Rammeister

I don’t know about anyone else but I’m truly sick of all this .
It can’t go on for much longer .
The EFL are playing with peoples lives in Derbyshire and beyond. 

Just time out to thank the Mods at this time. Cant imagine how difficult it must be to keep on top of the volume of posts also at a time when feelings are running high. Think we'd all be lost without this forum so thank you

It is an excellent explanation, and very plausible. Also supporting my view expressed a week or two ago after Kirchner dipped out that Morris still has significant influence over the process, although one or two posters disagreed strongly with this assertion. Thanks for posting @Carnero
#properduckjob

It’s people like you that have put the club in the dangerous financial position - millions of pounds in debt- that it finds itself in now.

Isn't the point being missed here. Neither Boro or Wycombe are creditors. They have made a claim nothing more. And the fact remains you can't be sued whilst in administration, so under adminstrative law, which takes president over the rules of two bob football league governing body, the Boro and Wycombe claims can't proceed until we are out of administration. The EFL are breaking the law by impeding the administrators.

Rooney was honest, he’s clearly fighting but tonight he sounded like he was just a little flat in his appeals for help. The spirit is still there, but everything he said in that interview was off field is out of his control and he/we need help; it just didn’t sound quite as bullish and defiant to me.
He deserves so much more, he’s working miracles to keep the belief there but I really do think he knows we are facing a stacked deck.

If nothing else the EFL has brought all Derby fans together. We may have disagreed about Morris but the way they are acting now seems little short of gangsterism: riding roughshod over law, due process and basic fairness. Given the importance of football to communities across the country, they really should be regulated. 

This club means so much to me I do anything to save Derby county and it is not doing me any good knowing we could go bust because selfish banker gibson wont see reason.

Obviously not sure how this will end up, but hopefully with the Government installing an independent regulator of Football, and the English Football League in general, and of course our Club surviving.
I have been more sympathetic than most to the EFL as to how they have behaved throughout this sorry story, as they have been more than less implementing the rules of the member clubs. Let’s, none of us, go back over all that again though. We are where we are, and that has all been debated and regurgitated to death.
Where I am now though is that the EFL has gone too far. When they made their decision on points deductions, embargoes, spending limits etc., that should have been the end of the matter. Middlesborough and Wycombe should have both been told the decision has been made, and no other actions by member clubs were allowed. They may actually have done that, but clearly they are still allowing those two tails to wag the dog, perhaps under some threat of counter claim otherwise against the EFL themselves. Who knows, but whatever it is it is clear that their rules are not fit for purpose. They certainly aren’t fit for Insolvency matters, because the EFL appear to be proposing that their member rules are superior to statute.
The next few days/weeks will be very interesting as to see what action might be taken against the EFL, by Administrators (under the power invested in them to complete their legal duties, rather than as Club representatives), by Creditors, by a preferred bidder, or even by a supporter/supporters group. Hopefully someone will fund an action through the Courts for injunctive relief to put a stop to the impasse. I wonder too whether Quantuma are now considering muddying the water further by making a claim against QPR, dragging them into the mix. After all any footballing claim for compensation does not have to be legally sound it seems to be heard, it just has to be within the scope of the EFL Rules (so no statute of limitations, etc). The EFL, and their interpretation of the rule book, are backing themselves into a corner on this, or being backed into a corner by Gibson in particular, and I think there is some advantage to us now, and football governance in general for the future, that there is little wriggle room for them left to manoeuvre without counter action by someone outside of the member Clubs. There is a significant amount of money at stake here, and I think shortly the EFL will have to blink when it goes to the next step. I think MSD might move first on this, for what worth.
I am resigned to tier 3 football next season, but I remain confident that there is a preferred bidder (hopefully Ashley who is a legal pit bull) who will save us from liquidation, and who will ultimately push us forward  in the right direction in the pyramid. What is important is that as part of the legal process against the EFL it has to be also made clear that any claims Boro and Wycombe want to make against the Club are made through the Courts not via a LAP arbitration. I am almost certain Gibson and Couhig would not try on their claim via a Court of Law, but what have they got to lose by going to a LAP? Vexatious, spineless Bamfords.

I cant to bear life with out Derby county not bear worth thinking about I will not having anything left to look forward too. Derby county is my life and I find things hard enough and will not forgive you efl and Gibson and wycombe owner thank a lot you bunch of bankers.
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Heartbreaking this is. Mel Morris, what have you done. I can’t put into words what this club means to me and all of us.  
 
I am just lost for words now. 

It’s people like you that have put the club in the dangerous financial position - millions of pounds in debt- that it finds itself in now.

It’s people like you that have put the club in the dangerous financial position - millions of pounds in debt- that it finds itself in now.

The EFL want Derby to die, and they are doing everything in their power to achieve that target.

I can.
I was gutted when Tim Ward was sacked, replaced by this inexperienced upstart from Hartlepools United.

Live update post EFL meeting
 

At this point I’d drive to Shirebrook myself to shake any part of Ashley’s anatomy of his choosing. If he was to buy and save our club.

At this point I’d drive to Shirebrook myself to shake any part of Ashley’s anatomy of his choosing. If he was to buy and save our club.

Isn't driving into Shirebrook alone showing enough passion, without having to shake anything ?

At this point I’d drive to Shirebrook myself to shake any part of Ashley’s anatomy of his choosing. If he was to buy and save our club.

At this point I’d drive to Shirebrook myself to shake any part of Ashley’s anatomy of his choosing. If he was to buy and save our club.

At this point I’d drive to Shirebrook myself to shake any part of Ashley’s anatomy of his choosing. If he was to buy and save our club.

At this point I’d drive to Shirebrook myself to shake any part of Ashley’s anatomy of his choosing. If he was to buy and save our club.