe the EFL are taking a pedantic and erroneous line is that they are effectively saying that these claims must be treated as debts owed to Football Creditors simply because the claimants are football clubs. This is patent nonsense, because they don't arise from any kind of transaction between DCFC and the Claimants. It's not what the Football Creditors rules were designed for. I imagine HMRC think this is bollo too. 
Bear in mind that every £ these two chancers are paid is a £ that genuine unsecured Creditors won't see. The EFL should not be placing them above genuine creditors. It's disgraceful. 

duck off Rick. 
If misleading information is getting out there, and it isn't helpful, put out a statement rectifying the incorrect or misleading information. 
The only leaks to the press seem to be coming from the EFL, which would mean the misleading information is coming from themselves.

Its shooting up rapidly. Over 9500 now
Love reading the comments underneath it as well. Nice to see support from fans of other clubs

Someone called Adam Boddington (very possibly on here) has created a petition asking for the Sports Minister to look at the situation between Derby, Middlesbrough and Wycombe. The EFL is mentioned in the petition title:
https://www.change.org/p/sports-minister-for-england-sports-minister-to-look-into-the-ongoing-situation-between-the-efl-Derby-county
Well done Adam for starting something off.

"It will be for the Admins to conduct any defence of any claims brought against #dcfc""
 
So why won't EFL let the Admins deal with the claim as they see fit? 

I did not believe in a witch hunt against us by the EFL at first.
However, this seems very suspicious that we now have a good chance to avoid relegation, we may have been very close to appointing preferred bidders and we were only just into January. Being so early in January with new owners we could get reinforcements and with Rooney’s contacts (players like Diallo in the Championship) all of a sudden us surviving became very real. Then all of a sudden the EFL slap this demand on us. Plus other clubs are annoyed we are rejecting pitiful bids.
I now think the EFL have a real dislike of Derby and want us to suffer. Whilst I do not think they will see us liquidated I do think they will have us as close to death as possible before they ‘help us’.

That's  a very good summary G Star of where EFL cannot respect the independence of other parties.

What makes it worse is that EFL is not itself independent. It represents the vested interests of other clubs. That's been shown yet again in the past week. Other clubs complaining that Derby have turned down bids from Millwall for Sibley. Other clubs ganging up and stopping us renewing  Jagielka's contract , who ends up going to Stoke instead. All agreed by an EFL Board with Boro and Forest members. Surely it must be blindingly obvious the glaring conflicts of interest here and the time is long overdue for an independent regulator, and for EFL to be abolished.   
 

Its not silly at all - its a very good point.
I can't imagine HMRC would be too impressed at being made to settle for a significantly reduced figure because the EFL were refusing to allow the club to be sold/come out of administration in contravention of insolvency law. If I were Quantuma, I'd be seeking an urgent meeting with HMRC to fully impart the latest situation & ask for their stance on it.

One can’t help feeling that HMRC ought to be having a word in the EFL’s ear. It’s the good old taxman (therefore society and we taxpayers)  who will suffer greatest in money terms if the EFL force us in to liquidation. 
 
Who is questioning the law givers in the EFL ? Who is scrutinising the neutrality of their committees? Who is driving their agenda ? I refuse to accept this is simply following a rule book. Who is making the judgments and what are their affiliations and self interest ? There is the putrid smell of a rotting kangaroo court in every utterance that comes from the EFL. 

Quantuma would expect the EFL to remain neutral, not use the claims as leverage against the club. They are essentially preventing the claims being dealt with in accordance with their own ducking rules!!!! 
Wake up!!!! 

Is this the governing body that in the last 2 years that has:-
(a) tried to overrule one of the worlds biggest commercial property valuers over their INDEPENDENT valuation of our stadium?
(b) tried to overrule a firm of INDEPENDENT auditors over their application of accounting/auditing standards when auditing our accounts?
(c) overruled an INDEPENDENT disciplinary commission who has ruled on our case?
(d) trying to override the advice of the insolvency practitioners handling our administration?
Lets be clear here, the EFL are not the reason why we ended up where we are, that falls at the feet of MM and SP.
However, do any of the above give you the impression that they are acting in the interests of us as one of their members?
Had they taken any note of a, b or c above, so just one out of 3 independent professionals we would most likely not be where we are now.
Even if they chose to ignore all 3 they could have quite easily hit us with a punishment of some sort and moved on.
But now it is blatantly obvious that they want more. Relegation or liquidation, I'm not sure which they crave and all because our once owner had the audacity to highlight what a poor job they are doing for their members.
Their current actions are literally putting the existence of our club in jeopardy and somehow you still seem to want to absolve them of any blame, its utterly bizarre.

I just want to recap this morning where we are based on what has been happening 
The Administrators have 3 viable offers to buy the club and repay real creditors some money owed, it is believed that Ashley made the biggest bid.
The administrators went to the EFL to announce the preferred bidder who was placing a non refundable deposit which pays the bills for the rest of the season 
The EFL have said what about Middlesbrough and Wycombe requests for their suggested potential claims which the administrators said there is no legal claim from them which the EFL knows and the EFL indicates they are football creditors for a claim of no legal standing.
The PB obviously isn’t going to stump up money for any claim that isn’t legal for whatever reason and neither are the administrators allowed to.
The EFL have said show us your money to the end of the season
The Administrators have said that obviously can’t happen because we are in administration 
The manager rightly wanted to extend a few contacts as we only have 8 players/ youngsters under contract past the end of the season and bring in some no fee loans or free transfers within the parameters of what we were allowed to do especially after letting two players leave which is now three players.
The EFL have said you have no money to finish the season so you are now under a complete transfer embargo.
The administrators inform the staff of the EFL stance and ask if any players who want to leave to speak to the them - Jagielka leaves a few days early and joins Stoke whilst we have very few others who can raise any substantial money and nowhere near enough to complete the season. All the players have had ample opportunity to be talking to other clubs about free summer moves anyway since January 1st as only 8 are under contract longer than that. So sales won’t see us through until the end of the season and then the PB won’t pay as much because they are only buying the club badge and no assets.
The administrators make a badly worded statement in my opinion that states that the EFL are acting in an illegal way and against their own rules by not sorting out any inter club dispute and request an urgent review of their standpoint.
The administrators said we have money to the end of January to pay the Bills so we have one game left at home today and one game away at notts forest. Following that we may well be liquidated and those creditors will get nothing.
All that is how it sits as of this morning and I have personal views but I have tried not to include those! 
 

Absolutely 100% spot on. They are NOT creditors. No contract no invoice no debt just a made up figure put in an email to the Club and copied to the EFL. What if their claim was 500m? Still just made up. 

You all know what........Our fight on the pitch has awoken real football fans....in fact on the pitch, Derby are the most exciting thing happening in the Championship, we are being lapped up by sky sports with the spirit we are showing and the miracle we could perform by staying up......and the clowns at the EFL are extinguishing it, they should be enhancing it, playing on it, promoting it even.......they are totally corrupt and the list of board members proves it

Why do you keep sticking up for the EFL ?? The admin are doing there jobs the EFL are moving the goalposts simple as that …it’s a disgrace so stop defending the EFL ffs