Ramarena

Yes it was stupid and before this season I’ve not been a fan of his but I’m going to say here and now I will not get on his back for it , he’s won us lots of points this season , been full of passion for the shirt and the fans , massive pressure game big loud crowd ,,it happens , wish it hadn’t but it does , Tom L consider yourself forgiven for that mad moment by this fan at least??‍♂️

Indeed he’s also a kid in football terms.
Why doesnt rooney call out one of the big boys?

Give Sibley the armband!

Me every time I decide to just read the last page on this thread.

Had a similar response to my email to which I have responded as follows, with Margaret Beckett again CC'd:
Dear Mr Parry,
You infer that bar Derby County, every club in the country adheres to straight line amortisation policies – this is simply not true and it’s staggering that you would suggest as much. In 2015/16 Aston Villa were relegated from the Premier League, which allows a P & S loss of £105 million over three years, which then tapers down to £39 million over three years in the EFL Championship. It was therefore in Villa’s interests to put as many costs into their 2015/16 accounts to be absorbed by their Premier League P & S limit. Villa achieved this by charging an extra £79.6 million as a cost in the expense for impairment of the stadium and players (labelled ‘intangible assets’ in their accounts). No investigation was deemed necessary and no sanctions applied. There are too many other instances to list so I simply offer this particular one to illustrate that where the juggling of player values is concerned, there is one rule for Derby and another for everyone else.

If, as you claim, this amendment has been introduced ‘so there is no room for doubt’, does this not clearly infer there was doubt at the time the policy was in use? And given this has now been highlighted as a rather grey area, do you still maintain the sanctions applied are fair and fitting? Might I also ask what the EFL stance is on club’s selling their debts? Likewise, the pricing of players moving between clubs under the same ownership? The fact is that the EFL has spent over 2 years and no small amount of member club funds bringing Derby to task when a simple amendment, akin to that applied this week, could have been made as early as 2018 along with a request that Derby adopt a straight-line amortisation policy from thereon out.
It is also worth pointing out that the EFL, who claim to have ‘several accounts monitoring practices in place’ was made aware of the fact Derby County were using the ERV amortisation policy in 2018, yet chose not to bring this up with the club itself until 2020 by which time the relevant P & S period had closed. Had you not delayed the process until the 3-year period had elapsed, Derby would have been in a position to address the P & S threshold breaches through player sales or other means. Waiting until 2020, when the EFL was itself under threat of litigation from Middlesbrough FC, meant that Derby were not afforded any opportunity to bring either their accounting practices or their FFP overspend into line. With these facts in mind, I ask you again, do you still maintain the sanctions applied to Derby are fair and fitting?

Frankly, if the EFL is to retain even a shred of credibility, the sanctions applied to Derby County need to be reviewed immediately as the punishments far outweigh the ‘crime’. Failure to do so would result in the not unfair assumption that the current EFL board has brought the League into disrepute and that as such, those in question ought to be considering whether or not their positions remain tenable.
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The way I see it, this is absolutely NOT the time to be easing up on these clowns. Their actions this week yet again compromise the club's chances of survival in the Championship and as long as they continue to act in this fashion, we must keep boots firmly on their throats.
We fight to the end!
 
 

Those minutes make pretty depressing reading imo. 
Looks like we'll struggle to re-sign players or bring in free agents.
And EFL still trying to say the Middlesbrough claim isn't over until they hear about it or that it isn't what was holding up progress.
Given how snarky the tone of their answers are, I'd say there is little chance of them meeting us halfway on anything.

The logic is simple. Mel wanted to be able to spend as much as he could to make up for the disadvantage Derby had against clubs in receipt of parachute payments. There wasn't a rule which stated straight-line must be used, which is why the club chose to adopt a different policy, giving them a fair advantage over clubs choosing not to do the same.
When a club gets more from parachute payments in a single year than the record non-parachute revenue in the Championship, the system is clearly broken. It's only natural to see clubs without that unfair advantage seeking ways to increase their own spend to earn promotion. Hence, Derby, Reading, Sheffield Weds, Blackburn, Birmingham, and others selling stadiums and training grounds, Forest and Watford selling players at over inflated amounts to their parent clubs or getting players from them on the cheap.

It's probably better than looking out of his window and remembering he's in Middlesbrough...

Love the childish idea from Boro that Gibson is a flawless character standing up to Derby for Boro and the good of football generally. 

Why are you on here?

No answer then.  Just more vacuous self portraits of the family .  Ta Ta sweetie ?

He tried to extort money out of a club in administration. 

Can I ask when the bastion of football fairness will be taking action against Bournemouth for hammering FFP on their way up, taking 4 points off you.  Take them off Bournemouth and give them to you and your automatically promoted, no playoff lottery or anything.  I'll wait with interest.
 

Gibsons like the human equivalent of Japanese Knotweed 

I can't disagree with this statement as I can't prove otherwise, by the same token I'm not sure this is something you can prove either.
Having visited the Sheffield Wednesday forum there isn't a lot of love on there for Steve Gibson, I would image Liverpool fans would also not agree having been on the end of his legal action along with other clubs. There is also a small matter of the Man United fanbase that have been questioning the claims in their support for Wayne Rooney.
You can only base your views on what you see and hear, and right now Forest, Leeds and bizarrely Bristol City fans have been very vocal in their support of Steve Gibson, although this will be down to rivalry....except for Bristol City which is once again just bizarre.
I don't know the guy, won't claim to know his life story and the shenanigans he may have been in, but what he has done against this club is unforgivable. 
Make no mistake, he is not responsible for the position we are in, he has been responsible for prolonging the situation with his frivolous claims which let's be honest, the club were never the intended target in all this, it was Mel Morris.
Let's also not forget, nowhere would you find Boro fans complaining at the time in 18/19, Tony Pulis was the target of your frustrations and rightly so, only now that Gibson's claims became public are Boro fans out in force to support their owner, which is commendable. 
We have seen the benefits of a siege mentality ourselves recently, even clubs such as Leeds which we dislike with a passion, you have to applaud the way they defend their club and anyone connected.
End of the day, it's quite possible the club could have been sold long before we entered administration had we not had these claims over us, they have been the main stumbling block. That's 12 points back on the board, no Embargos and we could potentially be challenging the top 6 with you this season. 
I know Boro fans will argue justice has been served, especially if we go down, but relegation is not a punishment the EFL can just hand out.
If you want to hear tales of how great Steve is, what a gentleman and upstanding person in the community, you will not find that on here, so don't be shocked to read plenty of vitriol aimed towards Gibson and in our eyes it's fully deserved. Every single bit of it.

Taking local church sides to court, seemingly taking everyone to court...yeah!! thats great for the game...how about just realise that you're not good enough....simple as that....but lets look to take someone to court shall we....imagine if every best owner in the football world like Gibbon were to sue everyone for all and sundry.... what a state the game would be in??? Forget the football grounds lets get some turnstiles at the court houses so we can all get excited about who's getting promoted/relegated in a court room....pathetic mate!

Maybe people should read more and dig a little deeper, Jimmy Saville was once regarded as a national treasure.

After reading some of Parry's replies from a very well written message from David it's even more apparent now that Gibbon is a stain on the game we love!
Taking everyone to court, Suing everyone it seems , he really is no good to football whatsoever and to make it worse manipulates the so called governing body .....Its all about court hearings etc etc...This man should not be involved in the game we love....he is without doubt one of the most loathsome characters I've ever seen in football....and the game would be better off without him involved in it !!

Rick Parry
To: David Hinds >
06:48
Re: EFL's Statement 17/2/22
David
I could hardly disagree more,have another 3 point penalty for wasting my time.
Rick

How many games do you actually watch live to assess what Tom Lawrence is doing when he hasn't got the ball? 
I watch about 95% of them and your analysis of his play couldn't be further from the truth.

Lawrence does give 100%. He’s very hard working, and in fact always has been. His running stats have always been high. He tracks back and works hard for the team. His attitude seems off because of his body language, but for an attacking player his work rate can’t be questioned. Rooney would be delighted to keep him, as would I. 

The EFL agreed to our accounts and then unagreed them 3 years later...

The anger is good. We all need an outlet for anger and being at the match, cheering the Rams on from start to finish is what has personally kept me sane and given me hope.
The South Stand, South West Corner and the East Stand from half way to the away fans is sold out for Peterborough. I suspect this may well be the case for the rest of the season. People want to be part of the unbelievable support for Rooney and this bunch of honest, brave, and united bunch of lads giving their all for the cause.
Harness this anger, use it to roar the players on, give the EFL every bit of abuse they deserve but mainly, get behind every single player with everything you've got, every game.
COYR