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Why not? He is still a Rams fan?

This will really help the team! ?Whilst there is any chance we can retain our championship place our priority on matchdays should be supporting the staff and players.
Keep your protests away from the football. 

When one player is asking for 500k a week which annually equates to the offers being made for the acquisition of our entire football club then you know things are just rotten to the core. 

I can’t be bothered to go today. Or anymore for that matter. Football is lost to me. 
We anxiously wait for some rich person to bail us out. These person/persons have a plan involving making money. But no interest in Derby. At least Mel had a dream. He followed it and so did we. We could have made it. But didn’t.
But make what exactly? Joining a league of Rich men’s playthings. 
 
Billionaires are queuing up to buy Chelsea. Sky are more interested in a subscription from someone in South Korea than a season ticket holder in Southampton.
It not our game anymore, where just there for the sound effects.
Football sucks.
 
 

Not sure I can do that BUT it is baffling that DCFC are not seen as an attractive buy even at £50m (if that includes the Stadium). Outside of the Prem, Derby are one of perhaps a dozen teams with real potential. From the dozen, DCFC are in the top 2-3 for income generation. Of course I'm biassed  but I really can't see how we are not an attractive proposition to bring out of Admin to someone who (whatever their reason) wants to own an English team. Considering an almost certain changed football finance landscape in terms of player wages and transfer fees, I almost feel that progress is achievable within our income....Difficult but possible.
If we were for sale "debt free" the cost of buying a Club like DCFC at the moment would likely not be massively different I suspect, so I am baffled...very baffled, but because of the above, and unless there is something that is completely left field that we are completely unaware of....it's hard to see what the blockage is.

Not sure I can do that BUT it is baffling that DCFC are not seen as an attractive buy even at £50m (if that includes the Stadium). Outside of the Prem, Derby are one of perhaps a dozen teams with real potential. From the dozen, DCFC are in the top 2-3 for income generation. Of course I'm biassed  but I really can't see how we are not an attractive proposition to bring out of Admin to someone who (whatever their reason) wants to own an English team. Considering an almost certain changed football finance landscape in terms of player wages and transfer fees, I almost feel that progress is achievable within our income....Difficult but possible.
If we were for sale "debt free" the cost of buying a Club like DCFC at the moment would likely not be massively different I suspect, so I am baffled...very baffled, but because of the above, and unless there is something that is completely left field that we are completely unaware of....it's hard to see what the blockage is.

Not sure I can do that BUT it is baffling that DCFC are not seen as an attractive buy even at £50m (if that includes the Stadium). Outside of the Prem, Derby are one of perhaps a dozen teams with real potential. From the dozen, DCFC are in the top 2-3 for income generation. Of course I'm biassed  but I really can't see how we are not an attractive proposition to bring out of Admin to someone who (whatever their reason) wants to own an English team. Considering an almost certain changed football finance landscape in terms of player wages and transfer fees, I almost feel that progress is achievable within our income....Difficult but possible.
If we were for sale "debt free" the cost of buying a Club like DCFC at the moment would likely not be massively different I suspect, so I am baffled...very baffled, but because of the above, and unless there is something that is completely left field that we are completely unaware of....it's hard to see what the blockage is.

Not sure I can do that BUT it is baffling that DCFC are not seen as an attractive buy even at £50m (if that includes the Stadium). Outside of the Prem, Derby are one of perhaps a dozen teams with real potential. From the dozen, DCFC are in the top 2-3 for income generation. Of course I'm biassed  but I really can't see how we are not an attractive proposition to bring out of Admin to someone who (whatever their reason) wants to own an English team. Considering an almost certain changed football finance landscape in terms of player wages and transfer fees, I almost feel that progress is achievable within our income....Difficult but possible.
If we were for sale "debt free" the cost of buying a Club like DCFC at the moment would likely not be massively different I suspect, so I am baffled...very baffled, but because of the above, and unless there is something that is completely left field that we are completely unaware of....it's hard to see what the blockage is.

Not sure I can do that BUT it is baffling that DCFC are not seen as an attractive buy even at £50m (if that includes the Stadium). Outside of the Prem, Derby are one of perhaps a dozen teams with real potential. From the dozen, DCFC are in the top 2-3 for income generation. Of course I'm biassed  but I really can't see how we are not an attractive proposition to bring out of Admin to someone who (whatever their reason) wants to own an English team. Considering an almost certain changed football finance landscape in terms of player wages and transfer fees, I almost feel that progress is achievable within our income....Difficult but possible.
If we were for sale "debt free" the cost of buying a Club like DCFC at the moment would likely not be massively different I suspect, so I am baffled...very baffled, but because of the above, and unless there is something that is completely left field that we are completely unaware of....it's hard to see what the blockage is.

Well said Ange. People are fuelling their own worst fears by…… well just making things up really. 

Well said Ange. People are fuelling their own worst fears by…… well just making things up really. 

David does a great job

I do think that the EFL need to look at their insolvency practices. It was widely felt that Leicester 'cheated' by going into administration, wiped out 75% of debts and carried on as before under very similar ownership. Understandably, the EFL brought in new rules to make administration a far less attractive option.
The points deductions, the imposed business plans, the withheld TV money and varying degrees of transfer embargo now ensure that no club can do a Leicester without suffering significant damage. That's supposed to be a deterrent to owners. Indeed, I suspect that, that deterrent has worked very well - clubs only go into administration now out of desperation. 
That's a problem though. The deterrent then squeezes the life out of a club who are already in trouble. The last few clubs have just about survived, with the exception of poor Bury. The difference is now though, HMRC have far more say and can't just be forced to settle for 25%. 
It is actually possible that this has made exiting administration next to impossible, given how damaging the EFL sanctions already are. 
Frustratingly, those deterrents don't actually hurt the guilty parties, the former owners, just the creditors, the fans and the perspective new owners.

To put that in perspective, Mowbray has been a manager 20 years, Rooney just over a year.
Rooney is still learning.
Also, Mowbray has a settled squad whereas Rooney has had vital players effectively given away.
Nobody in here hears the team talks and truly knows what he's trying to do tactically, so a lot of talk about tactics is guessing.
Similarly, we don't know if teenagers are just not sticking to task rather than being given the wrong ones.
Tactics rarely overcome a lack of talent or  a massive shortage of experience.
It's the latter that is really hamstringing Rooney.
At the moment and imho, Rooney isn't part of the problem. I doubt Cloughie could have done a better job of galvanising the club.

Whilst I fully understand that this is a complicated business negotiation that cant be done like buying a pack of crisps, whoever buys the club needs fans as a revenue stream whatever division we are in. CK seemed to get this. The decline in spirit from all connected to the club is noticeable. We need a lift. A PB announcement and big "I am here to save the club" type statement is sorely needed right now. 

Brilliant Post Alf.

Other than supporting on match days there's little to nothing else we can do, Supporters groups are treated as mushrooms, Fans are seen as cash cows, MPs release twitter feeds of no concequence.
The EFL haven't beaten us, They've certainly written our death throws, The nails in the Coffin were all lined up, Jagielka unable to re-sign, Shinnie moved on were 2 huge nails that were knocked into our Coffin.
I'm a realist with a little optimism thrown in, Until mathmatically impossible that we can't stay in the Championship then there's hope, I believe the EFL will have a party if we are relegated, It was their plan from the start, Parry, Birch et al have gone above and beyond in their efforts to put road blocks in our way, Once we were looking to make a fist of it things they seemed to have changed, Boro/Wycombe dragged on, Referees conspiracy I don't believe, EFL encouraging the Cheating Mantra imo has had the biggest effect on all in the Championship, We're the boogey man who lives under the bed, We're seen as a club that will get what they believe we deserve.
It rankles with me and has most of my adult life that oragisations will, Can and do have a very negative impact on peoples lives, Football for many 100s of 1000s of people is an escape from the humdrum of ordinary life...for what ever ordinary life is, There's no tub thumping from me, It's all been down to one person, That one person who gave Hope, Enjoyment, Excitement, Sadness and eventually Despair as this great club of ours is being lead away to the scaffold, Our only escape...24 points to be played for, Untill it's impossible to stay up...then there's hope.
COYR

Btw to those who say the club has no assets of value I would say any new owner would see the almost guaranteed income streams as the main asset. Yes this will go down for a period when we regroup in L1 but a long term view is that we will always generate good income flows in the Champ and at some stage we will return to the prem

Btw to those who say the club has no assets of value I would say any new owner would see the almost guaranteed income streams as the main asset. Yes this will go down for a period when we regroup in L1 but a long term view is that we will always generate good income flows in the Champ and at some stage we will return to the prem

Btw to those who say the club has no assets of value I would say any new owner would see the almost guaranteed income streams as the main asset. Yes this will go down for a period when we regroup in L1 but a long term view is that we will always generate good income flows in the Champ and at some stage we will return to the prem

Btw to those who say the club has no assets of value I would say any new owner would see the almost guaranteed income streams as the main asset. Yes this will go down for a period when we regroup in L1 but a long term view is that we will always generate good income flows in the Champ and at some stage we will return to the prem

If you can’t see that there is an agenda against DCFC after analysing our games this season then you are a naive simpleton. 
Give your head a wobble ! Wake up FFS ! We will be relegated , the EFL will make damn sure of it. 
We just have to hope we survive to fight back.
Duck all of them , EFL ,Boro , Wycombe, Forest ,Leeds,Villa , QPR , Stan Collymore , Billy Sharp , Charlie Austin, Adrian Durham ,Kenny Burns  ........
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The administrators should be saying 'hardly anything'. They  needed to stem the sneaky leaks that feed the clickbait and the negative agenda that's surrounded DCFC for over 2 years, inculcated by Gibson, the EFL and certain gobby media careerists.
They need a certain £££ amount to satisfy, HMRC, EFL and other creditors, in a clear format from bidders with no dodgy conditions or traps, to free Derby from administration in the best-case scenario of avoiding more points penalties.
The club was more valuable in December, when they first intended to name a PB - when the squad was stronger and now-departed players could have contributed to 'The Great Escape' or provided a better squad basis on which to build.
The EFL blocking this PB declaration (2 or 3 times) whilst the hidden agenda of assured relegation was being played out by the EFL & parasites, causing the desperate player exodus for cashflow, meant that Q has had to revalue and re-present their requirements to bidders several times - and casualties in the renewed bidding battle have occurred.
 

Wayne has said he is worried about the situation. I’m sure if he was to invest some of his £170 mill fortune in DCFC , others would follow. Then perhaps fans could have say a 25% stake in the club.Put in whatever you can afford.

Surely most buyers would know that our income streams are about to return to relative normality. At the moment supporters are fairly enthused. 18k season tickets is easily achievable and average gates in the region of 25k. In champ with Rooney both sponsorship and tv revenues will be healthy. Corporate revenues on the high side compared to most. We should be an attractive purchase and in many ways to bid at the level needed to clear the minimum debt to exit admin cleanly. It is not such a big stretch to say we could be only a few years away from the prem. look at Luton ffs.